OldNick

i dont recall the howlers in the Brentford game, i do recall a couple in his early days and others spread around the seasons. To expect a keeper in the 3rd /2nd/1st tier of football never to make a mistake , to command a penalty area etc etc is fanciful. I watched Evertons Howard let a goal in last night that if it had been KD many would have said he should have stopped it. Shilton is probably the best keeper I have seen play for us, and he was useless at taking crosses and never saved penalties, his distribution was questionable as well, but one thing is for certain he saved us a lot more points than he lost us. The top PL keepers have fantastic defences in front of them and so dont get the pressure the weaker teams do. It is a team package, but KD is looking his age and has lost something.

I am not defending KD for this season as i have stated that he does not seem to be up to it. The sad thing is that there have always been some fans on here sitting in the shadows waiting to pull the knife. They kept quiet as he made match winning performances but waiting to pounce as soon as this dip in form came. i dont think many of them have ever kicked a ball, or if so never played any sport to a decent level because if they had they would realise the jump in standard by even a league is immense. I see a poster on here trying to say that KD should have saved RVP first.' if only he had moved his knee a bit it would have been saved' Lol I watched the great Pat jennings and he was a boyhood hero, he would come out and catch the ball one handed, but that was when the balls were leather and heavy and didnt do much in the air, nowadays the ball moves around and so it is hard to dominate the areas. I had said that KD be given his chance as he had done so much for the club and should be given the respect he deserves, it has not panned out well and so if NA decides to change him then I will not complain. Craig Gordon is the new Blayney,Smith, Wright,Moss etc etc who were the next kings who could easily replace Niemi/KD over the years, where are they now. Finally if KD had left 2 seasons ago IMO we would not now be in the PL.

ive seen some nonsense on here but this post is in the top 2. KD has been voted the top keeper by his piers for the last 2 seasons, it is sad tha5t such a great loyal servant is being treated with so little respect by 'fans'

you were wrong then, but at this moment in time KD does not seem up to it this season

I was not at the game but Morgan looked to be loping around and did not seem at all aggresive in his tackling before the first goal

i thought it was a great jesture by those 2 and I wouldnt criticise the fans for applauding and showing their respect back.

i noticed that in the post match interviews that NA has mentioned him learning as well. The decision to take off our best players against Man u may be the watershed, I suspect the players would have lost a bit of confidence in him then

I have supported KD in the past but this season he seems to have a complex that he is not good enough. He seems to have lost the spark that made him so good in the past. I said he should be given his chance for all e has done for us, but he may need to be rested. To be fair though, apart from Clyne the whole defence is poor. As for Fox!!!!!

yeah but 20,000 of them were at Lords, it was a 3 o'clock kick off on a saturday afternoon when they are normally servicing their mother and sisters, it wasn't live on Sky and the distance they have to travel

He is such a miracle worker he hasn't had a job in years lol. His status and experience would never let a 3 goal lead slip against a division 1 team, or against Man u in 45 minutes...........oh

the lad on the bottom right corner has the PL badge on his shirt, I think they are not easy to get

it just shows that when PFC are gone for good that the Skates children, grand children and great grandchildren will be saints fans. of course some will be ingrained to hate us , but much like before the 70's fans from both clubs did not hesitate going to support their local neighbours. It seems sensible but with football rivalry nothing is sensible

Thanks I did not see that. As you are aware i feel the Fl will do anything to keep them alive . PFC and the administrators seem to be living of this for sometime. The FL etc have been helping them time and again I feel they may change the rules to help.it seems the threat of liquidation send tremors through the league and so they move their position to stop it happening.

100% I dont wish for Adkins to be sacked but if he carries on doing the most ridiculous and reckless substituions of our best players with 15minutes to go he deserves to lose his job. That decicion has already cost us at least 1 precious point this season.

The FL holding things up, it wouldn't be that BC is demanding the -10 be quashed I presume

well she has no integrity as if she really believed it was wrong, she should have blown the whistle

The accept and move on, was regarding the apology from the Sun, not the tragedy. My wording obviously made that unclear. I have every sympathy for the innocent victims and it makes me sad to see children as young as 5 died. They were not drunk and urinating on policemen but excited going to a football match. The same could be said for the victims of Hysel who i never seem to hear about from the Liverpool people. The cover up is extraordinary but Iam not totally surprised and would expect many more events have been covered up under all political parties over the years. The Iraq war and Dr David kellys death has always seemed strange and unusual. Let the top brass of the Police who covered this up, as well as the top men of the Police federation get prosecuted. Who by now would be living their dotage on big pensions.

seems the FL did indeed bend over to save them again

It is disgraceful how the Police have covered this up, but also pretty sad that the whole force is being tarred with the same brush by many. On the day, I suspect there were many who did above their call of duty. The Sun did apologise, we should accept it and move on. I do not feel all the Liverpool fans were above blame, the gates were opened and there were many outside without tickets, how many pushed in without thought we will never know. The sad thing is that decent football fans who got in to the ground died needlessly, let us hope that the people responsible do get their day in court.

I assume the 2-3m they had in the bank a few weeks ago, is still paying the wages etc

Ive just noticed that there have been over 4,770000 views on this thread. To put into context how much the had cheated/taken /lost in their reckless spend it would be about £6 a click(or view) they have taken from the revenue and about £30 a click (view)to all other debtors (£150M) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i would agree if the carpet and fitters arrived late but the invoice!!!! Probably a small business and peoples livelihoods involved. Cashflow is very important. The company are at fault by not issuing the invoice but staff can be useless at times. They need a rocket.

Did you hear those Crawley fans having a go at the ref and the Pompey bench? Things like 'you lot should have gone pop years ago', 'dont worry you'll be out of a job by the end of the season' etc etc

that's a really good example to compare lol

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