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    Simplify the penalty rules, everyone does what the jell they like....that's what will happen anyway for the top teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suewhistle View Post
    I've heard that it is going to be tried out at grass roots level next season.
    Rather than grass roots level I think these should be tried out in womanís football. Itíll be great for womenís football to be the pioneers of all the changes and raise the profile of the game, ultimately if it works in front of a couple of hundred fans at a professional womenís game itís more likely to work and be easier to transfer to the mans game than in parks football. Plus There will be less arguing about the decisions (unless itís time of the month) and if the decisions donít work no one cares about the results anyway so there is no downside.

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    Worth noting that in the IFAB documentation regarding the law changes from this summer (link: http://static-3eb8.kxcdn.com/documen...ifications.pdf), there is not a single mention regarding the handball law changes that specifies the changes only apply to "the attacking third", as the article in the OP states.

    The full text is as follows:

    It is an offence if a player:
    * deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, including moving the hand/armtowards the ball
    * gains possession/control of the ball after it has touched their hand/arm and then:
    ** scores in the opponentsí goal
    ** creates a goal-scoring opportunity
    ** scores in the opponentsí goal directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental,including by the goalkeeper

    It is usually an offence if a player:
    * touches the ball with their hand/arm when:
    ** the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger
    ** the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberatelyplays the ball which then touches their hand/arm)

    The above offences apply even if the ball touches a playerís hand/arm directly fromthe head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close.

    Except for the above offences, it is not usually an offence if the ball touches a playeríshand/arm:
    * directly from the playerís own head or body (including the foot)
    * directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close
    * if the hand/arm is close to the body and does not make the body unnaturallybigger
    * when a player falls and the hand/arm is between the body and the ground tosupport the body, but not extended laterally or vertically away from the body

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevegrant View Post
    Worth noting that in the IFAB documentation regarding the law changes from this summer (link: http://static-3eb8.kxcdn.com/documen...ifications.pdf), there is not a single mention regarding the handball law changes that specifies the changes only apply to "the attacking third", as the article in the OP states.

    The full text is as follows:

    It is an offence if a player:
    * deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, including moving the hand/armtowards the ball
    * gains possession/control of the ball after it has touched their hand/arm and then:
    ** scores in the opponents’ goal
    ** creates a goal-scoring opportunity
    ** scores in the opponents’ goal directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental,including by the goalkeeper

    It is usually an offence if a player:
    * touches the ball with their hand/arm when:
    ** the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger
    ** the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberatelyplays the ball which then touches their hand/arm)

    The above offences apply even if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly fromthe head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close.

    Except for the above offences, it is not usually an offence if the ball touches a player’shand/arm:
    * directly from the player’s own head or body (including the foot)
    * directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close
    * if the hand/arm is close to the body and does not make the body unnaturallybigger
    * when a player falls and the hand/arm is between the body and the ground tosupport the body, but not extended laterally or vertically away from the body
    For me that list does clarify pretty much every eventuality. Having said that, it's a pretty long check list for a referee to mentally go through on the spur of the moment whilst action still continues around him, it's no wonder inconsistencies creep in.

    Don't like the BIB, I think if a keeper can punch clear a cross whilst under pressure with enough power and accuracy to get it straight into the opposition net 100+ yards away he deserves the goal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wurzel View Post
    For me that list does clarify pretty much every eventuality. Having said that, it's a pretty long check list for a referee to mentally go through on the spur of the moment whilst action still continues around him, it's no wonder inconsistencies creep in.
    Yeah, I think it's pretty unambiguous now, which is all we ask for, really. Maybe next year they'll clear up the offside law...

    Ultimately, we know that most players don't deliberately handle it, but if they've gained a significant advantage from doing so, they should be penalised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevegrant View Post
    Worth noting that in the IFAB documentation regarding the law changes from this summer (link: http://static-3eb8.kxcdn.com/documen...ifications.pdf), there is not a single mention regarding the handball law changes that specifies the changes only apply to "the attacking third", as the article in the OP states.

    The full text is as follows:

    It is an offence if a player:
    * deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, including moving the hand/armtowards the ball
    * gains possession/control of the ball after it has touched their hand/arm and then:
    ** scores in the opponents’ goal
    ** creates a goal-scoring opportunity
    ** scores in the opponents’ goal directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental,including by the goalkeeper

    It is usually an offence if a player:
    * touches the ball with their hand/arm when:
    ** the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger
    ** the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberatelyplays the ball which then touches their hand/arm)

    The above offences apply even if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly fromthe head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close.

    Except for the above offences, it is not usually an offence if the ball touches a player’shand/arm:
    * directly from the player’s own head or body (including the foot)
    * directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close
    * if the hand/arm is close to the body and does not make the body unnaturallybigger
    * when a player falls and the hand/arm is between the body and the ground tosupport the body, but not extended laterally or vertically away from the body
    "has made their body unnaturally bigger" Has the arm swollen to twice its normal size?

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    What about boners? Is that third arm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by benjii View Post
    What about boners? Is that third arm?
    No, but it's the reason attackers have to be at least 1m away from a wall at free kicks now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevegrant View Post
    Worth noting that in the IFAB documentation regarding the law changes from this summer (link: http://static-3eb8.kxcdn.com/documen...ifications.pdf), there is not a single mention regarding the handball law changes that specifies the changes only apply to "the attacking third", as the article in the OP states.

    The full text is as follows:

    It is an offence if a player:
    * deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, including moving the hand/armtowards the ball
    * gains possession/control of the ball after it has touched their hand/arm and then:
    ** scores in the opponents’ goal
    ** creates a goal-scoring opportunity
    ** scores in the opponents’ goal directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental,including by the goalkeeper

    It is usually an offence if a player:
    * touches the ball with their hand/arm when:
    ** the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger
    ** the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberatelyplays the ball which then touches their hand/arm)

    The above offences apply even if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly fromthe head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close.

    Except for the above offences, it is not usually an offence if the ball touches a player’shand/arm:
    * directly from the player’s own head or body (including the foot)
    * directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close
    * if the hand/arm is close to the body and does not make the body unnaturallybigger
    * when a player falls and the hand/arm is between the body and the ground tosupport the body, but not extended laterally or vertically away from the body
    What's the definition of "close"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Munster View Post
    What's the definition of "close"?
    Dating, I think.

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