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These were new contracts. Dimi is already under contract so will be part of the IPL.

Sorry but what a complete nonsense. Not having a go at the original poster, he just tried to tell us what he had heard and was sceptical himself but come on......IF Morgan was at SMS it will likely be at the closed door game and only then because of the reported Wolves tie up consideration with the Hungarians. If, as I think, Morgan was given Wolves for £1 providing he invested I bet there is a covenant that he will be unable to sell and why would he with the prospect of Premier Football and the financial riches that might bring? I do worry about the naivity of some on this forum

There is no doubt a "Lowe" factor accounting for the decline. That is a given. Last seasons performances will have also contributed. OK we had a massive gate for Sheff Utd at the last game of the season because fans were eager to have their final buzz for what was an important game. Perhaps the same fans that came back for the FA Cup Manchester United buzz. The biggest reason has to be out very poor home results. Arrest the decline and fans will start to come back. However some will have found something else to occupy their Saturday afternoons and some will never step back until Lowe is gone. Basically, start getting results at home and we can start to turn the corner. But if you blame to supporters you will lose them forever.

I think that is highly unlikely but what do I know.

How could it oh master of conspiracy?

See above. What would Lowe achieve?

I might be being a bit naive but I doubt it came from the Lowe or Crouch camp as a deliberate ploy.

Not really. Not because I do not want to, more that I do not have any good information at this stage. Just a hunch picking up various comments. Forester is being derided by some but I suspect he posted it in good faith as I was hearing similar even from a friend in Australia who has family connections in the London Financial Markets.

In fairness this rumour was making the rounds within the financial market at the time Forester posted. Exit2 and SteveGrant had heard it. Clearly speculation by some who had a reasonable idea of what is going on and no smoke without fire. We are not out of the woods yet.

Was it Crouch? Who said. Seymour Pierce allegedly told Lowe someone would buy his shares at 65p but it turned out not to be for his cabel, only his own! I have not heard Crouch say it was him. You are making assumptions and I am pretty sure you are wrong.

The offer is still open.

Have I missed something......where did Crouch offer to buy Lowe and Wildes shares!!!!! By the way, if he did he would own 32.03% and have to bid for the whole club.

Can't blame the players if they are told to play that way. Remember our conversation just before the beginning of the Swansea game when I had spoken to someone who knew the instructions on how the players were told to play. No width then. I am told a certain player who is getting some stick of late was told to continue to play the was he was. I believe it is down to the coach.

Made me smile. Sorry Nick

No, it would serve no further purpose.

This was not normal abuse but vile.

With your ugly mug looking at him I am not suprised he was about to cry......or was it tears of laughter

We all rant at players when they are not doing well but we must remember many of them are your players thrown into the deep end in a relegation battle. I am told some of the abuse thrown at some of the young players on Tuesday was totally unacceptable. OK they know it is part and parcel of football but some of it was really over the top. IT DOES NOT HELP. They are trying their best and in some cases are working to orders. Enough said.

The thing is clubs might well have contacted Saints and made an offer so they could talk to the player but if the club felt the offer was not enough then there is no reason for the player to be told. So Surman not mentioning it in the echo could be that he was not informed. I had a call on Friday evening to say Reading were lining up a bit for him to replace Hunt (it came from within Reading) so they may have made initial contact. In any event Hunt stayed. The same for Adam. Certailly he knew nothing about it when I last spoke to someone on Saturday. I have not been told anything changed. Ot it might easily be pure spin.

So what do we think. In the first innings WI referred 1 but no chang in decision (correctly) england referred 2 and not changed (again correctly). Reafirms just how good the Umpires are. Now in West Indies innings England have referred 2 and one correctly changed. I like this system as it will take out of the game those occassional bad decisions.

Not sure why you blame him for the tommac business. My understanding is that the Lowe group were in touch with him first (after he had been rebuffed by the Exec over the alleged agent to Allen episode). Wilde and Crouch would not play ball over selling their shares. It was only later when he started posting on here. In fact, following his first post on here I actually replied "is that you Tom" but later edited when I realised it was and I might be breaching confidences. Crouch's involvement with him direct was a little later.

I say ignore. He plays for the opposition now. He is not one of us. Don't give him an advantage either way.

If you want me to organise it for you and for you to retain your identity email me on one of my disposables rontic04-saints@yahoo.co.uk and I will arrange for Steve Grant to upgrade you and I will send you my address where you can post the Fiver.

I appreciate he tried Duncan and you know I was fully supportive of those he hoped would step in at the time. It could be said he was let down by others just as Wilde was on the promised (if you believe him which I don't) investment. That was not my point. He failed. What is there to suggest he would succeed this time. Of course IF Lowe sold his interest that might make a difference but I thought all the demands recently was for Lowe to step down, not sell up. I would be 100% behind Salz as Chairman and the others we know were with him at the time in supporting roles. What a board that would have made

If you have information from the inside which is not generally know and you act on that information for financial gain that is Insider Trading, is it not?