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If they think that the squad is good enough to compete in the Premiership, you would think that message would be coming from the manager as well. Hughes doesnt strike me as the kind of guy who would bite his tongue if he thought that the squad was rubbish. When he first arrived he said he was impressed with the quality in the club. I wouldnt be at all surprised to only see the signing of a couple of players this summer. But then a lot depends on who they are prepared to let go, which would be dependent of the size of the bid and the club making that bid. The upside of having such a poor season is that the big clubs arent queuing up to pinch our players this summer. Who would anyone half decent want? Lemina, Bertrand and Soares? That's probably about it at the moment. At best I would expect a possible replacement for Austin up front, a winger and a defender.

You have a mate? Singular I note. Do you wear matching Pepe t-shirts? Not for the first time you duck the issue and go off at an irrelevant tangent as a smokescreen. Just so as we are clear, you constantly support far right extremists and alt right mouthpieces on here. You use an avatar which has been appropriated by the alt right, clearly not ironically given your posting history. We can all see where you are coming from so why try and keep up the pretence?

How many sex offenders do you know? How many feel shame about what they have done? Whether these vile scumbags feel shame or not really isnt the issue. They have been banged up and will be on the sex offenders list for most of the rest of their lives and that is the main thing. You are grouping people together. You are making an issue about Muslims when it is a tiny minority that have been involved in these particular cases and, as you are well aware, sex offenders come in all shapes, sizes, colours, creeds etc. I am pretty sure that you know nothing about their local communities and whether they feel shame or not. Likewise their loved one, relatives etc. These people have had their mug shots plastered all of the media and they have given the likes of you more ammunition to fire at Muslims and immigrants. I would imagine that most right minded people living in their communities and not involved in these rings were horrified when the news broke, but then that is me making an assumption just as you assume that the Muslim community are ok with these crimes. There may well be a rise of racists in Europe but that is different to Europe being over run by racists. And just this morning I read that the NHS are asking to relax the immigration targets because they are struggling to recruit. So you see, immigration is an important to both the workforce and the economy and without it, Europe would struggle. I know this is not good news to the Yaxley-Lennons of this world, but you guys will just have to suck it up.

The swastika is an ancient religious icon that was also appropriated by the far right. We pretty much know where people are coming from when they use it themselves nowadays. As far your political leanings, given that you constantly support far right extremists and alt-right agitators on here, the fact that you are using an image appropriated by the alt-right pretty much nails you to their cause.

That's a no then is it Shylock? This is a very disappointing put down by someone with such a long and illustrious history of slagging off fellow posters. Foolish of me to think that anyone else is allowed to have a pop at other posters too. Carry on pal.

I dont feel "smug and good about how morally superior" I am to every one else - just those, like you who either are extremists or support extremists. Following your ridiculous quote that "socialism is dangerous" you have gone on to support the likes of Trump, Yaxley-Lennon, Katie Hopkins, Rees-Mogg, Johnson etc. What do they have in common? Yes, they are all very right of centre so let's not pretend that you have any kind of balance here with anything left of centre. The reason we assume that your (strange) use of Pepe the Frog as your avatar has anything to do with anything other than the alt-right is based on your many, many posts slagging the left and supporting the (often) far right. You are a long busted flush. As for this summit being a success and making the world a safer place? Really? Let's just see what actually happens apart from two extremists soaking up plenty of self publicity and not actually committing to anything concrete. Is that grey enough for you Pepe?

After Duckhunters rant against the late Butch Wilkins for drink driving can we expect the same level of outrage against one of our own players for also doing something stupid behind the wheel?

Do you remember when you were on here everyday telling us that Pelle was rubbish?

No surprise to see you supporting him. Oh, and yes, he is as appalling as "some" (most of the right minded eastern and western world) have made out.

As are some posters on this forum.

But that simply isnt true. There are other types of grooming gangs and, of course, plenty of people who act on their own and religion does not come into it. As for the shame comment, you know this to be true in every case? That is a pretty big generalisation, as are you comments about Europeans and their views. You say that they are deliberately "praying" on another ethnicity - maybe they are just easy and available prey? But it really doesnt matter because what this is about is rape and sexual assault. It is not about the men being Muslim (not all of them are anyway) and the white girls being "trash." Sadly there are men still who see women as second class citizens and these come from all backgrounds. Of course you can say native Europeans if you want. You seem to feel the need to group certain types of people together to make your point and using the phrase "native Europeans" sounds like a phrase that Tommy would use to differentiate the guys in the white hats from the guys in the black hats. I have travelled around Europe a bit in the last few years and I dont see what you seem to see. Fortunately the racists are still in the minority and are seen as being a moronic throwback to darker times. People like me are still in the majority no matter what you would like to believe as is evident by the way that people like Yaxley-Lennon are viewed.

