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Yes, but you could say that about all religions. why pick on Islam? Islam, like Judaism and Christianity is the belief in a magic being in the sky with no proof or evidence apart from what is written in a book which was invented by men a few thousand years ago. Hinduism is belief in lots of magic beings in the sky. So, why pick on Islam?

As JB says, like most Christians (and, for that matter, Hindus, Buddhists and atheists). But you haven't answered my question. What is the point you're trying to make?

Okay, @hypo, whelk, duckhunter, batman, sour grapes, etc etc.... I really don't see your point. So, some terrorists claim to represent a particular view of Islam. And.....? So what? What are you trying to say? You will, I am sure, acknowledge that the vast, over-whelming majority of Muslims are perfectly fine folk just going about their daily lives.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...... Sour 'Snowflake' Mash calling someone else out for not answering a question. The words pot, kettle and black spring to mind.

Ha, continuing to not answer the question, I see. Quelle surprise. Okay, carry on with your whining and moaning - careful you don't melt.

Nope, I'm not upset, Sour 'Snowflake' Mash. I will concede to being a little frustrated that you won't answer my question but I guess that's your prerogative. Carry on whining and moaning and definitely don't offer any solutions, whatever you do.... Lol, careful you don't melt

Ha, why am I not surprised that you refuse to answer the question? It's because you're a total snowflake, far happier sitting in your room behind your computer screen meaning and whining like a small child than having any courage in your convictions. Pathetic. Every time there's a terrorist attack (Muslim only, no sign of you when there's an attack by any other group) I suspect you're sitting there, rubbing your thighs in your best Vic Reeves style, anticipating with excitement at the renewed opportunity to vent your spleen.

Of course I'm not a fan of importing terrorism. I have no problem, however, with allowing immigration from a controlled number of Muslims. I don't see the two as the same. You however, seem to. But you also seem to be just a snowflake, sticking your hands in the air and saying 'too late, damage is done' - moaning and whining but without any real solutions. That's not good enough. Man up and have some courage in your convictions. If you REALLY believe that ALL Muslims are dangerous and terrorists in the making, then something needs to be done about it, wouldn't you agree? In your ideal world, what would you do? It just isn't good enough saying that it's too late and nothing can be done. Or is it? In which case, you're inviting terrorism to happen and are a traitor.

That wasn't the question. Let me try again. Assuming we stop ALL Muslim immigration, we are left with approx 2.7 million Muslims in the UK. You seem to regard Islam (which you seem to equate to a culture) as an inherently dangerous religion. So, my question is, what do we do with the 2.7 million Muslims who are currently here (most of them being British)?

Yes, I'd be bothered about importing that type of culture, but I don't think we are. In any case, Adrian Elms (yep, that was his name) from Kent acted in a hate-filled, murderous way. He wasn't 'imported'. So, let's say all Muslims are refused entry to Europe. We ban anyone who identifies with the Muslim faith. All banned. No ifs and buts. So, what do we 'do' about it? We're still left with 2.7 million Muslims in Britain. According to you they are ALL guilty of following a murderous culture. ALL of them. Men, women and children. Doctors, lawyers, teachers, police. All of them. Yes? Is that right? All 2.7 million of them. Correct? So, what do we 'do' about them? Your turn to answer the question.

You're right, nothing to do with Islam, everything to do with hatred and a murderous outlook - which is not Islam.

Define 'many' The current Muslim population of 44 million. By 2030 it is projected to be about 60 million. That is in a total population in Europe of about 750 million. So, no biggie really and I'm not too bothered about it. I know and work with several Muslims and they're all fine. I work internationally with Muslims across Europe and the world and they're all fine. My kids have Muslim friends at school and they and they're parents are lovely people. So, based on my personal experience, I have no worries. How about you? Are you quaking in your boots. In any case, it is just demographic change, isn't it? What on earth would you 'do' about it? Stopping immigration isn't going to change much as we have a settled Muslim population. In fact, apart from kerbing immigration, I'd be interested in what you'd 'do' to stop the 'spread' of the Muslim population.

Define 'spread of Islam'. At the moment, the total is about 6% of the European population, and that includes all-Muslim countries like Albania and Russia (which has a high Muslim minority of 10% in its far-flung Eastern provinces).

Well, that is true. There's a pub in Bath (the Green Tree) which has a framed Wittgenstein quote.

I wonder how often Wittgenstein gets invoked in discussions of any kind on football forums.

Snopes report on the New Yorker hoax http://www.snopes.com/donald-trump-new-yorker/ Oh, and the Robert Creamer article was written by Tyler Durden

https://fullfact.org/europe/how-often-does-eu-overrule-british-ministers/ The influence that all member states have is behind the scenes, as outlined in this quote from the above article.

Lol, can't believe you're claiming racial differences in IQ. The 'research' this is based on was undertaken by the largely discredited Professor Richard Lynn (who famously claim men have higher cognitive abilities than women and also supports eugenics). The 'research' behind this has been critiqued on a number of points but primarily over the representativeness and generalisability of the IQ studies. Also, Lynn was very selective in his review of the extant literature... Source: http://www.iapsych.com/iqmr/fe/LinkedDocuments/wicherts2010b.pdf

That's an interesting poll. I didn't know the country was quite so eurosceptic back in the early-80s. Also very interesting how things have gone since the referendum became a reality.

But you don't give it up, do you? So, therefore, it isn't too much. You might like to pay less, but while you and plenty of others continue to fork out, the prices won't budge down, just continue to creep up.

Lol Now a dog running around on the owner's property is a target. This is just totally ludicrous. http://metro.co.uk/2015/10/22/policeman-shoots-dead-beloved-pet-dog-after-she-ran-up-to-greet-him-5455180/

Apologies in advance - this is a Daily Heil link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3275534/Devastated-relatives-file-lawsuit-against-sheriff-s-deputy-shot-dead-unarmed-teenager-flashed-car-lights-him.html A quote in case you can't stomach clicking on the link "The devastated family of an unarmed teenage boy who was shot dead by a Michigan sheriff's deputy earlier this year after flashing his car lights at him has filed a lawsuit against the officer. Deven Guilford, 17, was pulled over by Sgt. Jonathan Frost, of Eaton County Sheriff's Department, on a cold evening in February after flashing the officer because he believed his brights were on. During the traffic stop, Guilford refused to put his hands behind his back or give Frost any official documents, leading to an altercation between them, according to county prosecutor Doug Lloyd. This ended with Guilford lying dead in a snow-filled ditch, having been shot seven times by Frost."

You know, I looked at this thread thinking that the OP meant that sick weirdos were taking over SWF. Seems that I was right. All of you who fall for this nonsense and believe everything you read on Facebook, just wanting to be outraged... yes, you're all reactionary, sick weirdos.

Here you go, a well-researched blog article with the sources and methodology clearly laid out. https://dispellingthemythukvsusguns.wordpress.com/