um pahars Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 On the day when the dust is settling on the farce that is Southampton FC, Pearson delivers another win and sits proudly at the top of the table. Many could not believe he was ousted to make way for Poortvliet, ousted for a failure who left this team in the relegation zone likely to swap places with Leicester come May. But of course he wouldn't have wanted to play youngsters, nor would he have wanted to use loan players:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Here's his side today: 4 loanees 11 of the squad are 23 or under (7 are 20 or under) Martin - 23 (on loan) Gilbert - 21 (on loan) Morrison - 20 Hobbs - 20 (on loan) Berner - 31 Oakley - 31 Andy King - 20 Cleverley - 19 (on loan) Dyer - 26 Fryatt - 22 Howard - 32 Subs: Pentney - No age or data (but young) Chambers - 18 Gradel - 21 Mattock - 18 Dickov - 134 And we can six months of fcking Poortvliet and now Wotte. Lowe's decision making ability has gone to fck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exit2 Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 dickov - 134 lmao! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 Pearson is another one that got away. I hope Rupert is proud of himself. Actually, not much point in saying that, he would be proud of himself regardless of what he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 It was never about his ability to look after youth... always about Lowe's grand strategy (FAILED) of Dutch Totally Crap Football. Lowe is a fantasist. He HAS FAILED. You're a loser Rupert, always were. We don't need losers here anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 But we couldn't afford Pearson's wages and he is only good because he has spent £200m on building a Leicester squad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 Lowe is a fantasist. He HAS FAILED. You're a loser Rupert, always were. We don't need losers here anymore. Don't waste your breath, He is only judgable by one person, himself, and in his own eyes he is infalable. Would be better off getting blood from a stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 And to think last season i actually felt sorry for Leicester fans when they went down. Guess we will changing places come May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 But of course he wouldn't have wanted to play youngsters, nor would he have wanted to use loan players This was the bit that always annoyed me about the whole affair. Pearson was actually EXACTLY the sort of manager Lowe had always espoused as his favoured way forward (except when he was having tangerine dreams). Young English manager, experienced working with youngsters. Look at NP's CV, it covers his involvement with the England set up at every level up to and including u21. This suggests to me that even the old Blazer Brigade at the FA recognise that this guy knows how to work with young talent. Even if you don't believe he has any other talent then this is a given in my opinion. One day perhaps Lowe will look back and realise what a prize ***** he is for letting go one of the brightest prospects in English league football at the moment, just so he could experiment with the Cloggers. And I didn't even cover the loanees.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 And to think last season i actually felt sorry for Leicester fans when they went down. Guess we will changing places come May. They have a bright future, we don't. I wish I was born in Leicester (or raised somewhere with a better footballing outlook then Southampton.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 Are you seriously trying to say there were better loanees available than Pekhart, Robertson and Gasmi and that we could have used our money better than by signing Pulis, Smith and Forecast? Do you all live in Cloud Cuckoo land or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 I think this argument is all but over - it was clearly a calamitous error allowing Pearson to leave and I'd be surprised if there are many left on here who'd disagree . I think we all know where the responsibility for this lies . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Englesaint Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 Are you seriously trying to say there were better loanees available than Pekhart, Robertson and Gasmi and that we could have used our money better than by signing Pulis, Smith and Forecast? Do you all live in Cloud Cuckoo land or something? My my, . . . he can spot a player that Mr Lowe. Great deals all round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 On the day when the dust is settling on the farce that is Southampton FC, Pearson delivers another win and sits proudly at the top of the table. Many could not believe he was ousted to make way for Poortvliet, ousted for a failure who left this team in the relegation zone likely to swap places with Leicester come May. But of course he wouldn't have wanted to play youngsters, nor would he have wanted to use loan players:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Here's his side today: 4 loanees 11 of the squad are 23 or under (7 are 20 or under) Martin - 23 (on loan) Gilbert - 21 (on loan) Morrison - 20 Hobbs - 20 (on loan) Berner - 31 Oakley - 31 Andy King - 20 Cleverley - 19 (on loan) Dyer - 26 Fryatt - 22 Howard - 32 Subs: Pentney - No age or data (but young) Chambers - 18 Gradel - 21 Mattock - 18 Dickov - 134 And we can six months of fcking Poortvliet and now Wotte. Lowe's decision making ability has gone to fck. As damning an indictment of Lowe's judgement as you can get........