1976_Child Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 Just back from the game. What a ****ing shambles. From start to finish we we're just plain bad. There is no excuse. None. Today's performance was utter crap. Utter, utter crap. Their heads were down and their spirits too. Individually they might have cared about the game, but collectively they clearly didn't. It is no good Wilkins coming out with asinine comments like : "Today I don't think we were dynamic enough in terms of delivery into the box, and having someone get on the end of it, and that has pretty much cost us [OS]". That could be said of any losing football team in any league or none! We were just bad today. Bad. Really, really bad. There was nothing. So, lads, when I crawl out of my bed on Monday morning at 5.am, travel to work, do my grind to earn in a year what some of you do in 2 weeks, don't be surprised I get ****ed off about your 'performance'. You were ****ing atrocious. Week willed, simpletons. And yet you still get paid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 Just back from the game. What a ****ing shambles. From start to finish we we're just plain bad. There is no excuse. None. Today's performance was utter crap. Utter, utter crap. Their heads were down and their spirits too. Individually they might have cared about the game, but collectively they clearly didn't. It is no good Wilkins coming out with asinine comments like : "Today I don't think we were dynamic enough in terms of delivery into the box, and having someone get on the end of it, and that has pretty much cost us [OS]". That could be said of any losing football team in any league or none! We were just bad today. Bad. Really, really bad. There was nothing. So, lads, when I crawl out of my bed on Monday morning at 5.am, travel to work, do my grind to earn in a year what some of you do in 2 weeks, don't be surprised I get ****ed off about your 'performance'. You were ****ing atrocious. Week willed, simpletons. And yet you still get paid... a few more like that and they will not be getting any promotion bonuses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 Don't hold back '76, tell us what you really think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 What game was wilkins watching? How could he take chamberlain off? He was the one positive for me in a poor performance. Not sure you can really blame the players though - can you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 4 September, 2010 Author Share Posted 4 September, 2010 Don't hold back '76, tell us what you really think. What sort of crap comment is that, Grandad? ****a. On this thread, here and now, I call you out. Tell us what YOU really think about today's game? Were you even there? Go on, ****ing let fly. Tell us what YOU think about today's crap which passed for a football game. Don't hide in the shadows. Don't snipe at me. You ****ing tell me how you really think. Go on you ****ing self-righteous b'stard, tell us what your take on the game was. Kn-0-b. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 Its funny that some people still applauded them off, the majority of the players just went straight down the tunnel without even thinking about the fans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 What sort of crap comment is that, Grandad? ****a. On this thread, here and now, I call you out. Tell us what YOU really think about today's game? Were you even there? Go on, ****ing let fly. Tell us what YOU think about today's crap which passed for a football game. Don't hide in the shadows. Don't snipe at me. You ****ing tell me how you really think. Go on you ****ing self-righteous b'stard, tell us what your take on the game was. Kn-0-b. I agree with every word you said, and yes, I had the misfortune to be there. I was trying to inject a little feeble humour into a very depressing week. I'm off out of the country for a couple of weeks and by the time I get back it had better be sorted, or else. And for what it's worth, I thought we were worse than you described. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 Didn't think it was utter crap, not the first 10 minutes or so. For 10 minutes I was expecting us to score, but as the game went on it became apparant that players who knew where the net was last week had short memories because this week they didn't have a clue. As for the second half it was dire, and made worse by incomprehensible subbing of the only two players who looked a real threat. I noticed on the OS that the price Cortese paid to keep Wilkins on board was to promise him a job, otherwise he'd have had no interim manager, but on this basis Wilko should check that he knows where the boot cleaning kit is, 'cos he doesn't seem to have much future in the dugout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 Just back from the game. What a ****ing shambles. From start to finish we we're just plain bad. There is no excuse. None. Today's performance was utter crap. Utter, utter crap. Their heads were down and their spirits too. Individually they might have cared about the game, but collectively they clearly didn't. It is no good Wilkins coming out with asinine comments like : "Today I don't think we were dynamic enough in terms of delivery into the box, and having someone get on the end of it, and that has pretty much cost us [OS]". That could be said of any losing football team in any league or none! We were just bad today. Bad. Really, really bad. There was nothing. So, lads, when I crawl out of my bed on Monday morning at 5.am, travel to work, do my grind to earn in a year what some of you do in 2 weeks, don't be surprised I get ****ed off about your 'performance'. You were ****ing atrocious. Week willed, simpletons. And yet you still get paid... Bet you dont work saturdays or until 9.30 a lot of week nights, especially during the winter like they do though. Stop moaning, you've got it cushty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 4 September, 2010 Author Share Posted 4 September, 2010 I agree with every word you said, and yes, I had the misfortune to be there. I was trying to inject a little feeble humour into a very depressing week. I'm off out of the country for a couple of weeks and by the time I get back it had better be sorted, or else. And for what it's worth, I thought we were worse than you described. Fair play Grandad. Fair play. Apologies