OldNick

I dont think that the majority of fans think the club ios being run badly at the moment, it is just who it is being run by.

When RL was not there and many joined the Pied Piper and his bunch the fans were united but then they moaned about the manager. A football club will never be united as there are too many differing views on all things.

Why should council tax go up by inflation? It is a case that if it is known that there is going to be rises in budget each year then there is no need to watch costs. It is very much in the top peoples interest that their budgets g o up, as they get rewarded more for having that extra responsibility. It is a bad system, the top brass should get an increase if they save not spend more.

Well as I am not part of local government I dont have self interest in my views. I see local government as a most wasteful exercise and see people retiring early with index linked pensions , whilst hardworking people have to work on later and not have those perks. My friend who put some computer systems in councils (it was some years agol) call them gloried file carriers. There seemed to be a culture of sickies and lack of motivation.if the councils were started all over and worked as a proper business venture it would cost us all as tax payers a lot less.

That is of course valid in some cases. I believe everyone earning more than me should pay higher taxes, and all those on my income and lower have theirs cut.

I thank you for your trouble, my original post was to a post later in this thread. i didnt trawl through all the earlier stuff as I only arrived back from my holiday in Florida where I was mixing with those capitalist Americans.

I see your post and why would the council tax not be able to be frozen.The councils would have to cut their cloth accordingly just like all people in the business world. The councils would have to take a proper look at waste and make plans neccessary.

Thankyou for pointing out my typing error. Perhaps that could be seen as contempt, or patronizing, arrogant and condescending. You see it is all how you wish to dress it up. Fans asked that if RL came back he should be quiet, I believe he has done so , but everytime he does make a statement fans paw over it to find a bit they can be outraged about. His opinion is that it is a vocal minority who are causing unrest ( I believe your quote to that is wrong as I doubt he would say a 'silent vocal minority' as that is impossible] It is fair to point out about the former regime, afterall the political parties have done so for ever and a day. I just want things to settle and that the club gets a breathing space and the politics become secondary.

that is fair, but at the time again the medical people told us he would be ok.We only have so much to sprinkle on the squad, but I do agree we have needed a big ugly c/b since MS first got injured.That is the main reason we got relegated as we never properly replaced Killer

you still havent answered why it is flawed to freeze council tax

Please tell me how you are being held in contempot by RL? Has he said anything at all disrespectful to the fans since he has returned....Not in my opinion, but please let me know what he has if so

you are probably right but when the new board took over they were faced with the loss making situation , surely it was sense to reason that why pay out money we didnt have when we had a player who would play.

I think the official line is that he is on gardening leave. Im trying to find out why. Grainger will take over I suspect. That is what was to happen if Webster had gone in the summer. As for asking for compensation I was not surprised. If Ipswich wanted him badly they would surely have paid a bit for him, would we expect a player to go for nothing if he was wanted and under contract? I think also Webster had a spat with Magilton when he came to SMS and that was to do with the way it was handled.

the LibLab pact has raised its head again LOL

Liberals not able to take a joke, surely not

oh I see.

to freeze council tax is flawed, why is that? We as a nation when things have settled need a politician strong enough to grasp the nettle and get the country out of relying on credit.We need tight control on personal lending and get people to act responsibly with their spending.

I cant recall anybody knicking any of the Liberals ideas, as I dont see many people wearing cycle clips by law or that children should be whispered to and never a loud voice be heard.

Well, if you're happy to pay the same as you did when we were in the Premiership to watch youngsters that you could have seen for free last season, then fair enough. [end quote] So when Channon or MLT or all the other youngsters came through you said the same. Come on Wes surely you appreciate the quality of their football, it is just the failure to shoot is the problem.This team should have had another 10 points if they had been clinical and so with a bit of time we will get there. I didnt think the cost of going to games was the same as when we were in the PL. It is a lot cheaper for me nowadays.

RESCUE you are having a laugh.LS posted an email from MW to somebody and in it it mentioned the excesses that took place under him. Forget not his denial that we had sold up the Walcot deal etc earlier.He is not without blame.

well if he has supported the club for 57 years he has seen a lot worse than has been served up this season.

Im not sure of the timescale but I thought the deal for Rasiak was finalised after RL left.

Behave Wes, its good to have new members and so keep your charm offensive back for a while. I of course accept his views and am glad to have another sensible poster on the site.

you are kidding ,shes lovely and a shame that she is not available

Yes, as I suspect a large percentage of the left dont want to give up such things either. Now the extreme Tory right may have a bigger percentage, Ill give you that.