Late Goals

[SaintNeil90]

Why do we let in so many late goals?

 

Goal scored by Millwall 90+5

Goal scored by Ipswich 90+1

Goal scored by Brentford 83

 

Is it fitness? Do they lose concentration?

[Saint_clark]

That's 3 unless I can't count, and i'm fairly certain that plenty of other teams in this league have conceded/will concede around the same amount of late goals.

[Thedelldays]

That's 3 unless I can't count, and i'm fairly certain that plenty of other teams in this league have conceded/will concede around the same amount of late goals.

I said the same last year...I knew it was OK for is to concede late then..

 

I also did in the prem..it was alright back then..not as if you could cherry pick a last second goal that could have saved us...

 

[SaintNeil90]

but this has happened in 3 of the last 4 games. I would agree with you if it was the odd late goal every so often.

[Saint_clark]

Before this season we conceded far too many - and much more than we have conceded this year.

IT HAPPENS TO EVERYONE. We are never going to be the exception to the rule.

[Saint_clark]

but this has happened in 3 of the last 4 games. I would agree with you if it was the odd late goal every so often.

 

Because the games have been coming thick and fast and players are more tired than usual in the closing seconds of a game.

[CHAZZA 92]

it is just so frustrating that we have thrown away so many points from being in winning positions

[SaintNeil90]

Because the games have been coming thick and fast and players are more tired than usual in the closing seconds of a game.

 

Otsemobor, Fonte and Seaborne didnt play on Saturday.

[Thedelldays]

Because the games have been coming thick and fast and players are more tired than usual in the closing seconds of a game.

I thought we had a couple of weeks of lately..?

[scott_saints]

Goals being scored in the final stage of the game shocker.

 

But what I wanna know is, why the f**k do we concede goals in the opening stage of the game sometimes... and ffs, even near and around half time?! Wtf is going on!!

[SaintNeil90]

Goals being scored in the final stage of the game shocker.

 

But what I wanna know is, why the f**k do we concede goals in the opening stage of the game sometimes... and ffs, even near and around half time?! Wtf is going on!!

 

is there any need for this? n*b

[TijuanaTim]

That's 3 unless I can't count, and i'm fairly certain that plenty of other teams in this league have conceded/will concede around the same amount of late goals.

 

TBF I've been writing about this as our major drawback from being in a play-off position for ages and just get flack....look up the inordinate percentage of (late) second half goals that we concede, that then frequently cost us clean sheets/points/games.

[alpine_saint]

Why do we let in so many late goals?

 

Goal scored by Millwall 90+5

Goal scored by Ipswich 90+1

Goal scored by Brentford 83

 

Is it fitness? Do they lose concentration?

 

Yes and yes.

 

Though in fairness, its nowhere near as bad a situation as under Burley.

[TijuanaTim]

Yes and yes.

 

Though in fairness, its nowhere near as bad a situation as under Burley.

 

Out of he first 15 goals we conceded this season only two were in the 1st half (one in the 42 min) with 10 between the 65 and 90th.

[TijuanaTim]

The last dozen goals we've let in have been 2 1st half goals and 10 2nd half of which all but one were pretty well in the last quarter of the game...???

 

There is a mega-serious trend, which is extremely costly and desperately needs addressing!!

[benjii]

Oh Christ, not one of these threads.

[Wiltshire Saint]

Oh Christ, not one of these threads.

 

Please, if you have nothing sensible to add then leave the thread alone.

 

I have often wondered about this phenomena, especially after our American based Saints fan, Tijuana Tim, brought it up so many times. I wish I knew why we conceded so many goals at the late stage of the game. Maybe we don't concentrate properly? I think AP should use some of MLs money to go and buy some players that can concentrate. They don't need to be really good players because AP should just bring them on for the last 15 minutes where they would concentrate hard and stop the goals. They could be big lumps of players, designed to concetrate and get in the way of shots and whatnot. Come AP, sort it out! COYR!!

