OldNick

but how is that having a go at the fans? I dont see that as not respecting the fans, but as Im not a vitriolic against RL then so may the reason for that. Factually he is right though, but I am 100% sure he was not out to insult the good people who marched.It would be counter productive and he is too intelligent to do so. Just seen the goals again on Sky and the Swansea first goal looks to me thaty AL did not track the run of the scorer,He didnt seem match fit yesterday.

Thats true but he never commands a game. I dont want to be down on him but he needs to learn how to boss a game if he is to go to the next level.

The refs are less tolerant now.Terry Paine would have been sent off loads of times as he always went in with his studs up,Big Ron left Jackie charlton a quivvering wreck and as for the great JMcG ....

Not chuffed but realistic.I may add that Rudi was not a LB. When it was posted he was last season under GB, fans brought up interviews about him never playing there. The team has unity, having someone sulking in the dressing room is divisive.He has put in a transfer request, he needs to go and so let him.Im not happy but perhaps we can use the money saved elsewhere.

IMO AS was the weak link in midfield yesterday.He looked better when he switched to left back.

I think i must have worded my post badly, I agree with you.

Whatever, this forum is about opinions, but I respect your decision.We have had too many disagreements to let it fester again.Thanks for your help

The fans YET again were supportive, and Wotte complimented them for it, even ITV said the same.

So because the Swansea manager complained about our will to win aggression.We whined about Derby doing the same a couple of seasons back.I was brought up watching the Alehouse team and heard Shankley whining about us.We try and play the beautiful game the club gets knocked and then the old fashioned up and at them (Killers input??) and that is not good enough.

Jason can you put up a transcript of his inverview because it was not how i took it.I was pleasnly surprised that the march came over so well and they werent used as performing monkeys, by getting them to sing OWTS etc.

Was the march about RL not investing/getting investment in the club?

I dont wish you to take that the wrong way either. Well you are wrong there.There is no definative proof about PA not being there.I will believe people that I have talked with and even your mate LC admits the same.I was not wrong about the Corbetts they were shareholders and so had inputs in many of the decisions that have gone wrong in the last 20 years.In fact FF version that he was told was different than MC's own nephews when he posted here last season.I took FF version of course but that means we have to question the nephews which again is not fair. I dont attack fans, please tell me who?I disagree with some of their views but dont attack fans. I wonder when you are going to have the temerity to come back and make a formal apoloogy to the fans in your support of the Wilde bunch.A person of your standing in fans groups putting your weight behind their bid would have made a impact with some. who would think you were well placed to make a judgement.Sadly you made an error but have yet to apologise for being so forceful in a decision that has cost us dearly.

What nonsense.The players were showing desire and passion something fans have wished for.The players were up for it.The Molyneux sending off was due to stupidity.Wotton would not be drawn in his interview but the players were not happy with him for that tackle.

LC took over and appointed G&D I see your point

Im fine with that Alps, if you give someone a chance to before making judgements. Im in the same camp, I am not at al impressed but his first few interviews and the teams desire has heartened me.For the first time in a few weeks i feel we can survive.

he was expected to have a medical at a foreign team, I expect he was atr game saying farewwells and getting last bits tied up here

His girlfriend was expecting their first child and so perhaps that is why he was not there.

He has to be careful, but at least the oppostion know they are not going to have the freedom of the pitch.AS needs some of that to go to the next level.

I am pleasantly surprised, you are ging to support the manager.

I must have misunderstood the tone of your post UM.Im pleased that you will like myself will give him a bit of time.We are both sceptical but he was not making the poor tactical decisions Jan did and so we hope he will do enough.His interviews have impressed me, and the players showed unity yesterday andas i posted the other day, the mood inthe camp was good and they were talking tatics something that apparently didnt go on before

not the most cultured or skillful of players but he added a bite and desire that has been missing for so long.Given an extended run in the side and he will become a fans hero. Swansea were not allowed to play fancy dan stuff and he was also a minder for some of our lads.MY MotM

To be fair he was correct about last season.He woould be loyal to RL who has given him the job. The wording was not meant to be offensive to the fans(E£nglish is not his first language and his interpretation is not what ours may be) because if you listened to his interview after the game he praised the fans. Ump Im surprised you are trying to undermine him so quickly, i like yourself are not overewhelmed by him but he has already changed some things and the fight fire and desire are there. Give him 3 more games to give him a little slack.I understand you associate him with Lowe but dont be fooled by LC's cosying up to some on here.

Mixed feelings about it.The fans in general were normal football fans not the I want to get on the telly lot that these things normally bring out .LC using as a party political broadcast, and I saw Perry mcmillan at the front.I was told he doesnt go to games (apologies if my info is wrong) Wotte was correct in respect that RL was not at the club last year and we were alos in a terrible position.It was not aimed at the fans who were fantastic at the game and the only swing Lowe song was drowned out.And the normal fans starting them up ddint try so well done those.After the game fine in my book.

or its cat and mouse games to get Swansea to give a better offer.

Um you know my position on Jan and RL's ,mistake not ridding us of him earlier.NP may have done a better job,we will never know for sure.You and i have no access to detailed accounts of costs and where the money is being lost and so we are judgeing without knowing many of the full facts that have brought us to this position. NP would have been a better option from where we are standing and I do appreciate all the other factors, but without the facts we can only guess.the same goes for the banks, we as a nation dont know what is stored up until they come clean and tell us their toxic debt. Perhaps it is best we know neither.