OldNick

I think a lot of what you say is valid.Without a doubt had we stayed in the PL this would not be an issue now, but s### happens and for a lot of reasons we went down, some due to him. he was ousted by the Wilde bunch when he was struggling to cut the costs of a PL club that had built up its structure after 27years in the top league.You cannot do that immediately as we could have gone straight back up. Allegedly when he was ousted there was £m's in our account and then the new lot who followed (it doesnt matter who ) then were reckless. Football first was the cry and i recall many saying 'lets go for it and worry later' wellwe lost the shirt off our backs due to spinning the roulette wheel and now RL has returned and getting the blame all over.Yes he made a big mistake in my eyes by keeping Jan too long and I worry that Wotte will not make things better, but the people who went in the past have a lot to answer for as well

but you have jumped to a conclusion, we have no proof it is the same poster.I dont believe it is him/her. I know its not Flashman as i was on the end of a lot of his posts and Nineteen Canteen is not him. SB could not hold back from being abusive. Nineteen to me seems a fan who is pro RL in respect of the way he is trying to keep us out of administration and by being supportive he is immediately castigated.I myself think hisd posts are informing and very intelligent and put many of our posts to shame. If he was pro LC he would be welcomed as a long lost brother, but as he is saying thngs that many dont like he is cast as a villain.I want him to become a member on here and submit more as he3 engages some good debate.That makes the site healthier in the long term.if we awere all anti Lowes and pro LC's it would be boring as hell.

Was he a Nicholl signing? I thought Branfoot got him.I never rated him

I didnt hear the interview but did catch a snippet, her faith is still in Fulthorpe and Cousins.People snipe at me because i questioned her judgement, lol. They have been sitting on the sidelines and done nothing when they could have acted in december or before so they could have effected things for us earlier.Morph came on and alluded to they were waiting for the experiment to be a total failure before making their move. Well if their motives are so cynical they will be no better either. Was she asked about her role in the PA saga and whether she flew to a friend who knew him to try and resurrect the deal (as per her nephew) or that she saw him at a wedding (as per her conversation with Duncan) MC is obviously a lovely person and very well meaning being a fan but she seems too naive to me dealing with that lot of snakes at the top.Is she friends with Askham or Wiseman who also have their part to play in our demise.Read the Richards article that was put up on here the other day and that was a reeal eyeopener to the goings on by many different parties who are honoured to be directors etc

some have just been waiting for a chnace to criticise the player who above all has been doing his best to try and help get us results. He is as proud of his position at our club as anyone who is said to be a fan as well, and then he is the brunt of this type of post. There is a proportion of fans on here who want players to fail just so they can somehow think they are a good judge, sad but true. DT is the only one on here who has been consistant ll along in his criticism of KD and so I can accept his moaning as for the other fickle bunch....

what a bunch of fans some of you are.

that the ref had forgottten they had a divine right to win

thats the one, some of our fans thought it was below us to go in to the lower leagues for him at the time

Its not over til its over, but i do understand your position and perhaps dont want to think you are right

Exactly what i thought as well

In our history NO, in our recent history...not sure as it will not mean relegation for certain, so NO

Jason yes it has been said that LC was going to close the corners and stop the free buses.As a man who plays to the crowd, would he though???

Chris Nicholl was cursed by following LM, had he been appointed after Branfoot he would have been manager for years.I played tennis with him and am told he is now playing the professional veterans tennis circuit. At the time there were fans saying he was buying for division2 , especially when he bought the full back Gerry ???? We had been used to KK ,Channon and Balls and didnt like not having the big name signings.Shows the fans dont chnge.

Not outspoken, easy natured Lol. I was not fooled by the Wilde bunch, I was on the former forums debating with FF , Ump Alps, and many more saying to them to watch out for the carpet baggers and not to fall into the trap of 'anyone but Lowe.' If you really believe that football and business is not connected then you are 1 sucker and no doubt would fall for time share sellers,cold callers telling you have won free holidays and Nigerian bankers who need a short term loan.(I dont believe you are ) Football is a business, it has been for generations.SFC was a cosy gentlemans club 30years ago and it now is just more open with it now. You, like myself and Jonah and FF ,Ump etc love the club.We are all fools because we feel that in some way are attached to it like a family member.If it was called McDonalds FC we would at this time (Last 3years) now be supporting BurgerKing Fc as the quality had dropped and the service poor. In my 40 years of going to saints (started when i was 8-9 years old) I have spent too much of my life fretting about us.At Shirley school the teachers used my love of football and saints to punish me if my work was not up to scratch or i had wronged, by stoppoing me playing or getting my parents to stop me goingto an evening match to do homework.i have nights awake worrying that we were going down from the PL or reliving the Tranmere game over in my head after losing a 3 goal lead for days afterwards,being upset as another hero had left the club and what finally woke me up to the idiocy of my passion when a tv remote control went smashing against the lounge wall after Bolton scored a last minute equaliser. This stupid loyalty and feeling an affinity to it and many other things made me an easy target for the business side of the club. 'Dad can I have a pair of jeans?' 'No I'm not paying that, its a rip off, they are £30' then 10 minutes later 'dad can I have a saints shirt? 'Yeah heres the £35 .' I hope you can see where Im coming from, we are being played and have ALWAYS been whoever is in charge. We are suckers fools, idoiots and salesmens dreams as we we would never ask for a dicount as the money is going to 'our club' I want them all gone, the WHOLE lot as they do not deserve the fans we have.

can anyone tell me what the bloke behind is doing to the 1 standing on the right?Whatever it is he seems to be enjoying it.father and son go to game.

you are being hard on yourself Alpine. Comparing yourself to some week-old cow pat, you are fresher than that

I dont think RL is following anyones plan except his own.If not why would some want LC back. I fully understand the logic and need to try the youth, but Jan made the mistake of youth only and a rigid formation. i was not pro NP but I was happy for him to stay because the fans were behind him.To me they gave him an easy ride compared to others, as if any other manger had taken us so close to relegation after taking the club from mid table they would be baying for his head.That said NP is doing a very good job and i will say better than I thought he would.

I suspect because their chairman doesnt need to sell, that they like many other players are far too good for L1 but not quite up to it in the CCC .Howard did do well for Derby for a short period.

Witty?? Intelligent yes but I dont think you can throw that at him.

who's that then and what does the banner look like?

Will that mean we might be favourites for the johnson paint trophy?

there were a lot who put we would be relegated by christmas, well that was wrong.I hope they are wrong at the end of the season as well

i've just had a text from my contact at leicester and he reliably tells me MM is picking the team

Im just a luv jason. I thought the last march was done with dignity and much to my surprise it wasn't hijacked by the fools. SRS 's idea I dont see the point of. you may as well organise the 2nd one to start at SMS at 2.50 and then march away. I try to think positives about our club and as a respect lady fan I spoke to at the Swansea game said 'there is no point unless we have a viable alternative'. That is what is so confusing for fans like myself who are not rabid anti RL, I can see why he made the cuts but am not for jans tenure and Wotte is too soon to judge.Is LC suitable? His actions seem to me as rabble rousing and whilst i can see he is well meaning I dont think he is any better than we have. At present we are still afloat and still able to get out of the position we are in, it is whether we as a club have the guts to get out of it.

I think Branfoot was not welcomed.