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 This was the bit that always annoyed me about the whole affair. Pearson was actually EXACTLY the sort of manager Lowe had always espoused as his favoured way forward (except when he was having tangerine dreams). Young English manager, experienced working with youngsters. Look at NP's CV, it covers his involvement with the England set up at every level up to and including u21. This suggests to me that even the old Blazer Brigade at the FA recognise that this guy knows how to work with young talent. Even if you don't believe he has any other talent then this is a given in my opinion. One day perhaps Lowe will look back and realise what a prize ***** he is for letting go one of the brightest prospects in English league football at the moment, just so he could experiment with the Cloggers. And I didn't even cover the loanees.... Spot on, Vectis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rover Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 I'm really pleased for Pearson - he seemed a decent, straight forward and honest guy. A football man through and through. Right now I actually feel glad that he didn't stick around long enough for Lowe to be able to f*ck up his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 24 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 January, 2009 lmao! I couldn't be bothered to look up his age, surely he must knocking 40!!!!!! I have no idea how that Leicester squad has been put together, but I'm guessing it didn't cost much and I certainly don't remember many (if any) big signings. That team was not far off the one that won at Yeovil (which I think was maybe even younger) and it shows that Pearson is moulding together a successful team blending youth, loanees with a couple of wise old heads. We on the other hand................................. I don't long to be a Leicester fan, I don't long to swap places with them, but on a day when our Club has been pssed over I thought I would highlight the poor decision making skills of our CEO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 Words fail me to describe my anger towards Lowe for his experiment at the expense of missing out on keeping NP and potentially any sort of stability to keep us in the championship. Sheer school playground mentality. Well Lowe do you think you got it right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibbons Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 On the day when the dust is settling on the farce that is Southampton FC, Pearson delivers another win and sits proudly at the top of the table. Many could not believe he was ousted to make way for Poortvliet, ousted for a failure who left this team in the relegation zone likely to swap places with Leicester come May. But of course he wouldn't have wanted to play youngsters, nor would he have wanted to use loan players:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Here's his side today: 4 loanees 11 of the squad are 23 or under (7 are 20 or under) Martin - 23 (on loan) Gilbert - 21 (on loan) Morrison - 20 Hobbs - 20 (on loan) Berner - 31 Oakley - 31 Andy King - 20 Cleverley - 19 (on loan) Dyer - 26 Fryatt - 22 Howard - 32 Subs: Pentney - No age or data (but young) Chambers - 18 Gradel - 21 Mattock - 18 Dickov - 134 And we can six months of fcking Poortvliet and now Wotte. Lowe's decision making ability has gone to fck. I spoke to Gordon Watson before xmas he said 750 k spent and over 2 mil in ........both were gutted not to be at st marys this season...bet not that gutted now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP Saint Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 I couldn't be bothered to look up his age, surely he must knocking 40!!!!!! I have no idea how that Leicester squad has been put together, but I'm guessing it didn't cost much and I certainly don't remember many (if any) big signings. That team was not far off the one that won at Yeovil (which I think was maybe even younger) and it shows that Pearson is moulding together a successful team blending youth, loanees with a couple of wise old heads. We on the other hand................................. I don't long to be a Leicester fan, I don't long to swap places with them, but on a day when our Club has been pssed over I thought I would highlight the poor decision making skills of our CEO. Quite .... and the Dutch experiment continues. Lowe doesn't make mistakes, it's just that the world doesn't always move in the way that he instructs it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 On the day when the dust is settling on the farce that is Southampton FC, Pearson delivers another win and sits proudly at the top of the table. Many could not believe he was ousted to make way for Poortvliet, ousted for a failure who left this team in the relegation zone likely to swap places with Leicester come May. But of course he wouldn't have wanted to play youngsters, nor would he have wanted to use loan players:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Here's his side today: 4 loanees 11 of the squad are 23 or under (7 are 20 or under) Martin - 23 (on loan) Gilbert - 21 (on loan) Morrison - 20 Hobbs - 20 (on loan) Berner - 31 Oakley - 31 Andy King - 20 Cleverley - 19 (on loan) Dyer - 26 Fryatt - 22 Howard - 32 Subs: Pentney - No age or data (but young) Chambers - 18 Gradel - 21 Mattock - 18 Dickov - 134 And we can six months of fcking Poortvliet and now Wotte. Lowe's decision making ability has gone to fck. players well above that league! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 (edited) players well above that league! jack hobbs is on loan from liverpool (as is martin I think) gilbert is on loan from arsenal.. they should be in for auto promotion with what they have to hand Edited 24 January, 2009 by Thedelldays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 24 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 January, 2009 players well above that league! Four of those players were there when they got relegated though. Oakley, Fryatt and Howard are probably Championship standard, Dickov is as old as me and Dyer came on a free from MK Dons (26 and played just over 100 league games in the lower divisions does not sound like someone well above that league). But what Pearson has done is augmented the good and experienced players with youngsters and loanees and put together a team that are doing very, very well. However, the main thrust of my post was not saying that Pearson was some sort of wonder manager, merely laying waste to the falsehood that Pearson would have cost too much because