OldNick

Not all are on high appearance money, that is where the conflict is

Well thats risky not having any subs but you are a football guru

I see what you are saying but why do you question DMG's integrity.You are saying he's lying that is not fair unless you have other information. We moan if the players/club say nothing and then rubbish the club when they do.

Ron stated that he heard that RL does indeed send down a squadlist for Jan to pick from. The list contains the players we can afford as a club to turn out on any one given match. As it seems the clubs breakeven figure is 17k and we are now getting 14k the chairman (whatever hes called) draws up a list that would give jan choice but also one the club can afford ie after appearance money and add ons. RL responsibility is of course to manage the clubs finances for its shareholders (many are fans unlike in most other industries) and also has to answert to the bank as they will only push the clubs debt so far.If he shows he is trying to be responsible they will support us, if all of a sudden he says 'oh f### it' and plays all the high earners they might think we are being reckless. Now I understand many will not accept my way of seeing it but it is opinion.

I vote for Scooby and Daren Wheeler. Both in their own ways would provide amusing, insighted, and reactionary pieces that would get the forum moving with heated and thoughtful replies. ps Sundance I think you are your own worst enemy at itmes. You can be very constructive buit then go over the top and that makes your thoughtprovoking posts worthless. Just my opinion, but Daren does not deserve the unfair stick or abuse.

Yep but if you read the pre match predictions the result was far better than the majority of fans thought we'd get

I agree but do we build the team around him at present? Because that is what we have to do if he is a must play in the hole role. In a perverse way him noit be blindingly good every game makes it more likely he will stay as clubs may see him as a risk.He would not get into any PL side in that position at present and so why would he go? He knows he can develop here and he should learn other roles. I still stand by my observation that he needs to work on his shooting skills.

I think what you say may be correct in respect that i doubt RL would ask permissin to talk to the players. It is what he says is more pertinent. I know he used to say a few words when WGS was manager and so why not now?

That is natural, if you are suspisious of somebody anything may seem possible. I think Ro's info is the more likely and adds up, but it may be because i want it to.

StM, whilst I agree with some of what you say I suggest you and about 20 others go onto the predictions thread and read what you all thought the result would be. For then to come on and criticise after what would be seemed as a far better result than you expected seems churlish to me.

Slick if you want to believe it then you will start to see it being true. I keep calling RL the chairman, but come to think of it Im not sure he is is he?

If you think the way RL is doing things is not a risk I wouldnt want to go into business with you.

What I was saying is that if you jump on the fact because i say that RL has input into team selection and take that as read then you should accept the other pieces are also correct.Not to just take the bits out that suit your predudice.

Stanley I think you will find that Giveitto Ron qualified the piece. I would not accept RL picking the team and it something I put in my PM to UMP. I suspect Ron's version seem more credible as he sends down a list of players the club can afford to choose from.

Alpine as you have that crown I very much doubt it. You are the Patsy who keeps banging on about Rudi, I made an observation but you tried to make something of it. You have told us you live in Austria, we take that as good faith for all we know you still live in Southampton and use the excuse of moving to save fielding the 'can't be bothered to go' posts which you never could answer. You want others to spend and pay so you can enjoy the fruits of it.

I accept your word an I didnt mean to imply you were lying but I have 2 versions (including my own ) one from you and Casey, at present I lean towards his but do accept that htere is a middle ground.

Weston I think you are right but it does make sense as the gates are dropping. Stewart Dennis on Radio Hants said that the break even was 17k and the club were precariously close to administration. Therefore RL I assume has a budget permatch to spend. Therefore it is a juggling contest. At present I am finding a lot of my business colleges have been told not only are they not allowed to go above their overdraft limit a lot are having it reduced. Saints whoever is in charge will have constraints and whilst to us football fans it seems obvious that you play your stars who are more likely to win games, but to banks they are more worried about the debt not getting bigger.

Im glad he has as i dont want him to go too soon.

playing in the hole he is, at left back he's not. Having the choice of keeping lallana on a sensible wage against Rudi on 10k plas then there is no contest. For me its not about Rudi its about a young player that needs to improve in certain areas.

Oh look at her

That is fine and I accept that you did so. Iam comfortable accepting jimmy Cases words as it is something that I have seen over the years.I have not got the close knowledge you have on it and so may be wrong. I do feel it serves your purpose to wish for fans to believe your version and so it tempers my judgement. It could be fairly cited that it serves mine to believe Case of course, but to be fair I know JC's history at clubs but i dont yours.

That sounds plausible I was told jan is given the teamsheet but yours would seem more sensible but who knows.Only a few know the full truth. I do know that the club are really trying to stamp out leaks of info and so there is a real fear that anyone a bit loose in their words may get caught out and be fired.

Isnt it funny your double standards. You highlight my opinion and then rubbish the fact and then put up your statement regarding Rudi. LOL

LS all due respect but on this occasion I myself would go with Jimmy Case on this as he played for quite a few teams over the years. You may be right but as you were in the media I suspect you were having a tea and sandwich in the press room rather than be walking around the dressing rooms 5 minutes before kick off. If it was LC wishing the team luck i doubt there would be any notice taken, I wouldnt worry if he had. Askham Im sure never would have because i dont think he would know anything about football even though he has been involved for decades.

Vectis very true and you should accpet that nobody wants to offload the best however much you dislike RL. As I have pointed out before if we manage to avoid administration then those players getting off our wage bill have saved us -10 / -15 points this season and that is more than they would gain us if they played. We are hardly cut adrift yet although if we fail to pick up points in the coming weeks then we will be so.