beatlesaint Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 Interesting quote from NA on the OS - "The big blow is Lee Barnard. he's had two little things going wrong in the groin area, we were hoping to get one settled and the medical team have tried to do that, but we've had to go down another pathway..." That sounds very much like he has had to have a hernia operation to clear things up, failing that sounds like he will be out for a while anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 Interesting quote from NA on the OS - "The big blow is Lee Barnard. he's had two little things going wrong in the groin area, we were hoping to get one settled and the medical team have tried to do that, but we've had to go down another pathway..." That sounds very much like he has had to have a hernia operation to clear things up, failing that sounds like he will be out for a while anyway. Even if he played with a truss and a wooden leg he'd be more effective than Lambert.He's been struggling for quite a while but as we have no options and RLGM is a damp squib this season we've carried on playing him anyway. What is the point of all this talent that we're supposed to have in the development group if it's so ferkin brilliant that even injured senior players are preferable. I am as yet unconvinced that Adkins really knows what he's doing,I think he's pushing the players too hard and they're ****ged out when it matters. The less we play the worse we get, the more we play (ie less "training") the better we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 I am as yet unconvinced that Adkins really knows what he's doing,I think he's pushing the players too hard and they're ****ged out when it matters. The less we play the worse we get, the more we play (ie less "training") the better we are. This is a very interesting point and one worthy of serious debate IMO. We heard all the usual diatribe from Adkins before the game about how the team were so "up for it" and ready...how the rest had done a few players good. And yet we're served up one of the worst performance ever to grace SMS. So perhaps Adkins tinkers with tactics too much - so much that the players just get confused? Or perhaps Puncheons opinions about his ex-manager are the tip of the iceberg and Adkins has lost the changing room? Do we have another Poortvleit on our hands with Adkins - nice guy but doesn't command the respect of the players? One thing is f'sure, something is not right with the camp - there are too many supposedly good players for this league not pulling their weight and not performing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 Interesting quote from NA on the OS - "The big blow is Lee Barnard. he's had two little things going wrong in the groin area, we were hoping to get one settled and the medical team have tried to do that, but we've had to go down another pathway..." That sounds very much like he has had to have a hernia operation to clear things up, failing that sounds like he will be out for a while anyway. Sounds quite painful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 This is a very interesting point and one worthy of serious debate IMO. We heard all the usual diatribe from Adkins before the game about how the team were so "up for it" and ready...how the rest had done a few players good. And yet we're served up one of the worst performance ever to grace SMS. So perhaps Adkins tinkers with tactics too much - so much that the players just get confused? Or perhaps Puncheons opinions about his ex-manager are the tip of the iceberg and Adkins has lost the changing room? Do we have another Poortvleit on our hands with Adkins - nice guy but doesn't command the respect of the players? One thing is f'sure, something is not right with the camp - there are too many supposedly good players for this league not pulling their weight and not performing. You are right about too many players not performing but if you look back at the whole season they werent perfroming under either pardew and / or wilkins and arguable worse. So what the problem is I dont know but lambert, hammond, morgan and harding in particular have lacked form for most of the season. I think we will see changes in jan / the summer as adkins ships out players he doesnt fancy and replaces. For me thats when adkins should be judged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 On another thread there is a poster who claims Barnard had a hernia op last week. If it is true I don't know why we can't be told? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 On another thread there is a poster who claims Barnard had a hernia op last week. If it is true I don't know why we can't be told? Guess he has not had the op then.. Does that help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 Guess he has not had the op then.. Does that help? You don't know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 You don't know that. Why assume the worst Oh yeah, forget.. We don't actually like the club Why on earth is it.."we don't know that" to a RUMOUR that Barnard has had an op... A fecking rumour.. Now you disbelieve the club in the no news is good news line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 Why assume the worst Oh yeah, forget.. We don't actually like the club Why on earth is it.."we don't know that" to a RUMOUR that Barnard has had an op... A fecking rumour.. Now you disbelieve the club in the no news is good news line No I just recognise that people may know more about the club than you. At no point did I say I believed the rumour, just that I'm not prepared to dismiss everything I hear like you simply because we have no cast iron proof. There have been a few rumours that Barnard has had an op with suggestions by Adkins that they have pursued other options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 The same rumpled that Ricky and £2m will get Austin That pardew was tapped up That Lallana has sold his house That pardew banged mrs fonte Yeah.. You can see the success rate in SFC rumpled lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 The same rumpled that Ricky and £2m will get Austin That pardew was tapped up That Lallana has sold his house That pardew banged mrs fonte Yeah.. You can see the success rate in SFC rumpled lol Nope. I look at each individual rumour and decide whether to dismiss it or not unlike you who dismisses everything negative about the club if it is not backed up by a cast iron source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 Nope. I look at each individual rumour and decide whether to dismiss it or not unlike you who dismisses everything negative about the club if it is not backed up by a cast iron source. Since when do I dismiss everything negative Do you just make stuff up to post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 The same rumpled that Ricky and £2m will get Austin That pardew was tapped up That Lallana has sold his house That pardew banged mrs fonte Yeah.. You can see the success rate in SFC rumpled lol I'm not sure that there is a Mrs Fonte,,there is a Ms Sumner however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alejam Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 On another thread there is a poster who claims Barnard had a hernia op last week. If it is true I don't know why we can't be told? Lee has had a hernia op. Spoke to him yesterday before the game. Met him when on the stadium tour before going into the 1885 club. He didn't say how long he will be out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 