bjk Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 We must bring one of these back now,i dont accept we cant afford to pay one of these players their wages.Surely even Lowe must realise we need an experienced striker alongside Mcgoldrick before its too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 We couldn't bring any of them back now even if we wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjk Posted 10 November, 2008 Author Share Posted 10 November, 2008 Surely we can recall one of our own players at any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 Surely we can recall one of our own players at any time. You'd think so wouldn't you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 Surely we can recall one of our own players at any time. They are on loan until 31st December with no recall agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 Surely we can recall one of our own players at any time. Not really, unless it's agreed as such in the loan agreement. Now Rasiak, can't possibly be like that, they paid him for 2 months whn he was injured and we recall him now-right not on; Saga will be back in January don't doubt it and John has only just left, don't think there was a recall proviso either.He may be back in January, depends if he's valuee for money or if the can see paying him for longer and dobbing us a few quid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefoggy Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 going down without them. What other club on earth would LOAN OUT there best 3 strikers???? fair enough if someone offered big money and we sold them to ease some financial pressure but LOANING OUT to other clubs in the SAME DIVISION???? it beggers belief, it really does... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 Saga's loan runs out in January. We MUST bring him back then. Stick him up front in a 4-4-2 formation and we might just score a few goal, and defend from the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 They still won't get a game though under portaloo, thats why John went on loan because he wasn't given regular starts with the wage he's on. Saga & Rasiak will either sold or loaned out again to get them of the wage bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefoggy Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 They still won't get a game though under portaloo, thats why John went on loan because he wasn't given regular starts with the wage he's on. Saga & Rasiak will either sold or loaned out again to get them of the wage bill. false economy then we can't afford NOT to have them here playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 They still won't get a game though under portaloo, thats why John went on loan because he wasn't given regular starts with the wage he's on. Saga & Rasiak will either sold or loaned out again to get them of the wage bill. Exactly. He was not loaned out because of his wages he was loaned out because he was not in JP's 1st team plans so made no sense to keep paying him if he wont be played. Of course that could all be one giant bull**** where Lowe said dont play him so he could offload him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 Whether we can keep one or not, it's insane to have players loaned out to rivals in this league. Bristol city and watford, IMO will end up in the bottom half, and we're fighting relegation. If we can't afford them, they should be sold. They're out of contract in the summer, so a small fee will do, or even no fee if it's a foreign club. I can't understand how BWP is still collecting his wages while better strikers are on loan. What of Dyer too? He signed a new contract then left. Has he played for Sheff Utd? Is Robertson really more useful?! they weren't sold because no-one wants to buy them. As long as there are Premiership and CCC clubs with plethoric squads and wages bills around there will always be players available on loan without buying them. These guys earn far more than their salary grade, the won't take a cut so we have to take whatever option we can to get them off the pay-roll,albeit temporarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 Whether we can keep one or not, it's insane to have players loaned out to rivals in this league. Bristol city and watford, IMO will end up in the bottom half, and we're fighting relegation. If we can't afford them, they should be sold. They're out of contract in the summer, so a small fee will do, or even no fee if it's a foreign club. I can't understand how BWP is still collecting his wages while better strikers are on loan. What of Dyer too? He signed a new contract then left. Has he played for Sheff Utd? Is Robertson really more useful?! Dyer is getting a few sub runs on with Sheff Utd, haven't a clue how well he's doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 We must bring one of these back now,i dont accept we cant afford to pay one of these players their wages.Surely even Lowe must realise we need an experienced striker alongside Mcgoldrick before its too late. Alongside White would be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 Dyer is getting a few sub runs on with Sheff Utd, haven't a clue how well he's doing. Row Z at Bramall Lane are getting a lot of catching practise from his crosses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogman Of Bassett Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 I think you will find when we sell Spiderman / Lalana / Surman in January, that will free up the funds to pay the wages of one of our on loan strikers, who we currently cannot afford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 We have the experienced strike playing in the team in the form of Jason Euell. He's a striker, n'est pas although he seems to play a lot in mid field. I've been certain all along that we'd recall one or two of our loan players in January and send out one or two youngsters on loan to other clubs. Jan is following a plan of blooding as many youngsters as possible either to get us eventually promoted or to put them in the position to be sold at a big fat profit. Sadly I suspect the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExSt Peter Saint Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 Dyer is getting a few sub runs on with Sheff Utd, haven't a clue how well he's doing. I just had a look on Sheff Utd website and he's only come on 3 times as a sub so far - not even on the bench this weekend. So