he would have demanded to play experienced pros and would not have played youngsters, nor would he have settled for loanees. Pearson's wages weren't too excessive and he has shown at Leicester that he is able to put together a team that hasn't cost the earth and has a very strong youth element to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 Four of those players were there when they got relegated though. Oakley, Fryatt and Howard are probably Championship standard, Dickov is as old as me and Dyer came on a free from MK Dons (26 and played just over 100 league games in the lower divisions does not sound like someone well above that league). But what Pearson has done is augmented the good and experienced players with youngsters and loanees and put together a team that are doing very, very well. However, the main thrust of my post was not saying that Pearson was some sort of wonder manager, merely laying waste to the falsehood that Pearson would have cost too much because he would have demanded to play experienced pros and would not have played youngsters, nor would he have settled for loanees. Pearson's wages weren't too excessive and he has shown at Leicester that he is able to put together a team that hasn't cost the earth and has a very strong youth element to it. i see what you mean..but to be successful in a league when you have better players than most does not mean he would have been much better here...granted would have done better than jan...but I would like to think we could have and should have aimed a tad higher...getting in a billy davies (who was available)..i know what you are getting at that pearson was here...but I would have been happy for change for davies if you get me I will of course eat my words if pearson emulates gary johnsons first season in the CCC next season (and im sure he will get more to spend than johnson at a far bigger club).. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 25 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 25 January, 2009 i see what you mean..but to be successful in a league when you have better players than most does not mean he would have been much better here...granted would have done better than jan...but I would like to think we could have and should have aimed a tad higher...getting in a billy davies (who was available)..i know what you are getting at that pearson was here...but I would have been happy for change for davies if you get me I will of course eat my words if pearson emulates gary johnsons first season in the CCC next season (and im sure he will get more to spend than johnson at a far bigger club).. Whether he would have been better or worse is purely hypothetical as it well never be able to be proved either way, just as it is impossible to claim or counter claim that anyone should be able to get promotion with the resources he has at hand. Those arguments can only be put down to what your own opinion and viewpoint is (although I would argue that any fcker could have done better than Jan, even with what he to hand). But there is no way that Lowe/Cowen/Wilde can say that Pearson would not be prepared to work with youngsters, that he would not be prepared to make do with short term loans and that he would have cost alot because he can only work with experienced pros, because his approach at leicester this season seems to demonstrate that he is up for all of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 Whether he would have been better or worse is purely hypothetical as it well never be able to be proved either way, just as it is impossible to claim or counter claim that anyone should be able to get promotion with the resources he has at hand. Those arguments can only be put down to what your own opinion and viewpoint is (although I would argue that any fcker could have done better than Jan, even with what he to hand). But there is no way that Lowe/Cowen/Wilde can say that Pearson would not be prepared to work with youngsters, that he would not be prepared to make do with short term loans and that he would have cost alot because he can only work with experienced pros, because his approach at leicester this season seems to demonstrate that he is up for all of those. fair point.. on a personal note...i was quite eager for pearson to go as I did not think he was much good.. was not conteplating jan and this stupid set up...thought we were beyond that..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 Obviously the quality of Leicesters squad plays a large part in why they are where they are. However I don't think it comes close to accounting for why they're 12 points clear of 3rd place, with a game in hand, 2/3 of the way into the season. The players highlighted by NickG are NOT well above that League: Steve Howard is an old cart horse. How anyone can say he is too good for L1 is beyond me. Dickov is 36 FFS. It's like saying Fowler was too good for CCC when he was sitting in the physio room being outscored by Saganowski last season. Oakley and Fryatt are CCC standard, but hardly stand-out players. Dyer I don't know much about but I'll take your word for it. As for having loans from Liverpool and Arse... we've had Hammill and O'Halloran on loan from CL chasing sides. Doesn't mean they were good (I'm not saying Leicesters loans aren't). Basically I'm trying to say; 'Yes Leicester have a good squad with some tallented players, but as Burley so painfully proved, this doesn't guarantee success. Pearson is the real reason they are so good IMO.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 The reasons given for Pearson leaving were of course pure B U L L S H I T !!! (as are the reasons given for Jan leaving, Sturrock leaving, WGS leaving etc etc) It wasn't.... because Pearson didn't work with youth because Pearson was too expensive (did they offer him a contract on reduced money ? No) It was because he was not appointed by Lowe because Lowe wanted to dazzle the world with his Dutch dream. How I miss Scooby with his Bootboy vs The Golden Duo stuff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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