What Is Happening To Our Country?

[badgerx16]

3 hours ago, The Wyvern said:

What about in the UK? That’s what this thread is about. And the most recent are all left wing or islamic aren’t they. 

How "recent" are the "most recent" ?

2nd August 2025, a female teenager described as a "neo-nazi white supremacist" attempted to behead a Kurdish barber in Bristol. She was jailed for over 19 years earlier this year.

2nd April 2024, a "white nationalist" motivated by "extreme racial views" stabbed an asylum seeker. He was jailed for life.

https://www.cps.gov.uk/national-news/news/updated-extreme-right-wing-terrorist-convicted-planning-gun-attack

 

And for what it's worth this is an AI summary;

"Recent UK counterterrorism data shows that extreme right-wing threats make up about 25% of the domestic terror landscape, while left-wing and anarchist attacks remain rare"

Edited 2 hours ago by badgerx16

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, The Wyvern said:

What about in the UK? That’s what this thread is about. And the most recent are all left wing or islamic aren’t they. 

No, they aren’t. They really aren’t. In addition to the cases @badgerx16 posted:

https://www.birminghamdispatch.co.uk/raise-the-colours-founder-charged-with-murder/
https://www.facebook.com/LTVBirmingham/videos/police-are-investigating-after-a-man-suffered-a-broken-leg-during-confrontations/2541157639646489/

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/watch-raise-colours-thug-hits-33955049

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crmpejxlm7do

https://www.counterterrorism.police.uk/news/extreme-right-wing-group-sentenced-to-29-years-for-planning-terrorist-attack-in-west-yorkshire/

I think this is the case Badger cited https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7vddrjjgr0o

All UK and all in the last 2 years. The far left one in that time is the accused in the Widecombe case and in Feb 2024 a group of anarchists were arrested for bomb plots albeit they weren’t left/right intention and more anti-capitalist.

[The Wyvern]

2 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

No, they aren’t. They really aren’t. In addition to the cases @badgerx16 posted:

https://www.birminghamdispatch.co.uk/raise-the-colours-founder-charged-with-murder/
https://www.facebook.com/LTVBirmingham/videos/police-are-investigating-after-a-man-suffered-a-broken-leg-during-confrontations/2541157639646489/

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/watch-raise-colours-thug-hits-33955049

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crmpejxlm7do

https://www.counterterrorism.police.uk/news/extreme-right-wing-group-sentenced-to-29-years-for-planning-terrorist-attack-in-west-yorkshire/

I think this is the case Badger cited https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7vddrjjgr0o

All UK and all in the last 2 years. The far left one in that time is the accused in the Widecombe case and in Feb 2024 a group of anarchists were arrested for bomb plots albeit they weren’t left/right intention and more anti-capitalist.

So still nowhere close to the Islamic threat. Glad we’ve confirmed that. 

[badgerx16]

4 minutes ago, The Wyvern said:

So still nowhere close to the Islamic threat. Glad we’ve confirmed that. 

So you accept that they are not " all left wing or Islamic" ?

[The Wyvern]

3 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

So you accept that they are not " all left wing or Islamic" ?

🤣 That’s all you’ve got left of your argument. Ok, for your sake, we’re all in agreement that the vast majority are left wing or Islamist. Hope you’re happy now. 

[badgerx16]

10 minutes ago, The Wyvern said:

🤣 That’s all you’ve got left of your argument. Ok, for your sake, we’re all in agreement that the vast majority are left wing or Islamist. Hope you’re happy now. 

What colour is the sky in your imaginary world ?

[aintforever]

14 minutes ago, The Wyvern said:

🤣 That’s all you’ve got left of your argument. Ok, for your sake, we’re all in agreement that the vast majority are left wing or Islamist. Hope you’re happy now. 

What has Islamist violence got to do with left wing violence?

[The Wyvern]

7 minutes ago, aintforever said:

What has Islamist violence got to do with left wing violence?

Follow the thread. It was in response to Gloucester Saint’s post where he’s was comparing right wing violence to left wing and jihadists in the US, I brought it back to the UK. 

That said, it’s left-wingers that have wanted continued Muslim immigration to the UK, so you could definitely tie the two together that way, you don’t get one without the other. 

[Farmer Saint]

10 minutes ago, The Wyvern said:

Follow the thread. It was in response to Gloucester Saint’s post where he’s was comparing right wing violence to left wing and jihadists in the US, I brought it back to the UK. 

That said, it’s left-wingers that have wanted continued Muslim immigration to the UK, so you could definitely tie the two together that way, you don’t get one without the other. 

Sorry, which left-wingers have wanted continued Muslim immigration to the UK? I've never seen or heard anyone say that.

[The Wyvern]

12 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Sorry, which left-wingers have wanted continued Muslim immigration to the UK? I've never seen or heard anyone say that.

So left wingers have campaigned for stopping Muslim immigration into this country? Please show evidence. 

[egg]

3 minutes ago, The Wyvern said:

So left wingers have campaigned for stopping Muslim immigration into this country? Please show evidence. 

That's a different point. 

He asked "which left-wingers have wanted continued Muslim immigration to the UK?"

I'd like to know the answer to. 

 

[The Wyvern]

1 minute ago, egg said:

That's a different point. 

He asked "which left-wingers have wanted continued Muslim immigration to the UK?"

I'd like to know the answer to. 

 

It’s the same point. I’ll put it to you, do you want continued Muslim immigration into the uk, yes or no? 

[egg]

Just now, The Wyvern said:

It’s the same point. I’ll put it to you, do you want continued Muslim immigration into the uk, yes or no? 

It isn't. It's a different point. 

You seem like another poster (or login) who answers a question with an unrelated answer, or a question. 

Farmers question remains unanswered. 

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, The Wyvern said:

So still nowhere close to the Islamic threat. Glad we’ve confirmed that. 

Correct.

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, The Wyvern said:

🤣 Ok, for your sake, we’re all in agreement that the vast majority are far right wing or Islamist. Hope you’re happy now. 

Corrected to align with the actual home office and police data.

[Gloucester Saint]

10 minutes ago, The Wyvern said:

It’s the same point. I’ll put it to you, do you want continued Muslim immigration into the uk, yes or no? 

Depends on who it is. Undocumented people via the back of trucks and boats - no. Clearly. No-one bar a few nutters in the Greens and Corbyn’s stump wants that.

If it’s a cancer scientist or engineer from Gaza carrying on their career, publishing, training our apprentices and PhD students then taking that professional development to help rebuild Gaza and due diligence can be feasibly done by say British Council then case by case for me.