SNSUN Posted 11 October, 2010 Share Posted 11 October, 2010 Whilst he's probably just making up the numbers, it's not unfeasible that Doble could make a Welsh appearance. Have any other players, Saints or otherwise, ever made first appearance for their country before making their first appearance for their club? Though I've not seen him play, it suprises me that he got a full call up, Wales must be short on strikers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doughnutman Posted 11 October, 2010 Share Posted 11 October, 2010 Chris Baird? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint Posted 11 October, 2010 Share Posted 11 October, 2010 No chris baird didnt make his northern ireland debut until after 2002/2003 season so had already played a few times for saints including the fa cup final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 11 October, 2010 Share Posted 11 October, 2010 (edited) No chris baird didnt make his northern ireland debut until after 2002/2003 season so had already played a few times for saints including the fa cup final Indeed : Games played by Chris Baird in 2002/2003 Goals Cards 22-03-2003 English Premier Southampton 2-2 Aston Villa 0 07-05-2003 English Premier Arsenal 6-1 Southampton 0 11-05-2003 English Premier Man City 0-1 Southampton 0 17-05-2003 English FA Cup Arsenal 1-0 Southampton 0 03-06-2003 International Italy 2-0 N Ireland 0 11-06-2003 European Championships N Ireland 0-0 Spain 0 However : Dinamo Tbilisi's 17-year-old Giorgi Makaridze has the odd distinction of making his international debut before he had even turned out for his club side. Georgia's third-choice goalkeeper started against Scotland in a Euro 2008 qualifier in October 2007 and kept a clean sheet. Oh yeah, and Ryan Green, Wales' youngest international before Lewin Nyatanga broke his record, also made his international debut before playing for his first club, Wolves. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Green. He has 2 caps in the '90s and is now playing for Hereford (who his dad Phil used to play for, IIRC). So Doble wouldn't even be the first Welsh player to do it in his own lifetime - without even getting into all the Cardiff City, Swansea and Wrexham U21 reserves that probably got matches for Wales on summer tours in the 90s. I'd love to see him get a game though, just to see a bit more of him play - they'll need his creativity against that dour Swiss side. Edited 12 October, 2010 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 11 October, 2010 Share Posted 11 October, 2010 Honorable mention to Walcott making his England debut before his Arsenal debut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 October, 2010 Share Posted 12 October, 2010 Honorable mention to Walcott making his England debut before his Arsenal debut. There are loads of players with international caps who've never played in the top league of their country, plenty for England alone. Walcott's 35 minutes as sub against Hungary before Germany 2006 set his international career back about 2 years, he didn't get another kick for England until summer 2008 and his first start for England came in Sep '09 (away to Andorra) which was nearly 3 years after his first start for Arsenal (v Watford in October 2006). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 12 October, 2010 Share Posted 12 October, 2010 Ryan is on the bench tonight in Switzerland, so not just there to make up the numbers in the 20+ squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 12 October, 2010 Share Posted 12 October, 2010 On a related-ish topic... How **** are England? The manager and the vast majority of the players don't have a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 12 October, 2010 Share Posted 12 October, 2010 On a related-ish topic... How **** are England? The manager and the vast majority of the players don't have a clue. What did you expect - Ferdinand is playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 12 October, 2010 Share Posted 12 October, 2010 Its def not a passing game is it, it really is poor and I now want the manager to go! yea we may get the odd win and beat some rubbish but we will never win anything with what just looks like long ball poo. It is so poor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 13 October, 2010 Share Posted 13 October, 2010 (edited) Its def not a passing game is it, it really is poor and I now want the manager to go! yea we may get the odd win and beat some rubbish but we will never win anything with what just looks like long ball poo. It is so poor I don't think that it matters much what manager England have got. English players are consistently found out at international level. It happens too often for it to be just unlucky. Edited 13 October, 2010 by St_Tel49 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntingdon Posted 13 October, 2010 Share Posted 13 October, 2010 On the subject of Wales, did anyone watch their match with Switzerland last night? Gareth Bale has possibly become the best left sided player in world football It's such a shame we couldn't have kept him for longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 13 October, 2010 Share Posted 13 October, 2010 After a die start for Spurs he has become one of their stalwarts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 October, 2010 Share Posted 13 October, 2010 On the subject of Wales, did anyone watch their match with Switzerland last night? Gareth Bale has possibly become the best left sided player in world football It's such a shame we couldn't have kept him for longer keeping him longer in the CCC and one of the best left sided players in world football are self contradictory. You can't keep a world class player in any second division,as we will no doubt find out soon enough with a couple of our present players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 13 October, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 October, 2010 keeping him longer in the CCC and one of the best left sided players in world football are self contradictory. You can't keep a world class player in any second division,as we will no doubt find out soon enough with a couple of our present players. Barring administration, one of the worst things to come out of relegation from the Premiership was losing our talented youngsters. Walcott, Bale and Baird, with Premiership signings, and we'd have been pushing for Europe. The question remains whether they'd have got much game time, but it doesn't bear thinking about how good our team would've been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 13 October, 2010 Share Posted 13 October, 2010 After a dire start for Spurs he has become one of their stalwarts. Hardly particularly resolute, and not massively loyal... he is their best player of the last 9 months by a mile though. Though he still looks like a monkey sat on a fridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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