Originally Posted by Window Cleaner I am as yet unconvinced that Adkins really knows what he's doing,I think he's pushing the players too hard and they're ****ged out when it matters. The less we play the worse we get, the more we play (ie less "training") the better we are. This is a very interesting point and one worthy of serious debate IMO. We heard all the usual diatribe from Adkins before the game about how the team were so "up for it" and ready...how the rest had done a few players good. And yet we're served up one of the worst performance ever to grace SMS. So perhaps Adkins tinkers with tactics too much - so much that the players just get confused? Or perhaps Puncheons opinions about his ex-manager are the tip of the iceberg and Adkins has lost the changing room? Do we have another Poortvleit on our hands with Adkins - nice guy but doesn't command the respect of the players? One thing is f'sure, something is not right with the camp - there are too many supposedly good players for this league not pulling their weight and not performing. Your right, things are not 100% in the camp at present. In this case we had important players in Lambert and Barnard not able to perform because of injuries going back to Pardew. We have a star player in Fonte not available and in Brentford, we met the wrong team at the wrong time. In Brentford we met a young, physical gifted side who worked hard around a simple plan, which we struggled to counter. We had our chances, but we have seen going back to last season, that the midfield including Schiederlin, is just not up to this type of battle. Put Chaplow into the midfield and we may have fared better, but it was going to be a struggle when we neither had Ricky or Barnard to rely upon, Connolley only capable of cameo performances. I don't know what happened with Puncheon, but Adkins kept asking him to play in a manner for the team which he could not deliver. I don't know if there was an attitude problem, but looking back at both of their histories, this seems loaded against Puncheon. As for plan B, Adkins moved the deck chairs around as best as possible, but injuries and suspensions left him down to the bones on this one. When you have a bench which in no way can change a game around, that's when you have no plan B, something not uncommon under Pardew. Yes, this result was poor. Injuries and susensions dictated the team on the pitch and in Brentford, we came up against the wrong team at the wrong time. You still wonder the impact of Kelvin spilling the ball on the eventual outcome, but injuries and suspensions caught up with us against the wrong team yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 On another thread there is a poster who claims Barnard had a hernia op last week. If it is true I don't know why we can't be told? Adkins has said a few times he's not going to advertise any injury problems we have and hand our opponents an unnecessary advantage. Makes sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 Adkins has said a few times he's not going to advertise any injury problems we have and hand our opponents an unnecessary advantage. Makes sense to me. Doesn't make any sense to me,because the opposition are professional football teams and they are usually ITK about most things. In some of his spielges Adkins strikes me as a cross between a doddering schoolmaster, Mary Whitehouse and something out of Dad's Army. I get the impression sometimes that he could bawl out players and it'd be just like stopping their pocket money for a week,unfortunate but not the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 Adkins has said a few times he's not going to advertise any injury problems we have and hand our opponents an unnecessary advantage. Makes sense to me. Worked well yesterday then. If Barnard is telling fans he has had the op it is hardly a trade secret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 Since when do I dismiss everything negative Do you just make stuff up to post? It has been the case every time I have seen you post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 Lee has had a hernia op. Spoke to him yesterday before the game. Met him when on the stadium tour before going into the 1885 club. He didn't say how long he will be out. Delldays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 (edited) Worked well yesterday then. If Barnard is telling fans he has had the op it is hardly a trade secret. must have been a bit of a busy beaver this week then. Hernia op (laparoscopy I suppose) Police station friday, talking to fans yesterday. Busy schedule for someone recovering from an op. Edited 12 December, 2010 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 12 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 12 December, 2010 Problem is IF Barnard has had the operation and is out for a month or so who the hell is going to score our goals ? We have a "choice" of Lambert, Guly and Connolly, possible Chamberlain up front ? Not screaming out "GOAL" is it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 Do we refer to him as Leanne now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethallee Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 Lee has had a hernia op. Spoke to him yesterday before the game. Met him when on the stadium tour before going into the 1885 club. He didn't say how long he will be out. Didn't think they done stadium tours on a matchday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 They done one yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alejam Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 Didn't think they done stadium tours on a matchday They did yesterday! Tour from 12 till 1. Eats and drinks from from 1. Confit of duck..Gorgeous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 This is a very interesting point and one worthy of serious debate IMO. We heard all the usual diatribe from Adkins before the game about how the team were so "up for it" and ready...how the rest had done a few players good. And yet we're served up one of the worst performance ever to grace SMS. So perhaps Adkins tinkers with tactics too much - so much that the players just get confused? Or perhaps Puncheons opinions about his ex-manager are the tip of the iceberg and Adkins has lost the changing room? Do we have another Poortvleit on our hands with Adkins - nice guy but doesn't command the respect of the players? One thing is f'sure, something is not right with the camp - there are too many supposedly good players for this league not pulling their weight and not performing. Interesting theories! We're doomed! Or...5 points off a second placed team who has played an extra game! You may want to actually read up on the definition of the word diatribe before using it in future as well. It is a most cromulent word used in the right context! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 2-3 weeks it is then i expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 Interesting theories! We're doomed! Or...5 points off a second placed team who has played an extra game! You may want to actually read up on the definition of the word diatribe before using it in future as well. It is a most cromulent word used in the right context! Well done. ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 12 December, 2010 Share Posted 12 December, 2010 Well done. ****. Charming. You kiss your sister with that mouth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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