for any harsh words. Not happy about the state of our club is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 4 September, 2010 Author Share Posted 4 September, 2010 Bet you dont work saturdays or until 9.30 a lot of week nights, especially during the winter like they do though. Stop moaning, you've got it cushty. You are a Trolling T w a t. F-u-c-k off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 Just back from the game. What a ****ing shambles. From start to finish we we're just plain bad. There is no excuse. None. Today's performance was utter crap. Utter, utter crap. Their heads were down and their spirits too. Individually they might have cared about the game, but collectively they clearly didn't. It is no good Wilkins coming out with asinine comments like : "Today I don't think we were dynamic enough in terms of delivery into the box, and having someone get on the end of it, and that has pretty much cost us [OS]". That could be said of any losing football team in any league or none! We were just bad today. Bad. Really, really bad. There was nothing. So, lads, when I crawl out of my bed on Monday morning at 5.am, travel to work, do my grind to earn in a year what some of you do in 2 weeks, don't be surprised I get ****ed off about your 'performance'. You were ****ing atrocious. Week willed, simpletons. And yet you still get paid... I take your point entirely '76. But i think the blame should be placed at the door of NC rather than the players this time. I think they feel let down by this weeks events and who can blame them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 Just back from the game. What a ****ing shambles. From start to finish we were just plain bad. We weren't that bad in the first half. We started pretty well and kept possession (albeit in unthreatening areas) very well before getting caught on the break. Then when we got caught 2v2 and they managed to get 2 players up in support before we could get any back, it just became obvious they just didn't care enough to track back and work hard for a result. Tactically though the problem first half was the massive hole behind Lambert and Connolly and them not having anyone to lay the ball back to when they got it down. The general attitude was either that we'd pass and pass until the defence was back to organise themselves, then fling a ball in to get cleared, or if Chamberlain had it, fling an early ball in and wonder why no-one's attacked it. Second half we did a smart thing and put Guly on in the hole, and his movement off the ball was excellent in creating space for himself and others (which we didn't really exploit), but the delaying, lack of urgency and lack of penetration was the problem, and bringing the not-often-effective Mills on for the only player who DID have some urgency was possibly the stupidest substitution I've ever seen. Long and short, 22 shots to Rochdale's 5. It keeps happening, and we need more urgency in the play without resorting to whacking it. For about 2 minutes at the start of the second half I thought we'd sussed it - a couple of times we had the chance to thump it but kept passing. There was even a round of applause from the Northam for passing it around at one point, but it soon went and the next 40 minutes were just going-through-the-motions sideways football. Hammond and Schneiderlin are too defensive together, and I think Guly probably needs a more mobile striker than Lambert to give it to up front, as he'll not take advantage of any through balls even if Guly starts to play them once he's settled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 Its funny that some people still applauded them off, the majority of the players just went straight down the tunnel without even thinking about the fans... The applause from the Northam at the end is usually just for Kelvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 I had a great day spent it on the golf course playing in a charity day in aide of Cystic Fibrosis Trust and my team won did not find out the score till I got home, glad I missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickyp Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 thing were back to square one, low in confidence, no direction and most of all a laughing stock again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 You are a Trolling T w a t. F-u-c-k off. I'll take that means that you dont then. Mr Angry. When you have a crap day at work or cant be arsed do your boss or customers post on your company website that 1976_child was **** today and didn't deserve his money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 Fair play Grandad. Fair play. Apologies for any harsh words. Not happy about the state of our club is all. No worries. My big worry is that we've seen all this before. For once, I really thought that we were on the way up but we appear to have slipped backwards at least three months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 This club is riddled to the core with APs woodworm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 I think it's quite easy just to jump on the players backs whenever things aren't going well. However more often than not it's the managers (or in this case lack of) fault. This has been repeated several times in Saints recent history. It's more a case of poor leadership IMO. Premier League - Beattie, Fernandes, Anders, Lundekvam - All excellent under Strachan, then completely hopeless under Wigley. Championship - Rasiak, Skacel, BWP, Dyer - All started off well under Burley, then completely lost form when Burley lost the plot League 1 - Lambert, Puncheon, Schneiderlin, Fonte - All excellent last season, all very average or poor this season. These were all excellent players properly managed, but so often with Saints, the management wasn't there. It's all well and good saying they should be motivated whatever the situation, they are good individually and should therefore win etc. In reality motivation and organisation are the reason you need a managers. If you could just get 11 top class footballers and tell them to go out and play brilliant football, we wouldn't need a manager at all. Leadership was the problem today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerchampion Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 The big problem is with this team they now dont have anybody with any substance to look up to in the changing room . They are league 1 premadonas on poor premiership wages , once on the pitch they take it for granted they are going to win . Teams have got their number now , were a rudderless ship heading for the rocks , with a crew who think the tide will turn , but with nobody at the helm we are going to hit the rocks . If the rumours are true shame the club couldnt keep what happened in Pardews personal life seperate from the running of the club which in my eyes there is a difference . This is not going to be an easy job for any new manager to turn this around within a few weeks , were still missing two quick experienced wingers , a midfielder who doesnt dally on the ball and can make that defence splitting pass to the wingers or fowards . We also need a defensive coach , we have been terrible in defence , statues v Swindon , and today on the break we were very poor being pulled all over the place for their first goal . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 I take your point entirely '76. But i think the blame should be placed at the door of NC rather than the players this time. I think they feel let down by this weeks events and who can blame them. Agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 I was at work and skived off to listen to the match on Radio 5. Pretty annoyed with the score, but that's about it. We'll pick up once we get a manager in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carljack Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 At least it showed they still have some Shame! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chivvy1664 Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 glad i didnt go today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 Not sure you can really blame the players though - can you?Yes you can HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor_Saint Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 glad i didnt go today So are we and thanks for your input. Was not happy with Wilkins statement on Solent today. Blames it on the fact he hasn't got Lallana who scored xx goals last year, and no Barnard who scored xx goals last year. But, hold on a second, he failed to mention the fact he did have Lambert who was top goal scorer last year but has turned out to be a lemon today and the last few days. Buck stops with the manager, regardless of whether or not you've just taken over the role. Would have much preferred him to come out and say "Yup, I f*cked up, shouldn't have sub'd Chamberlain, and I can't wait for someone to take over from me - HELP!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 4 September, 2010 Author Share Posted 4 September, 2010 I was at work and skived off to listen to the match on Radio 5. Pretty annoyed with the score, but that's about it. We'll pick up once we get a manager in. dune - we had a manager in already, and then Rupert Lowe sacked him. .... I'm sorry did I day Lowe? I meant Cortese. Forgive me, but these days it is hard to tell them apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 dune - we had a manager in already, and then Rupert Lowe sacked him. .... I'm sorry did I day Lowe? I meant Cortese. Forgive me, but these days it is hard to tell them apart. It sounded like we were the better side on the radio and they got a smash and grab goal at the end of the first half and scored a screamer. It also sounded like we missed a lot of gilt edged chances. Not really sure you can blame players missing on Wilkins. As for sacking Pardew the timing is the only issue I have with this decision - i'd have sacked him last season as I don't rate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor_Saint Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 It sounded like we were the better side on the radio and they got a smash and grab goal at the end of the first half and scored a screamer. It also sounded like we missed a lot of gilt edged chances. Not really sure you can blame players missing on Wilkins. We had guns but no bullets Those b*stards at Rochdale actually used live rounds and won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 4 September, 2010 Author Share Posted 4 September, 2010 It sounded like we were the better side on the radio and they got a smash and grab goal at the end of the first half and scored a screamer. It also sounded like we missed a lot of gilt edged chances. Not really sure you can blame players missing on Wilkins. As for sacking Pardew the timing is the only issue I have with this decision - i'd have sacked him last season as I don't rate him. dune, I don't believe you heard me blame Wilkins. First goal was so soft it could have been a cashmere pull-over. Second goal was a great goal by them, poorly defended by us. I stood and applauded their second goal. It was good to see some good play; sure as **** we weren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 It sounded like we were the better side on the radio.... On the radio maybe, but on the pitch we weren't. We had lots of possession but Rochdale were completely untroubled. They contained us easily and made the most of their opportunities - top notch away performance that made our "promotion favourites" tag look like a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshephard3 Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 Wilkins comments on Solent were terrible. Blaming it on AL and LB not there. Couldn't believe I was hearing this from a man in charge of SFC. Never claimed we are big dogs but f**king hell when an acting manager has to blame losing 2-0 home to Rochdale on this you know the relatively mighty have well and truly fallen. Failed to enjoy todays game from start to finish as did everyone else I'm sure. Like tractor why does he not say what he's clearly thinking that he cant wait for someone to come and take to position off him for everyone to move onwards and upwards?! In fact why doesn't someone at the club, anyone, actually say what they are clearly thinking?! Even Butterfield made it sound like we played well. I have never seen such a lack of imagination as that 2nd half, just dyer. If the players like Butterfield are satisfied with that you wonder what things are coming to. As for the subbing of AOC, dear oh dear, my mate told me not to sing cos it helps noone, well I hope it helped get the point across that everyone in the Northam could clearly see he was one of