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I have just returned from my local here in Brighton, where I consumed many a pint (in celebration of Saint Markus) with my Albion friends - who were jealous, extremely jealous, nay even suicidaly jealous - when what should walk in?? A fat lard-ass wearing a Skate shirt. I had to get a hold of my horses, 'cause I was ready to go and ask him how his bunch were doing - you know, what with all the 90 Million of debt, rag-head-buyer getting cold feet, **** urine-soaked stadium, VAT bill unpaid and no chance of staying in the Prem season after next....

 

... I was just itching to let him know that we have a stadium worthy of an England international, we had bigger turnstile numbers in the championship than they did in the prem; they couldn’t even fill fratton in the prem! We have a bigger – much bigger – fan base, we have better training facilities and we have a better academy. Oh, and I am sure there is something else too? Mmmm? What can it be now? Gosh, I am going senile…. Ah Ha! Yes! That is it! Our club’s 124 year history is now safe in the hands of a proven business man, a man worth £2.5 billion, and a man who is dedicated to our club.. and, lest I forget, we have not a single solitary penny of debt at all! We – through our Magnificent Saviour – own our own stadium outright – which has physical foundations in place to increase the capacity-, and our own training ground and our own academy!!

 

But, as itching as I was to jump off my barstool and let him know that the Mighty Saints were back I couldn’t. After all, we all know that we are a cut above them don’t we? The last few years were an aberration and there is nothing to be gained in kicking a lowly creature in the guts. So I just sat upon my stool and sipped my beer, with pride in my heart, and looked at his daft blue shirt and gave thanks to the good Lord that I was born a Saint!

 

Up the Saints!

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wasnt like that circa 2003 and before

 

you're right. Being an Islander, having to witness the profligation of blue shirts over the last few years, has made me sick. But we still have a very solid base on the East Wight in Ryde etc. The Red and White is always more durable than the blue.

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I have just returned from my local here in Brighton, where I consumed many a pint (in celebration of Saint Markus) with my Albion friends - who were jealous, extremely jealous, nay even suicidaly jealous - when what should walk in?? A fat lard-ass wearing a Skate shirt. I had to get a hold of my horses, 'cause I was ready to go and ask him how his bunch were doing - you know, what with all the 90 Million of debt, rag-head-buyer getting cold feet, **** urine-soaked stadium, VAT bill unpaid and no chance of staying in the Prem season after next....

 

... I was just itching to let him know that we have a stadium worthy of an England international, we had bigger turnstile numbers in the championship than they did in the prem; they couldn’t even fill fratton in the prem! We have a bigger – much bigger – fan base, we have better training facilities and we have a better academy. Oh, and I am sure there is something else too? Mmmm? What can it be now? Gosh, I am going senile…. Ah Ha! Yes! That is it! Our club’s 124 year history is now safe in the hands of a proven business man, a man worth £2.5 billion, and a man who is dedicated to our club.. and, lest I forget, we have not a single solitary penny of debt at all! We – through our Magnificent Saviour – own our own stadium outright – which has physical foundations in place to increase the capacity-, and our own training ground and our own academy!!

 

But, as itching as I was to jump off my barstool and let him know that the Mighty Saints were back I couldn’t. After all, we all know that we are a cut above them don’t we? The last few years were an aberration and there is nothing to be gained in kicking a lowly creature in the guts. So I just sat upon my stool and sipped my beer, with pride in my heart, and looked at his daft blue shirt and gave thanks to the good Lord that I was born a Saint!

Up the Saints!

 

You have just provided the definition of 'class' !

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you're right. Being an Islander, having to witness the profligation of blue shirts over the last few years, has made me sick. But we still have a very solid base on the East Wight in Ryde etc. The Red and White is always more durable than the blue.

I am sure you mean proliferation :-)

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Our club’s 124 year history is now safe in the hands of a proven business man, a man worth £2.5 billion, and a man who is dedicated to our club.. and, lest I forget, we have not a single solitary penny of debt at all! We – through our Magnificent Saviour – own our own stadium outright – which has physical foundations in place to increase the capacity-, and our own training ground and our own academy!!

 

 

Up the Saints!

 

I dont dispute much of what you say and i am glad you stayed sat down.

 

Do we know for a fact that we are debt free now?