Jewish grooming gangs? So are we to assume that these are not grooming gangs but Muslim grooming gangs? This would make their actions somehow linked to the religion would it not? I am sure you can tell us where in the Koran it says that men shall group together for the purpose of grooming and having sex with young girls. As for Yaxley-Lennon and his politics and the attempts by some on here to water them down. Anyone who wants to exclude people from this country on the basis of their religion or ethnicity and anyone who seeks to stop them building places of worship for their own religious beliefs is clearly pretty far along the right wing spectrum. Anyone who sets up something called the English Defence League is pretty far along the right wing spectrum. I dont know whether he is a Nazi, a neo Nazi or just another rabid far right agitator, but it is very plain to anyone that the bloke is extreme in his views. As for the use of the phrase, "Native European citizens", I think you have just given yourself away mate. When you say "people like you" I assume you mean people who are anti White Supremacists?

But according to you though they don’t exist on here? Despite the obvious support from some for that clear racist Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. And let’s not forget that “socialism is dangerous” eh?

My dear Duckster, I couldn't care less what you called Ali and it has nothing whatsoever to do with this bloke. If he were to call himself Tina or Jane or Mary it makes no difference because he will still be a far right racist agitator (sorry to use an "ist" hypo, but that is what he is despite you trying to find an acceptable side to his beliefs). What does confuse me is why you are so hung up on what he or others call him and you dont seem remotely bothered by his politics and beliefs. I know that you are still stuck in a pot cloud from the 60s but the world has moved on somewhat. We dont make shows like Love Thy Neighbour anymore, people like Stephen Tommy Robinson Yaxley-Lennon are, thankfully, in the minority and their views are seen as abhorrent to most normal people. Oh, and hypo, I really don't have issues with people with different views. I do have issues with people who have issues with those of different race or religion and more so with those who pretend that they don't, but clearly do.

So his attempt at illegal entry into another country makes him a "naughty boy" whereas if Muslims do it they are criminals? I see. This is for Lord Duckhunter - he was born Stephen Christopher Yaxley. He then went on to acquire his step- father's name and became Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon. He names uses the name "Tommy Robinson" and has also used the names "Andrew McMaster" and "Paul Harris." Which name would you prefer I use when addressing him? He does seem to have a lot of names doesnt he? As for you hypo, I clearly dont mention you in every post, but I do in some. The reason being that you finally outed yourself as an alt right supporter. Your early responses in the terrorist thread hinted as such but it is good to see you have finally nailed your colours to the mast and we can now lump you together with the likes of Sour Mash, Batman and Orange. At least with those three they dont pretend to be something they are not. It is good to see you finally embrace your inner far rightness after all of that earlier pretence. Let's not pretend that "Tommy" has been misunderstood and is only against the extreme elements amongst Muslims and other immigrants. He has clearly come out against all Muslims migrating to this country and wants to stop the building of Mosques. As before, you will be able to find something in most extremist's repertoire that many reasonable people will be able to agree with, but if something looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it is probably is a duck. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon is clearly a dyed in the wool racist/Islamaphobe and he is not a naughty boy, he is a convicted criminal.

Convictions for violence are convictions for violence and you conveniently ignore his convictions for violence at football matches. No one said he goes round beating up grannies. How many ordinary working class lads as you call them give themselves double barrelled names are start right wing groups such as the English Defence League? I dont like because of his beliefs and his actions - nothing to do with being any kind of "class." Just how far right do you have to be before you become a proper Islamaphobe or racist? I dont agree with you that Yaxley-Lennon echoes the thoughts of a majority of "ordinary European citizens" and it is quite obvious that you are in a minority according to the polls. It is odd how supporters of extreme views kid themselves that they are in the majority when groups like the BNP and the EDL are clearly fringe groups and are supported by the few remaining Neanderthals. Plenty of people have criticised the more unsavoury aspects of that religion without breaking the law or using violence. You and hypo both clearly support this bloke but try and pretend that you aren't as bad as he is by saying that you dont agree with a lot of what he has done. It doesnt work like that. As soon as you voice any kind of support for people like this you are saying it is ok. It is not ok. There is no acceptable face of racism or hatred of people who are different. I will give you a clue - ENGLISH Defence League.

Stephen Yaxley-Lennon has used several different names. Which one would you prefer I use?

He may be many thinks but Stephen Yaxley- Lennon is certainly not an “ordinary working class lad.” Nice of you to gloss over his convictions for violence. As for his imprisonment, he was warned that he would go to jail and put himself in that position again. His own fault, not a conspiracy against him. And I think any right thinking person would have a problem with any extremist threatening lives of others, it doesn’t make your “Tommy” some kind of messiah. By his own actions the bloke is quite clearly a racist bigot and is supported by racist bigots. Please let’s nit pretend that the EDL and the BNP are some kind of liberal do gooders. You only need to look at the knuckle draggers who pitched up at Downing Street in support of their “Tommy” to see where it is at.