the best players on the pitch, nothing against Mills, just a **** poor decision. We have to pay to watch, and right now Wilking is getting paid to lose. AP was getting paid to win more than lose. Better find someone else who can do that pretty sharpish. Almost as angry as the original poster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 It sounded like we were the better side on the radio and they got a smash and grab goal at the end of the first half and scored a screamer. It also sounded like we missed a lot of gilt edged chances. Not really sure you can blame players missing on Wilkins. As for sacking Pardew the timing is the only issue I have with this decision - i'd have sacked him last season as I don't rate him. I didn't go today, opp north for the weekend but watched it on the stream. Puncheon missed a sitter from 4 yards, which would have made it 1-1, their first goal was on the break, second a screamer but after a defensive **** up. After that pretty clueless, no pace, no imagination, everything was pedestrian and slow but most worrying, not a lot of desire from the team. The fact that the same thing has happened in our three home league games is not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 What game was wilkins watching? How could he take chamberlain off? He was the one positive for me in a poor performance. Not sure you can really blame the players though - can you? I dunno!, maybe they could've tried harder and played better?......d'ya reckon that would've helped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor_Saint Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 Wilkins comments on Solent were terrible. Blaming it on AL and LB not there. Couldn't believe I was hearing this from a man in charge of SFC. You seen the OS? The caretaker manager revealed that the team were upset following the game, but believes that they were not far off their usual selves during the match. Hello? What game was he watching? If he thinks their performance was not far off their usual then we've got a HUGE problem with the manager - caretaker or not. This is not the kind of statement I'd expect to see from a manager who'd lost their last two games so convincingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 4 September, 2010 Author Share Posted 4 September, 2010 I dunno!, maybe they could've tried harder and played better?......d'ya reckon that would've helped well on that measure maybe cortese could not have shown pardew the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 well on that measure maybe cortese could not have shown pardew the door....might turn out to be for the best in the long run though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 I blame the players completely for that At the end of the day they've got to motivate themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_barmy_saints_army Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 when u said, their heads were down, their spirits too, i thought u were gonna break into song... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lej Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 All fart and no **** yet again im afraid, all too familiar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 well on that measure maybe cortese could not have shown pardew the door. I wouldn't know as I'm just a supporter who has no knowledge of what goes on inside the club.......do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshephard3 Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 Everything from the club seems to imply everything is rosy, agreed if this is a team not far from themselves it's a worry. Fans can see that's not the case. Lambert didn't spend most of last season with shoulders slumped trudging around failing to win headers. If he had he'd barely have managed one goal let alone the hat full he got. All will be revealed shortly of course with regards the new man, and needs to be, but a statement from the club explining the sacking of AP is be crucial to fan-chairman respect and faith imo. AP brought us a trophy last season, how can the guy be out of a job?! Regardless of MON or anyone else being linked with the job it looks from the outside as if there has been a totally self inflicted shooting in the foot. This will rightly be fans perception unless told the full story. The photo ban and this manager situation combined have made us a joke of late. It makes me sad that something everyone on here is passionate about is considered from the outside to be jokeworthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 Did we get a single shot on target? If so I missed it. Week in week out the most entertaining part of the game is the pre match shooting. Every week there isn't a shot on target and week on week some unfortunate person in the crowd gets clattered. These players do nothing else except play football. Yet they still can't hit the target either before or during the game. What a waste of time and money. I drove a round trip of 250 miles today to watch absolute ****e. Well done Rochdale. Seven years' ago we were in the top four of the Premiership and you were fighting off relegation to the non leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 4 September, 2010 Share Posted 4 September, 2010 Everything from the club seems to imply everything is rosy, agreed if this is a team not far from themselves it's a worry. Fans can see that's not the case. Lambert didn't spend most of last season with shoulders slumped trudging around failing to win headers. If he had he'd barely have managed one goal let alone the hat full he got. All will be revealed shortly of course with regards the new man, and needs to be, but a statement from the club explining the sacking of AP is be crucial to fan-chairman respect and faith imo. AP brought us a trophy last season, how can the guy be out of a job?! Regardless of MON or anyone else being linked with the job it looks from the outside as if there has been a totally self inflicted shooting in the foot. This will rightly be fans perception unless told the full story. The photo ban and this manager situation combined have made us a joke of late. It makes me sad that something everyone on here is passionate about is considered from the outside to be jokeworthy. Well put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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