OK ML may be worth £2.5bn BUT has he wiped the debts and bought the stadium OR has he leveraged the purchase against the assets - much like Man U etc. So we are still in debt but have money behind us.

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I dont dispute much of what you say and i am glad you stayed sat down.

 

Do we know for a fact that we are debt free now?

OK ML may be worth £2.5bn BUT has he wiped the debts and bought the stadium OR has he leveraged the purchase against the assets - much like Man U etc. So we are still in debt but have money behind us.

According to the Echo interview with Nicola Cortese we are absolutely, completely, categorically debt free. He was very clear about it, so I for one am inclined to believe it.
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I dont dispute much of what you say and i am glad you stayed sat down.

 

Do we know for a fact that we are debt free now?

OK ML may be worth £2.5bn BUT has he wiped the debts and bought the stadium OR has he leveraged the purchase against the assets - much like Man U etc. So we are still in debt but have money behind us.

 

ssshhhhh! don't be an egiot!

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You mean you wasted 0.5 ?? I am disapointed with you 1976 !!

 

I bet you had no potatoe products tonight either ??

 

Lol! No, 7 pints in pub, 1 pint at home, 0.5 pint still in glass...

 

Potatoe product ce soir est le pomme frite, quand je can be arsed to go and turn le oven on... avec le poisson avec batter.

 

Eh? from whence did this Franglais come?

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Lol! No, 7 pints in pub, 1 pint at home, 0.5 pint still in glass...

 

Potatoe product ce soir est le pomme frite, quand je can be arsed to go and turn le oven on... avec le poisson avec batter.

 

Eh? from whence did this Franglais come?

 

**** no's !! Made the honey chicken, veg and the salty half new boil half roast (with encrusted salt) potatoes !!! Good times.

 

The missus is currently handing out my beers to her mate from work :( *****, if i hear one more ring pull pop i'm gonna go mental !!

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Whatever the argument, anyone who goes to the pub in a football shirt has lost it.
Any adult who wears a football shirt anywhere but on a football pitch is a sad muppet IMHO - especially when accompanied with shell suit trousers, trainers and a beer belly :cool: .....unless they are at the ground watching of course (although I still wouldn't). Edited by kpturner
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I go to the Chapel Arms of a match day and there are many folks who shopped for their shirts in the same store as me? Do you mean, ever?

 

No, I will excuse those about to attend or play football. You are forgiven.

 

I will not excuse those watching a match on the telly in the pub or those who consider a football shirt to be acceptable casual / leisure wear.

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Good post, shame about the rag head reference

 

thank you. But why is 'rag head' any more un-pc than referring to a banker as a 'pin-striped, braces-wearing moron'

 

Be careful not to dilute true racism (being the criminal subjugation of one DNA-specified race by another) with the solvent of culture, which is neither inflamatory nor provocative. Indeed much of public debate surrounding immigration has its seed sown from the hopper of culturism rather than true racism, which is abhorent in any sane man's mind.

 

... a bit like me taking the rib over a chap wearing a skate shirt....

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thank you. But why is 'rag head' any more un-pc than referring to a banker as a 'pin-striped, braces-wearing moron'

 

Be careful not to dilute true racism from the criminal subjugation of one DNA-specified race by another, with the solvent of culture, which is neither inflamatory nor provocative. Indeed much of public debate surrounding immigration has its seed sown from the hopper of culturism rather than true racism, which is abhorent in any sane man's mind.

 

... a bit like me taking the rib over a chap wearing a skate shirt....

Which web site did you copy and paste that paragraph in from then?
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thank you. But why is 'rag head' any more un-pc than referring to a banker as a 'pin-striped, braces-wearing moron'

 

Be careful not to dilute true racism (being the criminal subjugation of one DNA-specified race by another) with the solvent of culture, which is neither inflamatory nor provocative. Indeed much of public debate surrounding immigration has its seed sown from the hopper of culturism rather than true racism, which is abhorent in any sane man's mind.

 

... a bit like me taking the rib over a chap wearing a skate shirt....

 

Because "Rag head" is a derogatory term, solely used to denegrate the Arab race.

 

It's racist... and as such makes your post completely classless.. IMO of course.

 

Oh, casual racism is against the forum rules, btw.

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Because "Rag head" is a derogatory term, solely used to denegrate the Arab race.

