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Only reporting what I was told Mike. I have no reason to disbelieve what I was told. I expect he was pretty upset with Wilde doing a disappearing act but I did not ask that question

I have just received a phone call from someone who reads this forum and spoketo to Andrew Cowen after the game. What he said was directed at the the crowd but he was very frustrated at the time. The way the supporters turned and started fighting was a major shock to him and totally unexpected, hense the lack of police for the game.

It is a bit more than that a month

I was told from sources close to Crouch that he had written a letter and I can confirm, from sources close to the board that a letter was received, considered and rejected.

Mick, what makes you think there are people out there ready to buy Lowe and Wildes shares. Why would they take the risk? There are bound to be vultures out there waiting for the club to die but remember what vultures do. They pick at the remains and leave an empty shell.

Administration is not a plan Rob, it is a disaster. We must avoid that at all costs in my opinion.

I think you will find it will be Hampshire Police monitoring not Rupert Lowe. The club have always monitored this site and so they should. It is a feedback tool. As for the post from Baj, quite right, the reminder of the rules to all when emotions are high is timely and necessary.

I had been receiving some criticism from some respected posters on here over the weekend for my attitude to what is going on so my opening post on here was prompted by that and only took about 10 minutes of thought to put it down on paper. We have, what I consider, a stagnant Saints Trust at present and posters from that committee on this forum. There are better minds than me out there and with a bit more thought I am sure my ideas could be expanded and made into a workable document. As many have posted on this thread it may be unworkable/unsucessful and time is of the essence. My post was to stimulate thought, debate and ideas without going down the militant path which will not gain support apart from a tiny minority and alienate the supporter base even more than it is now. My idea was not for the "new regime" to bring in their own monetary investment, that is not likely, but to work within the financial parameters in place at present and invest their skills and time to stabilise and take our club forward. Short term? Is there really any short term action that will be EFFECTIVE in deposing Lowe? What then? There MUST be a workable and effective plan in place for when he does "step down"

Thanks Tris, appreciate your response.

But they have to want to come in first. They need to be approached. As for Askham, Richards and Withers, if thay have not changed their views now they need to be given evidence that there is someone who can do it better. HaHa could anyone do it worse I hear you laugh. Well they still seem to need convincing. And it has to be through lawfull means. Mob rule will not work

Ah the 4 legs good two legs bad.....but for how long

I have started a new thread on this as it is not appropriate on the Cowen one.

That was investing money. I am not expecting that, just his experience of business. It has been reported to me he still has a love for Saints

Well some of them were working with Crouch before he stepped down. Would they act now, I do not know. One is too busy trying to save another major plc at present.

Last season Bransgrove shared the cost of the "Ex Directors" box. I spoke to him about Lowe coming back but I will not post what he said. I do not think they have fallen out although I agree with FloridaMarlin that it is a cool relationship.

So I am criticised for taking a "voice of reason" view by some, come up with a plan of action and this is your response! Thanks for nothing Tris.

Let’s look at this from a logical viewpoint. We want Lowe and Wilde out of SMS and SLH. That is the mission statement but is it enough. We need to make sure someone competent can come in and run the club, not for a while until the mythical investor turns up but for the next 5 years. Ridding Lowe of attending matches is not enough. We need to see the back of him permanently. So how do we achieve it lawfully? We have to marginalise his support but how? Wilde will be a good start but so far he has not shifted as he is worried about losing his money. Quite honestly Lowe is doing a pretty good job at marginalising his own support through his actions to date and even that has been ineffective. What can we achieve? Once he has been marginalised, what next? We need a plan for someone to come in knowing there is no money in the pot with a struggling side and coaches that are just not up to the job. Who is capable of this and drive us forward with a business plan for the next 5 years? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is a way. First find a consortium of business men who have a passion for Saints. Say Salz, Davies and others who I will not name as I have promised confidentiality. Then find a football CEO to bind it all together. Ask them to put together a business plan for the next 3 or 5 years to save the club and take it forward. Once you have that you need to review the shareholders list and write to all shareholders setting out the plan and asked for pledged support. If you are lucky to get enough support you then get the consortium to go to the financial institutions including Aviva for support of the plan and showing the shareholder support. Just may be Wilde and some of the others who support Lowe at present will see that alternative and break ranks. Once you have a pledge for 50% or more, you approach the board and ask them to resign. If they do not you call for an EGM. Once Lowe has gone the rebuilding can take place but it will not happen tomorrow. It needs time Anyone got a better idea?

