OldNick

On a post like this I would not be evenhanded, it is just another excuse to cause unrest. Like him you never are happy and always seem to post anti club threads/opinions. I defend the club as when it fails in the short or long term it will effect me as I have purt a lot of time money and emotion into it.Therefore Im not happy to see it being torn by some who dont have IMO realistic plans or beliefs. Get a new chairman I really wouldnt mind but not like the last lot you and others proclaimed were our saviours. I have read (I dont know if it is true) on here that RL will not sell unless the people coming in are prepared to invest long term.Now to me that is responsible as a custodian. I wish for the fans to be united but it is a forlorn hope that it will ever be as so many just cant see the wood for the trees. We cant find an investor and so you cut your cloth accordingly and some wont understand that and that is why as a nation we have so many borrowings because people live beyond their means.RL etc is trying to prevent us doing so at our club, it is painful but needed.

That is true, but at least he did try and be decisive. We have had many managers who fa##y around and put only 1 player on to change this, the time needed drastic action and it made a big difference.

May I point out that the poster who started this thread believes it would be best for us to go into Administration..priceless.

TOA I have got used to in the main shouting into the wind...or should be at the windbags. This site is only lively after a defeat and then the anti's are in full throw, they have the International break to keep it going as well.

Please point me to the plan as i have yet to see this from you.It will be eye opening and much considered.

So lets all give up. By your logic if all our shots had gone in we would have won the game 20-10. We had the opportunity at 3-1 down twice to make it 3-2, had DMG or Surman scored the game would have changed more in our favour and Cov would have panicked more.Whether we would have equalized I dont know but that is what may have happened as the players would have had a different miondset at that time on both sides.Yes had Cov taken their opportunities it may have been 5-0 but I was stating as it was in that moment in time.Had the linesman given the offside then they may not have got the other golden opportunities as things would have played out differently. Im sorry if i dont come on all doom and gloom but I leave that to others.It was a poor disply but there were times where it could have been so different.

I thought his substitutions were brave and did change the flow of the game in our favour.

it wasnt him who said that it was Pekhart

Just shows what a great performance it was. I will see you at the BAFTA's darling

Gasmi will be arriving at the club this week. It is not a new signing but he was injured, I assume with this news is that he has now recovered and so join.

Oh so Weston is now the guru and we should bow to his knowledge. Weston is indeed a respected poster but that doesnt mean he is right,and he has not said it is correct about DMG. You may be naive enough to beleive that the club chairman would guarentee that a 19 year old kid would be guarentted a starting place (as it no doubt serves your slant on things) but i am not prepared to and I spoke to someone at the club and they havenot stopped laughing yet at the preposterous thought.

Well you tell me where that is wrong? It is not excuses it is how I see it.You think had Drew or DMG scored a second things may have been different then? You wallow in your happy to tell us how things are bad in defeat.It is your turn to point out how clever you are stating the bleeding obvious while others actually can understand why the club has to do what it has.We are still waiting to be told the 'alpine Plan' that would be able to cut the clubs 100K aweek losses , play star experienced players and sign some more, without having to rely on young players who in some cases are not quite ready.

well I didnt hear that all I heard was them saying that they thought McKenzie had strayed offside and had gambled.

You are a bit tetchy aren't you today? If it makjes you feel better do it, but dont expect better perfomances as it wont happen if you do. The thing about the 14k attendances has been the fans tremendous patience and that is credit tpo those who turn up.The majority have got behind the team and the players have appreciated that.Go and boo see us spiral down and go into lge 1 and all that goes with it, but at least you were able to show your dissatisfaction at a load of young players who have been thrust into the deep end a little before their time.A team that has ably got 11 points in some tough fixtures (some easier). If you think I dont get frustrated you'd be wrong but i can see the folly of booing players who need all the help they can get.

I know you wont Derry, but how can Lowe stop that rumopur.He's not allowed to say anything as the supporters dont want him to talk and anyway if he did they wouildnt believe it.It is just another nonsense rumour, and there is no way a player of that age would be told he was a definite starter, I understand some ofthe kids on here believing it but not the more mature posters.

Derry you dont have favourites but you do seem to get campaigns up in your head against some. Lets see how this plays out, I believe that DMG will become a very good player you dont. Time will tell. DMG is not a favourite of mine in fact I havent a favourite player. I stand up for players I believe who are wrongfully treated it was KD up to recently with you and now it seems we will have our friendly exchanges on DMG.If he has a poor game I will agree but last night he was not our worst.

Hold on McKenzie wasnt being marked by DMG at set pieces, we were playing 4 up front for the 4th, the first was a cross that a fullback should cover not a wide midfielder.

I would suggest we get on the backs of none of then as in the long term we are the ones who get hurt most, they can move on. I am critical of Drew from last night but wont get on his back

UMP your quote about 'and first on the team sheet ' is misleading IMO. You would no doubt hear the same thing, especially if those people were naive enough to believe it. it is absolute nonsense IMO and another of the fairy tales that grow up on these sites.It is also a useful way to subliminly beat RL. DMG will be become a far better player than the ones you stated and when he puts his chances away as he grows then you will perhaps be more tolerant.Forget not he is not playing in his natural position as is James

Derry you are making statements that you and I dont know the true facts.From what I have seen Jan has been ruthless to players if they dont do as they are assigned. BWP and Dyer prime examples, even Pekhart the other day. The passing issue you can tag at many of our players, do not tell me the lallana and Surman did not do as much if not more last night.Self indulgent was to aimed at Drew Imo yesterday, do you recall Robertson wanting to take the free kick but drew not letting him and shooting into row z?

So yuo would start with 4 up front. The system didnt work because o ur kids are not strong e nough to bully the defence and we play intricate football. 10 games have gone and we are not languishing in the bottom cut adrift as many said we would be and relegated by christmas FFS. I only want us to stay upo this season , and then next push on. We need to hold our nerve.

Hold on there is no way DMG can be blamed for either of Tabbs goals.This is taking things too far. Who was picking up Mckenzie for the second or the the midfielder who broke through before halftime in the middle? Get it real the first was a great run and the ball curled just right for Tabb as it looked it was Mills ball until it did.

Well if you want us to spiral down then get on the backs of 19-22 year olds who have been thrust in to the first team a bit before they are ready due to financial circumstances.

Different type of players and both will make very good footballers. I dont see a bad attitude and that is something that I do look for.

I think you could well be right.Reading will be hell of a test.