 

It's racist... and as such makes your post completely classless.. IMO of course.

 

Oh, casual racism is against the forum rules, btw.

 

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/derogatory

 

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/derogatory

 

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/derogatory

 

http://www.yourdictionary.com/derogatory

 

(which of these definitions makes my statement racist?)

 

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"solely used to denegrate the Arab race" yawn...

 

really... please read and digest my posts...

 

by the way, there is no such thing as the 'Arab race'.

 

Don't let the facts of serious discusion get in the way though....

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thank you. But why is 'rag head' any more un-pc than referring to a banker as a 'pin-striped, braces-wearing moron'

 

Be careful not to dilute true racism (being the criminal subjugation of one DNA-specified race by another) with the solvent of culture, which is neither inflamatory nor provocative. Indeed much of public debate surrounding immigration has its seed sown from the hopper of culturism rather than true racism, which is abhorent in any sane man's mind.

 

... a bit like me taking the rib over a chap wearing a skate shirt....

 

Because the first is clearly a racial stereotype and the second is a known fact ;-)

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Because the first is clearly a racial stereotype and the second is a known fact ;-)

 

indeed. And racial stereotype is miles away from being racist. It is the taking of a culture and making flipant of it. A country mile and a yard away from saying that "he be of jewish origin, gas him" or "because he can withold a pen in his curly hair, whilst shaking his head, he is a negro, enslave him."...

 

making fun of someone's culture is not racism. Rude, sure, but not racism.

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It is a racist remark I am afraid IMHO of course. I agree with ponty and I believe most people would. Try shouting it at a football match and I am sure the police would agree too.

 

me thinks someone taking things a tad to serious.once again a thread ruined by a over reaction.do what i do if you dont Like summin dont read it

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It is a racist remark I am afraid IMHO of course. I agree with ponty and I believe most people would. Try shouting it at a football match and I am sure the police would agree too.

 

"United are a bunch of w*nkers"

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"The Skates..."

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(work it out)

...

 

 

Is it a racist remark? Do you really think so? Re-read my posts. Racism is not something to be taken lightly...Racism is not something for comfortable people to pretend to be vigilant against. Real, nasty, horrid racism of the South African aparteid, pre-civil rights USA, 30's Germany, indeed perhaps even China today (with the western Muslim tribes). To try and find racism from rude reference to head gear worn by some is to be, frankly, up one's own ass. All IMHO of course...

 

(by the way, Monty Panesar - a true Englishman - and I hope a national hero in these Ashes, is none the less a rag head - he wears a turban on his head. I am a rude bugger for saying it, but I bet you an ounce of sugar that if you ask him which part of that sentence he cares about, he would be pleased to be referred to as a 'true Englishman' and no doubt would call me a rude c*nt for marking him out for his turban. But I doubt that he would hound me into court for 'racism')

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me thinks someone taking things a tad to serious.once again a thread ruined by a over reaction.do what i do if you dont Like summin dont read it
Not me. I am not bothered, I am just saying that I agree with ponty. I am expressing an opinion on a previous post, just like you are. "ruining a thread" - lol, what a quaint viewpoint.
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No one is trying to hound you into court just wishing you would stop being a rude c#nt when there is no need for it.

 

You can split hairs all day whether something is racist or not either way its just ignorant. Still its good to see your general studies gcse is going well, you can use this as coursework to demonstrate that you are making progress within the context of your cultural studies learning goals.

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No one is trying to hound you into court just wishing you would stop being a rude c#nt when there is no need for it.

 

You can split hairs all day whether something is racist or not either way its just ignorant. Still its good to see your general studies gcse is going well, you can use this as coursework to demonstrate that you are making progress within the context of your cultural studies learning goals.

 

ha! now that is pure quality! bravo!

 

edit: "cultural studies learning goals", is this really part of the curriculum? Perhaps that is the problem! My " cultural studies learning" has been achieved by actually going and living in other cultures. Still, no doubt in NewLiebour ejucation world they truely do think that youngsters can learn about other cultures through black board and chalk alone.

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I am not going to quote all that 76 because IMHO it is semantic pseudo-intellectual nonsense. I don't care about itthat much - I am just saying that if you attend an ashes match and start shouting "rag head" at monte panasar then the police will arrest your arse whether monte finds it offensive or not. If you disagree then fine.

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