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1 minute ago, Whitey Grandad said:

That would be fairer.

I get the loyalty and rewarding the regular away attendance thing and of course I understand that argument. First come first served, of ballot would open up away games on a fairer basis I would think. Resigned myself to never having a decent away day again…cup or play off final aside.

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2 minutes ago, LeBizzier69 said:

I get the loyalty and rewarding the regular away attendance thing and of course I understand that argument. First come first served, of ballot would open up away games on a fairer basis I would think. Resigned myself to never having a decent away day again…cup or play off final aside.

I agree. It's similar with the England matches. You can't go unless you've gone before. Surely a fairer system would be to say that you can't go if you have been before.

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20 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

That would be fairer.

Don't be silly. There are some who literally go to every game, regardless of distance,  kick off time, how shit we're playing, those fans deserve to be ahead of others just because someone else fancies an away day in London once a year. 

To compromise I'd say make 80% of tickets based on loyalty and 20% to a ballot of season ticket holders / members 

If fans want to build up away credits just got to go to less desirable trips when opportunity arises, there will be several aways that make it to that. 

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54 minutes ago, Football Special said:

Don't be silly. There are some who literally go to every game, regardless of distance,  kick off time, how shit we're playing, those fans deserve to be ahead of others just because someone else fancies an away day in London once a year. 

To compromise I'd say make 80% of tickets based on loyalty and 20% to a ballot of season ticket holders / members 

If fans want to build up away credits just got to go to less desirable trips when opportunity arises, there will be several aways that make it to that. 

I agree the current system of allocating away tickets if fair - award those who traveled the most 1st dibs on tickets . I’d even go further and say season ticket holders with 10 away games , Members with 10 away games . Etc , that way members who goto away games would benefit too .

The only issue is those fans who selfishly buy a tickets for away games , suddenly Cant go and sell them , just to build up their credits . 
 

The club need to put a stop to this .

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, LeBizzier69 said:

I get the loyalty and rewarding the regular away attendance thing and of course I understand that argument. First come first served, of ballot would open up away games on a fairer basis I would think. Resigned myself to never having a decent away day again…cup or play off final aside.

Perhaps if you went to a few “ less decent “ away games it would give you a better chance of a “ decent “ away game 

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1 hour ago, IFHP said:

I agree the current system of allocating away tickets if fair - award those who traveled the most 1st dibs on tickets . I’d even go further and say season ticket holders with 10 away games , Members with 10 away games . Etc , that way members who goto away games would benefit too .

The only issue is those fans who selfishly buy a tickets for away games , suddenly Cant go and sell them , just to build up their credits . 
 

The club need to put a stop to this .

 

 

 

There’s not really a way of stopping it though, especially if people aren’t selling them on. Except from doing pick ups for every away match which just won’t happen for logistical/cost reasons. 

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2 hours ago, Football Special said:

Don't be silly. There are some who literally go to every game, regardless of distance,  kick off time, how shit we're playing, those fans deserve to be ahead of others just because someone else fancies an away day in London once a year. 

To compromise I'd say make 80% of tickets based on loyalty and 20% to a ballot of season ticket holders / members 

If fans want to build up away credits just got to go to less desirable trips when opportunity arises, there will be several aways that make it to that. 

That's ok for those young unattached without responsibilities. Other fan types are available. 

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1 hour ago, IFHP said:

Perhaps if you went to a few “ less decent “ away games it would give you a better chance of a “ decent “ away game 

This. We're nowhere near at the point of a closed shop yet. Someone I know got their first season ticket in 23/24 and now has 12 away games to his name and is not far off top of the pile.

It's getting harder for sure but it's still possible if you're willing to put the miles in.

Loads of games last season went to just STH's or even members so there was plenty of opportunities to get on the ladder.

As for people buying for points I think some clubs do a percentage of tickets for random collection at every game. People would get sick of that pretty quickly though I'm sure.

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1 hour ago, LGTL said:

There’s not really a way of stopping it though, especially if people aren’t selling them on. Except from doing pick ups for every away match which just won’t happen for logistical/cost reasons. 

By people not selling them on do you mean leaving the seat empty? Brighton get attendance details from the home club and then take the point away if a ticket wasn't scanned.

Surprised we didn't implement that after the Cardiff cup game last season.

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2 hours ago, IFHP said:

Perhaps if you went to a few “ less decent “ away games it would give you a better chance of a “ decent “ away game 

Do you know how often away tickets become available to those who have not had 5-10 from the previous season? Maybe 2-3 cup games?

The following season, how many then go on sale to those who’ve been to (say) 3 away games the previous season? Does it ever get that low? 

So I could get to 2-3 cup games and still not get an away ticket the following season. 

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3 hours ago, Football Special said:

Don't be silly. There are some who literally go to every game, regardless of distance,  kick off time, how shit we're playing, those fans deserve to be ahead of others just because someone else fancies an away day in London once a year. 

To compromise I'd say make 80% of tickets based on loyalty and 20% to a ballot of season ticket holders / members 

If fans want to build up away credits just got to go to less desirable trips when opportunity arises, there will be several aways that make it to that. 