Yes. Yes. There is a big difference between someone's perception of what could happen and what actually does happen. Do you have any hard evidence that no one was prosecuted through fear of being accused of racism? Yes I did watch the drama. I seem to recall that there were bigger concerns about the victims being credible witnesses than about the religion of the alleged perpetrators. My personal experience with the CPS is not at all irrelevant. I clearly have a lot more knowledge of the Criminal Justice System and how it works than you do. Given that you believe you have more knowledge about the (lack of) equality of pay with women than a lady on here because you work with a few women I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you know more about the CJS than I do. Where do I ever deny that there are or have been problems. There were clearly cock ups but there are huge differences to people not doing their jobs properly and systematic bling eye turning to criminal activities because of race. I can tell you 100% that if cases are brought before the CPS and they are not charged when they should be, the sh*t hits the fan big time. The same happens with the police. Records are kept and everyone with their name on these allegations is held accountable when the system fails - which it does occasionally as no system is perfect. Your avatar gives you away more so than your support on the Terrorist thread for other racists on here, far right mouthpiece Katie Hopkins, Boris Johnson, Jacob Rees-Mogg and your support here for the well know far right agitator Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. You know full well that Pepe Le Frog has been appropriated by the alt right. So then, just to spell it out for you - mistakes have been made in these cases but offenders are now behind bars and other alleged offenders are being prosecuted for similar crimes. I have yet to see anyone brought to book for the perversion of justice by refusing to prosecute a case for fear of upsetting anyone due to their race or religion. If you had any working knowledge of the CJS whatsoever you would know that it is much more serious to ignore alleged crimes than it is to upset someone over racial issues. Cases are dropped if it is either not in the public interest to prosecute or if it is believed that there is no probability of a successful prosecution. No rape case, be it by a footballer or by gangs of men, will be dropped because it is not in the public interest to prosecute. Cases will be dropped if it is felt that the evidence does not hold up in court. If you were paying attention to the BBC drama you will know that there were big problems with prosecution which was down to the victims themselves. Go back through any court records you like over the years and you will find plenty of successful prosecutions against offenders who happened to be Muslim (or any other religion you care to mention). Just ask yourself why your favourite football hooligan isnt carrying out his personal crusade against those in "our" church who have been carrying out similar offences against children for years. I'll help you out here Pepe, it is because they are not Muslims.

Strangely enough the jury in his trial came to the same conclusion, as did many people commenting about the case on here. His efforts to go to appeal fell on deaf ears for various reasons and he served his sentence for rape. Granted he was finally acquitted of the charge of rape, although many people still found his behaviour that night to be reprehensible - unlike people like you, who seem to think that it is a normal night out to have sex with women you have never met before you walked into their room and so drunk they can barely stand up and have no recollection of what happen to them the next day. No doubt you (and your mate hypo) will also be astonished to hear that murder, gbh, rape, serious sexual assault - in fact any crimes committed in this country, are not somehow worse if committed by Muslims or immigrants. I know, it is staggering isnt it? A black guy threatening a white guy with a knife is no different to a white guy threatening a black guy with a knife. Jeez. Another fact that will no doubt freak you and hypo out - during the 8 years I worked for the CPS in the SE Area, not once was a case dropped if it met the criteria for going to trial for fear that it might upset someone somewhere because it involved Muslims or immigrants. Bizarre eh? People committing crimes, being charged and going to court no matter what religion, skin colour, sexual orientation, creed etc. etc. In fact, in the many many meetings I sat in, not once was any of these factors mentioned as being of any relevance. People were charged and tried according to the crimes they were alleged to have committed. All this and without Tommy's help too.

Same for me. I started in 65/66 too and the season we came runners up to Liverpool was the best by a long way. Happy days!

Along with the countless number of sexual abuse cases carried out by members of the Christian clergy or millions of sexual assaults committed by humans against other humans over the centuries I’m sure you would agree. Unless you just have an issue against Muslims of course.

You really aren’t the full ticket are you?

Nail on head. Sadly though his supporters try to make him out as a hero standing up for free speech. He was warned if he did this again he would be jailed. Not exactly rocket science. As for his views, I expect that Hitler said the occasional thing that was worthy of serious attention too. Farage can occasionally sound plausible but it doesnt change their fundamental beliefs and for those these people are rightly castigated. The people who stand up for Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon, Andrew McMaster, Paul Harris or whatever name he goes by now are the ones that share his opinions. Try and sugar coat it all you like hypo but you are cut from the same cloth. Your comments such as "thank God my wife isnt a Muslim" and "socialism is dangerous" together with your defence of Katie Hopkins are there as testament to your beliefs. By the way hypo, I am sure that you know that Yaxley-Lennon took the name "Tommy Robinson" from a football thug when he set up the English Defence League, an organisation from which that I am sure you will find a number of things to sympathise with. Carry on supporting alt right thugs and slagging off liberal newspapers hypo, you are doing a fine job of showing yourself in your true colours.

I like his new single (do they call them that these days?) and I bought a couple of Oasis albums in the 90s. His voice sounded rubbish though, no matter how old you are.