[Smirking_Saint]

Please, if you have nothing sensible to add then leave the thread alone.

 

 

Hmm,

 

Something about glass houses and throwing stones ???

[Thedelldays]

Pards is concerned about the late goals also

 

better tell him not to worry eh?

[Saint_clark]

You should always strive for perfection, the point I was making earlier in the thread was that it happens to every team and that people should stop making out that it is ONLY US it happens to.

[SaintNeil90]

You should always strive for perfection, the point I was making earlier in the thread was that it happens to every team and that people should stop making out that it is ONLY US it happens to.

 

No one said it was 'ONLY US'.

[Saint_clark]

No one said it was 'ONLY US'.

 

Fair enough, so in answer to your earlier question;

"Why do we let in so many late goals?"

 

It is part of football. Next.

[Thedelldays]

Fair enough, so in answer to your earlier question;

"Why do we let in so many late goals?"

 

It is part of football. Next.

 

Better email pardew. He is concerned about our late goals being let in

[Saint_clark]

Better email pardew. He is concerned about our late goals being let in

 

As I said - you should always strive for perfection. But I don't think it is down to something that our players specifically are doing wrong.

When we scored a late goal against Norwich, we didn't say "thank f*ck they don't concentrate in the last minutes", we all said "thank f*ck we kept going right to the end".

Brentford kept going right to the end.

[shurlock]

Better email pardew. He is concerned about our late goals being let in

 

 

Tonight's goal was not the same as Milwall and Ipswich. It had been coming and would have come alot earlier had it not been for the woodwork and kelvin...

[Simples]

I think a lot of this has been down to, (this year A LOT), our status as a club who is too big for this league. As has been said by many people on many threads this year; coming to St Mary's is most teams 'cup final'.

 

Therefore, many teams start of the match as not wanting to be humiliated, but to come away with a marginal loss. Therefore, with ten or so minutes to go, being one behind or on even terms, they will go for it like their lifes depend on it. Just like when you see an underdog performing in a cup game.

 

Therefore, with this pressure on most of our matches in this league, we are always going to be under so much pressure at the end of games with teams desperate to 'be the hero' against a 'bigger club'.

 

Simples :cool:

[Saint_clark]

I think a lot of this has been down to, (this year A LOT), our status as a club who is too big for this league. As has been said by many people on many threads this year; coming to St Mary's is most teams 'cup final'.

 

Therefore, many teams start of the match as not wanting to be humiliated, but to come away with a marginal loss. Therefore, with ten or so minutes to go, being one behind or on even terms, they will go for it like their lifes depend on it. Just like when you see an underdog performing in a cup game.

 

Therefore, with this pressure on most of our matches in this league, we are always going to be under so much pressure at the end of games with teams desperate to 'be the hero' against a 'bigger club'.

 

Simples :cool:

 

Well, that argument might make sense, but late, late goals we've conceded this season (Millwall, Stockport etc) have been away from home.

[Saint Fan CaM]

The reason for this problem lies simply with the midfield. They let the opposition rule the roost for long periods by sitting too deep and eventually the team cracks under the pressure. I have seen this happen time after time after time and its still not been addressed. Why? Because the central midfield pairing has never been addressed by appointing two top midfield generals - one a playmaker, the other a holding play-breaker. A pairing something along the lines of Safri and Quashie perhaps would dominate midfield AND put in a decent shift defensively. Our midfielders are currently too niave (Morgan), too unskilled in terms of holding and playing the ball to feet (Wotton) and too scarred to take responsibility (all) - so they sit back and allow the opposition to dictate the play.

 

A decent midfield would be....

 

Antonio ?New Signing (Playmaker) Hammond Holmes

 

with up front....

Lambo/Lallana/Connolly/Herbie

[David Strover]

For the original statement to make any sense you have compare our 'late goal conceding' record with everyone in League One (at least) and see if it average or inordinately high.