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Are you? You seem to have decided that Pardew was the wrong manager for us and get behind Cortses at every opportunity. I would say that you have a closed mind.

I did not say that did I? As for Jones, he Baird and Bale were a big loss to the club when they left. You are being plain silly about MLT. Don't you agree that McMemeny would have taken a slagging in the 70s for those 3 years in the 2nd division? We dont even give managers 3 games now let alone 3 seasons.

The new comedy means not having to be funny. COuld add The Mighty Boosch too.

If that is true doesn't it ring any alarm bells with you? Perhaps that is normal for people who spend long periods submerged underwater but where I come from it spells personality disorder.

If there had been an Internet forum in the 60s and 70s I am sure that they would have been given the treatment. McMemeny certainly after relegation and taking 3 years to get us back up.

Really? I don't think it is too much to expect Mr Cortese to get the same treatment that Lowe, Wilde and Crouch did. If what I hear about Mr Cortese is true (and go and read Up and Aways account of his behaviour) then we need to be worried and asking the same questions that were asked of the others.

If what you say is true Up And Away, the man needs help. Those are not the actions of a rational human being, they are those of someone with huge issues. I am serious.

Twisting facts is weird either way surely?

The double standards on here are laughable. If Lowe had been involved in the debacle over the last couple of weeks ther would have been a meltdown, but because it is Cortese and he saved us from oblivion apparently, we have to support him 100%. We are fed story that Pardew did something so bad that he had to go. Not sure what the other two did, were they holding down Fonte's missus? It seems to be accepted (by those who didn't rate Pardew) that Cortese had every reason to sack Pardew (and 2 others). Even though they don't know the reason. Here is another possibility. The club start with minus 10. They have a poor start. They pick up, win a cup and have a great run which takes then one place off the play offs. Everything is set for a push for promotion the next season but the CEO hs the hump because he spent £3m and wanted promotion this season (despite a 5 year plan). He gets the ar*e with the manager an wants him out but can't sack him because club legends get behind the manager. He seethes and bides his time. Owner dies. Cortese has more power. There is a fall out between Reed and the Manager who wants to bring in his own players and is fed up with having to run everything through a 4 man committee. Cortese uses it as a reason to sack the manager and 2 of his coaches (it looks better that way). Smokescreens are set up about Pardew and another player's wife and a brawl to make CEO look like he has done the right thing. Maybe complete bull but just as possible as anything else "out there."

In which case I hope you enjoy it!

But if it is, what do you think about that?

Apparently he was interviewed for the job earlier in the week. Accoding to the Echo it was offered to him.

If what Wharton says is true it doesn't show SFC in a good light.

Never seen such a tragedy like that unfold before my eyes. You can't imagine what those poor people went through that were on the upper floors and couldn't escape. Then to see the buildings collapse. Unreal.

I was sitting in an office at Canary Wharf watching it on TV. Then the lights went out and the alarms went off. False alarm but never been so scared in my life!

Manager sacked. Lost the two following matches. Manager appointed - no he wasn't, another offered the job - turned it down - still hoping the other bloke will be the manager but he won't resign - we won't pay compensation - impass - Cortese is now born-again and the fans love him. Doubt if we are favourites to go up now. Apart from that, very little.

How many facts get debated on here? 90% of it is supposition.

Yep

I see "Arry gave Adkins a "Big Up" in an article about the England job the other day. I would be interested to know whether Howe was offered the job first then Adkins or the other way around. Not an ideal situation but hopefully it will get sorted next week and we can work at getting back on track.

Go have a chat with MLT and FB and see if they are welcome.

I am certainly not ITK. I have neve meet Cortese. I have meet a lady whose son works at SFC and doesn't have a good word to say for him. I have read stuff from people I trust that worries me. I think he has made a number of poor and ill-informed decisions. I don't like the way that he dealt with the Pardew situation either last season or this. He may not like the media but the way he has dealt with them thus far has been naive and unhelpful for SFC (and remember, it is not all about him). In 10 years time we may well look back and say he was the best thing to happen to this club since Ted Bates and Lawrie McMenemy. All I am saying is that was a lot of unfounded optimism around the Wilde Bunch and the same with this guy. I understand that a lot of people are prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt at the moment. I still think there is some doubt.

Ane the same thing happened with other CEOs but for some reason it is called into question if you point a finger at Cortese?

Converesly how many people make up facts to support various people at Saints?

What do we really know about Mr Cortese? That he was liked by Markus, that he didn't get on with Pardew, that he hates the media, that he has made some poor decisions, that he is not popular with some staff at the club, that he has banned some famous names from the club... Not a great 1st year to be honest. Hopefully things will improve as he gains more experience but please, all this fireproof stuff becaus ehe apparently single handedly saved the club from extinction has got to stop. Anyone at the club making decsion that affect its performance and future is up for having his or her actions discussed on here. It was the case for Lowe, Wilde and Crouch and it is the case for Cortese. He sacked a perfectly good manager after a 4-0 win. Saying !It had to be done" isn't going to placate a lot of people who have seen for a long time that there was no live between them. It may be a one off, but if he is going to be hard to work for it will be another period of revolving doors and no stability or growth.

Careful Steve, Mr Cortese is above critisisim dontcha know?