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Someone made the point today that the same people who would be horrified if Trump became headmaster of their child’s school voted to have him as head of state.

It is not a question of feeling superior. It is a question of seeing many appallingly bad leaders doing appallingly bad things to other people through history and seeing people like Trump repeat the process. But it’s not difficult to feel superior to a convicted rapist, racist, misogynist, congenital liar and grifter. There is a reason so many people in this country and around the world hate him, not just me. And as someone who has read your pony over the years, I can tell you that the people you idolise politically tend to be self serving, morally deficient a-holes.

I listened to PMQs today and thought that Starmer played a blinder against Badenoch. Granted, it is her first time but if she doesn’t change her approach she will continue to come across as a 6th form debater. I met some friends for lunch and walked in on the conversation to hear one of them say how good it was to hear someone stick it to Starmer and how well she thought Badenoch had performed. The person she was talking to thought the exact opposite and, like me, thought that Starmer had made her look poor and exposed her inexperience. Not only did she get her facts wrong, she also accused Starmer of script reading, some that he pointed out that she was doing herself. She also accused him of not reading his own Budget but made a gaff that showed that she hadn’t read it properly herself. Little wonder that the country/world is so polarised if you can come away with such a different viewpoint having heard exactly the same thing.

I wouldn’t say that I was either “shocked” or “surprised” at the result. More deeply disappointed that so many people care so little about what kind of person they vote for and don’t look further than the empty, button pushing rhetoric. Trump does not care about the American people. He cares only about himself. We had a similar experience with Johnson - God forbid that that grifter will also feel to push for power again himself when Badenoch fails.

Vance baited Trump. Remind me again who the VP is?

People close to Trump have been just as unflattering about him as Lammy was. Trump will always align himself with those who suit his needs at the time. Your point about Brexit is spot on. By getting our country back we have left ourselves further exposed to an ever changing and dangerous world. Those who hang on Farage’s every word need to understand that we are not the world power we once were. We need Europe more than they need us.

Under orders from Harris? 🙄 A lot of people would like to see Trump gone, not just a couple of fruitcakes.

Taking the high ground clearly hasn’t worked for the Democrats but let’s hope they don’t do down the road of fighting fire with fire and find their own “Trump” candidate in future. Harris won’t claim that the election has been stolen or encourage her supporters to storm Capitol Hill but as Trump has shown, playing to the lowest common denominator and ignoring rules and decency don’t preclude you from appealing to millions of voters.

Popped the cork on the champagne yet? The man should be behind bars. Lammy is right about Trump but we aren’t the only country who are going to have to suck it up. Have you read A Handmaid’s Tale?

When a dyed in the wool conspiracy theorist starts talking about FACTS! You know it is tin foil hat time.

Tears being shed all around the world. But still, you are ok. The most powerful man in the western world is a conspiracy theorist. You clearly don’t seem to understand why so many people are upset about this result. It will have serious ramifications for so many people outside of the US, but hey, we are the utter loony morons. As has been said so many times before, you have zero self awareness.

A better option than Trump.

The Palestinians can wave goodbye to the West Bank now that Trump is back in power.

Never doubt the ability of large swathes of the human race to shoot itself in its collective foot. Full on Darwinism. The Americans get what they deserve. It is the Ukrainians and the rest of us I feel sorry for. There will be plenty of parties in state rooms in Russia, China and North Korea tonight. Harris was an awful candidate? Dear God. What on earth makes Trump a better one?

It looks like Lebanon is going the way of Gaza. https://today.lorientlejour.com/article/1434395/over-40000-housing-units-destroyed-in-37-devastated-southern-lebanese-villages.html

Indeed! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdxvnk10xz2o.amp

Streeting has made it clear that the NHS needs to be reformed. I believe that he is putting a cross party committee together to look at it and come up with a 10 year plan. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-issues-rallying-cry-to-the-nation-to-help-fix-nhs

Here is one for you nic, given that you believe that there isn’t any difference between the candidates for the next POTUS. On a phone-in on the radio today, a caller said when given the choice between voting for a rapist and voting for a non rapist, she would vote for the non rapist every time. So there, you have your difference.

That I don’t know, but I wish we had more genuinely funny posters here now.

This is what millions of Americans will be voting for… https://www.nj.com/politics/2024/11/why-did-donald-trump-simulate-oral-sex-with-his-microphone-at-milwaukee-rally.html?outputType=amp

Any news about View From The Top? I know he didn’t post for a while then reappeared but he seems to have stopped posting again

What on earth is Patel doing back at the Foreign Office (shadow)? I know that there is a much smaller and, in terms of talent, greatly depleted pool to fish in, but really? For all of his talk about uniting the party I can see Jenrick and his dented ego being a constant irritant for Badenoch. Trott, just why? How far have the Conservative Party sunk?

When Pap was banned he set up his own forum - Sotonians - and a number of posters joined him there. Frank’s Cousin posted there for years under the name of Map of Tasmania. Not sure if he posts there anymore though. Bearsy posted on Sotonians too but again, I don’t think he posts there anymore. Goatboy is another who defected to Sotonians. Dune posted on the UI under another name until he got banned.

Let us hope there are enough sane voters to keep him out of the White House.

Didn’t you say that the membership wouldn’t vote for her due to the colour of her skin a while back?