obviously not setting the place on fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 Whether we can keep one or not, it's insane to have players loaned out to rivals in this league. Bristol city and watford, IMO will end up in the bottom half, and we're fighting relegation. If we can't afford them, they should be sold. They're out of contract in the summer, so a small fee will do, or even no fee if it's a foreign club. I can't understand how BWP is still collecting his wages while better strikers are on loan. What of Dyer too? He signed a new contract then left. Has he played for Sheff Utd? Is Robertson really more useful?! It may be insane but it is real life. After relegation plan A was to use the parachute payment to get back up to the Premiership and quick. There may have been a plan B but the change at board level meant that we pretty much extended Plan A to the point where our financial viability was threatened. Plan C is to get rid of the high earners and develop the youngsters. If we go down with that strategy then so be it but we do not have any real choices. Hopefully we will do enough to just about stay up and build from there. This team a year on could be quite useful whatever division they are in. The vast majority of fans are rightly ****ed off because they want instant success but once you have a plan, you have to stick with it. Particularly when the choices are so limited! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 Row Z at Bramall Lane are getting a lot of catching practise from his crosses. he can't kick it as far as row Z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 Dyer is getting a few sub runs on with Sheff Utd, haven't a clue how well he's doing. Surely the point is he was poor for us and getting worse. He and BWP seemed unable to co-exist at the club and Nathan was probably the only one we were ever seriously going to get offers for. Hopefully he can get his head straight at Sheffield. Robertson has not really had a chance to shine for us yet apart from his wonder goal but looked useful in the limited sightings I have had. I would certainly rather have him than Dyer at this point in time. Long term, I hope Dyer returns eventually and can get back to his form immediately prior to last seasons injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 not that fussed if any of them come back to be honest. We can't afford their wages and will they want to be here? Stern JOhn didn;t look like he could be arsed, Rasiak only comes back to pick up his summer wages and Saga was our own Scott Dobie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 Rasiak is on loan until the end of the season, when his contract here expires and will not be renewed. We have seen the last of him in a Saints shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 Rasiak is on loan until the end of the season, when his contract here expires and will not be renewed. We have seen the last of him in a Saints shirt. Think he's got another year. He signed a four year contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 Think he's got another year. He signed a four year contract. Did he? Ok, I thought that was just Skacel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 Rasiak is on loan until the end of the season, when his contract here expires and will not be renewed. We have seen the last of him in a Saints shirt. Rasiak's contract expires in 2010. He signed a 4-year deal when his move from Spurs became permanent in the summer of 2006. FWIW, I agree with ART... we have an experienced player on our books who has played significant parts of his career as a striker in Jason Euell. He's not particularly prolific, but he certainly works hard and has the pace, strength and stamina to be a real asset in this division. It seems it's just a case of keeping him fit at the moment... For me, Euell was the main reason for McGoldrick's massive improvement in the Coventry game in terms of his workrate and running off the ball. He was providing DMG with an outlet when the ball was played up to him by getting forward very quickly to support him and often made runs beyond him which is always very difficult to defend against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 going down without them. What other club on earth would LOAN OUT there best 3 strikers???? fair enough if someone offered big money and we sold them to ease some financial pressure but LOANING OUT to other clubs in the SAME DIVISION???? it beggers belief, it really does... You do know they were loaned out to get of the wage budget as well as loan fee's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 Rasiak's contract expires in 2010. He signed a 4-year deal when his move from Spurs became permanent in the summer of 2006. FWIW, I agree with ART... we have an experienced player on our books who has played significant parts of his career as a striker in Jason Euell. He's not particularly prolific, but he certainly works hard and has the pace, strength and stamina to be a real asset in this division. It seems it's just a case of keeping him fit at the moment... For me, Euell was the main reason for McGoldrick's massive improvement in the Coventry game in terms of his workrate and running off the ball. He was providing DMG with an outlet when the ball was played up to him by getting forward very quickly to support him and often made runs beyond him which is always very difficult to defend against. Fair enough. That is terrible buisness sense though. Offering a player a deal that long and on that much money, which expires 3 years after the parachute payments end. Agree about Euell. HCDAJFU up front, if we were playing a 4-4-2 formation. So could Skacel, playing just off the main striker. Yet for some reason we seem to be doing the one thing that definitely wont work, playing DMG up front on his own, with Lallana in the hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 It's my opinion that were Leon Crouch still Chairman at least one of Rasiak , John or Saganowski would still be at the club - with LC paying their wages from his own pocket if necessary . Needless to say that's not a very likely eventuality with Lowe & Wilde calling the shots . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowsaintsfan Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 Id rather see Saga back if i had the choice of the 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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