I’ve had my season ticket, the same seat, since SMS opened. I used to attend away games when I could too. If you are talking loyalty then would that trump someone who has had his ST for a year and then done a load of aways?

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26 minutes ago, LeBizzier69 said:

Do you know how often away tickets become available to those who have not had 5-10 from the previous season? Maybe 2-3 cup games?

The following season, how many then go on sale to those who’ve been to (say) 3 away games the previous season? Does it ever get that low? 

So I could get to 2-3 cup games and still not get an away ticket the following season. 

Loads of aways made it on sale to just season ticket holders with no aways last season, it wasn't hard if you wanted to go. 

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1 minute ago, Football Special said:

Loads of aways made it on sale to just season ticket holders with no aways last season, it wasn't hard if you wanted to go. 

Fair enough - but then it comes down to basically spending every single weekend at football, if you got to all home games. 
Not sure what the argument is to not have a ballot, other than “loyalty”.

Sure loads of people would at least like the chance to attend away games, young and old.

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19 minutes ago, LeBizzier69 said:

Do you know how often away tickets become available to those who have not had 5-10 from the previous season? Maybe 2-3 cup games?

The following season, how many then go on sale to those who’ve been to (say) 3 away games the previous season? Does it ever get that low? 

So I could get to 2-3 cup games and still not get an away ticket the following season. 

It always baffles me that people make this argument, a fair few games made it to members last season and even this season i reckon you'll be able to get away tickets on zero aways or a membership for a few.

For example, Ipswich away, sunday midday kick off and bus replacement, will definitely got to members. Hull away, long trip up north the week after the skates at home and not a new ground. Sheffield United, a tuesday night that will definitely go to members. Bristol City, midweek big away end will go to members. Blackburn, potential of up to 7k if we wanted, on a saturday so no problems with time off, will definitely make members. Birmingham, monday night, big away end just after xmas, again that'll make members. Boro away, long trip up north, on a sunday and a big away end, again that'll make members.

When people complain about this what they mean isn't I can't go away, because that's not true. They mean i can't do no aways and go to a handful of very specific away games that everyone wants to do.

17 minutes ago, LeBizzier69 said:

I’ve had my season ticket, the same seat, since SMS opened. I used to attend away games when I could too. If you are talking loyalty then would that trump someone who has had his ST for a year and then done a load of aways?

I've been going since '84, had a season ticket since the Dell and do about 15-18 aways, if for some reason my circumstances changed and i couldn't do aways anymore then i wouldn't complain if a nipper who'd had a season ticket for one season and did 15-18 aways got tickets before me.

I think unless you do them regularly you can't understand just how much time and money it takes to do them. You're spending thousands each season on trains, tickets, food and drink. You're often using up holiday from work or leaving the house at 6am and getting back gone midnight, if you do that week in week out then you deserve first dibs because it's fucking tough (especially when we're losing).

The only thing I personally think is unfair is that members who do a ton of aways can lose out to a season ticket holder who decides to do their first one of the season

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5 minutes ago, LeBizzier69 said:

Fair enough - but then it comes down to basically spending every single weekend at football, if you got to all home games. 
Not sure what the argument is to not have a ballot, other than “loyalty”.

Sure loads of people would at least like the chance to attend away games, young and old.

Loads of people do have the chance to attend away games, both young and old as has been explained. Might not be the first choice game you want but that's life, and if you asked away regulars I think you would find the less desirable trips are often the best ones anyway. 

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1 minute ago, franniesTache said:

It always baffles me that people make this argument, a fair few games made it to members last season and even this season i reckon you'll be able to get away tickets on zero aways or a membership for a few.

For example, Ipswich away, sunday midday kick off and bus replacement, will definitely got to members. Hull away, long trip up north the week after the skates at home and not a new ground. Sheffield United, a tuesday night that will definitely go to members. Bristol City, midweek big away end will go to members. Blackburn, potential of up to 7k if we wanted, on a saturday so no problems with time off, will definitely make members. Birmingham, monday night, big away end just after xmas, again that'll make members. Boro away, long trip up north, on a sunday and a big away end, again that'll make members.

When people complain about this what they mean isn't I can't go away, because that's not true. They mean i can't do no aways and go to a handful of very specific away games that everyone wants to do.

I've been going since '84, had a season ticket since the Dell and do about 15-18 aways, if for some reason my circumstances changed and i couldn't do aways anymore then i wouldn't complain if a nipper who'd had a season ticket for one season and did 15-18 aways got tickets before me.

I think unless you do them regularly you can't understand just how much time and money it takes to do them. You're spending thousands each season on trains, tickets, food and drink. You're often using up holiday from work or leaving the house at 6am and getting back gone midnight, if you do that week in week out then you deserve first dibs because it's fucking tough (especially when we're losing).

The only thing I personally think is unfair is that members who do a ton of aways can lose out to a season ticket holder who decides to do their first one of the season

I totally understand the argument, and commitment people make.