Try to be civil and through your red mist you might just see I am not a Lowe supporter. Here is a way. First find a consortium of business men who have a passion for Saints. Say Salz, Davies and others who I will not name as I have promised confidentiality. Then find a football COE to bind it all together. Ask them to put together a business plan for the next 3 or 5 years to save the club and take it forward. Once you have that you need to review the shareholders list and write to all shareholders setting out the plan and asked for pledged support. If you are lucky to get enough support you then get the consortium to go to the financial institutions including Aviva for support of the plan and showing the shareholder support. Just may be Wilde and some of the others who support Lowe at present will see that alternative and break ranks. Once you have a pledge for 50% or more, you approach the board and ask them to resign. If they do not you call for an EGM. Once Lowe has gone the rebuilding can take place but it will not happen tomorrow. It needs time Anyone got a better idea?

Let’s look at this from a logical viewpoint. We want Lowe and Wilde out of SMS and SLH. That is the mission statement but is it enough. We need to make sure someone competent can come in and run the club, not for a while until the mythical investor turns up but for the next 5 years. Ridding Lowe of attending matches is not enough. We need to see the back of him permanently. So how do we achieve it lawfully? We have to marginalise his support but how? Wilde will be a good start but so far he has not shifted as he is worried about losing his money. Quite honestly Lowe is doing a pretty good job at marginalising his own support through his actions to date and even that has been ineffective. What can we achieve? Once he has been marginalised, what next? We need a plan for someone to come in knowing there is no money in the pot with a struggling side and coaches that are just not up to the job. Who is capable of this and drive us forward with a business plan for the next 5 years? How is that for starters.

He is not CEO of the rosebowl nor a Director or an employee. Rod Bransgrove told me he has provided some good advice regarding the development of the Rosebowl but that is all. http://www.rosebowlplc.com/pages/whos-who/

Assume you mean themselves as Bransgrove is Chairman and CEO of the Rosebowl plc.

Not really Duncan, I only post what I believe. If that is the voice of reason so be it. I am happy with my approach to matters. I am not doing it to impress others.

No because they usually will ask the club first. Sky tend to keep to their own area and the ex players tend to go into the dressing room rather than the hospitality area unless invited. If they did it is so rare there is unlikely to be a problem but I take my lead from the hospitality manager. Same at Goodwood. Our instructions are those with badges only but if a box holder brings an owner or a trainer in to talk to his group Goodwood say that is acceptable. A balance has to be drawn but I cannot really be objective without the full facts. I was merely putting a point of view that seems out of kilt with the ordinary supporter on here. I can live with that

Perhaps I have taken this view because I steward Hospitality at the Rosebowl and Goodwood Horseracing where the cost per person is much higher than SMS and can see from the inside. There is a way of handling such situations but without knowing the full facts it is difficult to be objective.

If someone comes in for him I would expect him to look to the club to confirm they will be extending or offering him a new contract. Loyalty can only go so far and needs a loyal response from the board. I doubt he will get the reassuring he needs and will be off. His stock is reasonable high at the moment and he will be able to command a decent contract elsewhere. Stay until the end of the season with a club likely to be relegated and a chance of a dip in personal form without a good prospect of a new or extended contract and he would be daft to stay loyal. The club should act now and offer him at least a 1 year extention whilst finances are sorted. But I am not holding my breath!!