Things That are Racist

[Turkish]

39 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I wonder how deep she will dig into her pocket to pony up some reparations?

It’s sounds like she came from a very privileged background herself rather than this poor girl who had it all so tough. A family heritage of rich land owners who had multiple slaves and were then handed the equivalent of £20m in the 18th century when slavery was abolished. I actually quite like her but seems like she’s another one whose story doesn’t actually match her reality 

[Sarnia Cherie]

2 minutes ago, Turkish said:

It’s sounds like she came from a very privileged background herself rather than this poor girl who had it all so tough. A family heritage of rich land owners who had multiple slaves and were then handed the equivalent of £20m in the 18th century when slavery was abolished. I actually quite like her but seems like she’s another one whose story doesn’t actually match her reality 

I don't believe in paying anything to anybody in regards to slavery. It is history. It was of its time. That's what the world was like back then. Instead of everlasting digging up the past and finding fault, let's look to the present and learn from past mistakes because there are more than enough problems these days to occupy us. 

[Turkish]

6 minutes ago, Sarnia Cherie said:

I don't believe in paying anything to anybody in regards to slavery. It is history. It was of its time. That's what the world was like back then. Instead of everlasting digging up the past and finding fault, let's look to the present and learn from past mistakes because there are more than enough problems these days to occupy us. 

Especially now it turns out we don’t know who owes who for the reparations! Wonder if Lenny Henry will be knocking on her door asking for a few quid.

[badgerx16]

8 minutes ago, Sarnia Cherie said:

I don't believe in paying anything to anybody in regards to slavery. It is history. It was of its time. That's what the world was like back then. Instead of everlasting digging up the past and finding fault, let's look to the present and learn from past mistakes because there are more than enough problems these days to occupy us. 

If the Brutish have to pay reparations for slavery, will the descendants of the Arab slavers, or even Italy for the Romans ?

[egg]

1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

Why does anyone get upset about something their ancestors did before they were born? Bizarre thing to get hung up about 

I'm not so sure. If people can feel proud of their ancestors, it follows that they can feel embarrassed or upset about their behaviour. Sure, it shouldn't impact their lives, but it's strange to say that people can't feel upset about it. 

[egg]

15 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

If the Brutish have to pay reparations for slavery, will the descendants of the Arab slavers, or even Italy for the Romans ?

Yep. Accept the past, learn from it, move in. 

[whelk]

Just now, egg said:

I'm not so sure. If people can feel proud of their ancestors, it follows that they can feel embarrassed or upset about their behaviour. Sure, it shouldn't impact their lives, but it's strange to say that people can't feel upset about it. 

So the fucking Germans and Japanese have a massive problem?

[aintforever]

26 minutes ago, Sarnia Cherie said:

I don't believe in paying anything to anybody in regards to slavery. It is history. It was of its time. That's what the world was like back then. Instead of everlasting digging up the past and finding fault, let's look to the present and learn from past mistakes because there are more than enough problems these days to occupy us. 

Totally agree. But part of that learning process must be accepting what was wrong as well.

[egg]

5 minutes ago, whelk said:

So the fucking Germans and Japanese have a massive problem?

I'm not talking generally. The point was regarding a persons direct family. If my old man's dad was an axe murdering madman, I wouldn't feel too proud about him. That his generation flattened Dresden doesn't make me want to hang my head in shame though. 

Edited 6 hours ago by egg

[hypochondriac]

4 minutes ago, egg said:

I'm not so sure. If people can feel proud of their ancestors, it follows that they can feel embarrassed or upset about their behaviour. Sure, it shouldn't impact their lives, but it's strange to say that people can't feel upset about it. 

Of course someone can feel upset about it. I just think it's a waste of time and effort when you're not responsible in any way and literally nothing you can do about it. If I found out something like that about a distant ancestor I'd be interested but I'd also recognise how far removed they are from me. 

[hypochondriac]

3 minutes ago, egg said:

I'm not talking generally. The point was regarding a persons direct family. If my old man's dad was an axe murdering madman, I wouldn't feel too proud about him. That his generation flattened Dresden doesn't make me want to hang my head in shame though. 

I think this Alex Scott thing is an old story but in her case it was her great great great great grandfather from the early 1800s. It's slightly more understandable if it's your grandad, not least because there's a fair chance you will have met and interacted with them. 

[Sarnia Cherie]

10 minutes ago, egg said:

I'm not talking generally. The point was regarding a persons direct family. If my old man's dad was an axe murdering madman, I wouldn't feel too proud about him. That his generation flattened Dresden doesn't make me want to hang my head in shame though. 

They flattened plenty of our country. As John Cleese said 'You started it!'

[iansums]

39 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

If the Brutish have to pay reparations for slavery, will the descendants of the Arab slavers, or even Italy for the Romans ?

Slavery is one the oldest industries in the world, practiced all over the world, where on earth would you start with reparations?

[iansums]

22 minutes ago, aintforever said:

Totally agree. But part of that learning process must be accepting what was wrong as well.

Including keeping some statues.

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, iansums said:

Including keeping some statues.

Its comments like aintforevers are funny. We must accept what was wrong. Has anyone ever met a single person who has said “you know what we should do? Bring back slaves, that’ll sort things out”

We can accept slavery was wrong without giving ourselves 50 lashes every day. Black people can also accept slavery was wrong without using it as an excuse for their struggles what happened 5 generations ago and demanding compensation. Wouldn’t that in itself be racist? “Youre black, your ancestors must have been slaves, you must hate your life here have £100k for your suffering.”