Just think a ballot would be a great way to give all ST holders the chance to go.

This system hasn’t been in place that many years has it? Can’t even remember.

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7 minutes ago, LeBizzier69 said:

I totally understand the argument, and commitment people make.

Just think a ballot would be a great way to give all ST holders the chance to go.

This system hasn’t been in place that many years has it? Can’t even remember.

it's been in place since before we were relegated to league one, it's just that our numbers have shot up in the last 5 years or so. People never used to moan back in the day because north of london we'd often only take a few hundred, and often back then it was just pay on the gate too (which did also mean you could travel up somewhere and get locked out and have to try the home ends).

A ballot isn't really about "fairness" it's about people thinking they deserve something without putting in the effort, and as i pointed out you're hardly out in the cold there's plenty of games you can make.

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Posted

I only started attending away games recently, post-lockdown. I missed out on a few localish ones for me in London so went to games further away to ensure I could the following season. It really wasn't hard to get the numbers up. 

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8 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

I only started attending away games recently, post-lockdown. I missed out on a few localish ones for me in London so went to games further away to ensure I could the following season. It really wasn't hard to get the numbers up. 

A harmonious home life doesn’t allow it sadly. If i was at football every weekend it wouldn’t end well!

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West Ham do a ballot for 10% of away tickets I think unless the allocation is really small.

Which sounds fairly reasonable until a person with 8 aways misses out on a Pompey ticket to someone who's done none.

Never going to please everyone but ultimately the current system is the fairiest in my view. As I and others have pointed out it's not exactly difficult to get on the ladder either.

The real problem is many people don't want to repeatedly travel up north during our worst ever season to watch us get hammered but then expect a ticket for a local game with high demand.

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4 hours ago, LeBizzier69 said:

A harmonious home life doesn’t allow it sadly. If i was at football every weekend it wouldn’t end well!

Out of interest which aways did you want to go to last year that you missed out on? 

And which aways do you have an eye on for this season? 

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9 minutes ago, Football Special said:

Out of interest which aways did you want to go to last year that you missed out on? 

And which aways do you have an eye on for this season? 

Honestly can’t remember as it depends on what’s happening any given weekend plus I know it’s a case of “day 1 - ST + 10 aways. Day 2 - ST + 9 aways” etc.

As for this season, my daughter now has a ST with me at SMS for the first time, so it’s not going to be quite that simple….i’d want to take her with me ideally. 

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I live up north so only manage a couple of home games a season. Usually do 8-10 aways a season on a membership. I’m fine with season ticket holders having preference, they attend more games total so that’s fair. What I did notice last season was some games that always went to membership the whole time I’ve been going, sold out to ST holders. So I missed out on Wolves and City away tickets but then managed to buy some from fans who bought to sell on… 

What wasn’t fair was the League cup final where I had 12 games total, 2 home and 10 away (including the away semi final - what a night!), but members with just any 3 home games got preference. In no world was that fair, I did get a ticket when they released an extra small allocation but I was really annoyed when I initially missed out. Not had that problem since, think the club realised it was stupid.

Last time out in the championship as a member I did miss out on Birmingham and Leeds aways. I’m sure there will be some midlands/northern ones that don’t make it again, still worth having the membership though IMO.

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25 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

I live up north so only manage a couple of home games a season. Usually do 8-10 aways a season on a membership. I’m fine with season ticket holders having preference, they attend more games total so that’s fair. What I did notice last season was some games that always went to membership the whole time I’ve been going, sold out to ST holders. So I missed out on Wolves and City away tickets but then managed to buy some from fans who bought to sell on… 

What wasn’t fair was the League cup final where I had 12 games total, 2 home and 10 away (including the away semi final - what a night!), but members with just any 3 home games got preference. In no world was that fair, I did get a ticket when they released an extra small allocation but I was really annoyed when I initially missed out. Not had that problem since, think the club realised it was stupid.

Last time out in the championship as a member I did miss out on Birmingham and Leeds aways. I’m sure there will be some midlands/northern ones that don’t make it again, still worth having the membership though IMO.

Regional supporters clubs used to be able to help members out with tickets, I know London Saints used to and I thought Northern Saints arranged something similar , worth looking into in case that helps, although being a member will be enough for majority of games north of Birmingham I think anyway. 

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4 hours ago, goodymatt said:

I live up north so only manage a couple of home games a season. Usually do 8-10 aways a season on a membership. I’m fine with season ticket holders having preference, they attend more games total so that’s fair. What I did notice last season was some games that always went to membership the whole time I’ve been going, sold out to ST holders. So I missed out on Wolves and City away tickets but then managed to buy some from fans who bought to sell on… 

What wasn’t fair was the League cup final where I had 12 games total, 2 home and 10 away (including the away semi final - what a night!), but members with just any 3 home games got preference. In no world was that fair, I did get a ticket when they released an extra small allocation but I was really annoyed when I initially missed out. Not had that problem since, think the club realised it was stupid.

Last time out in the championship as a member I did miss out on Birmingham and Leeds aways. I’m sure there will be some midlands/northern ones that don’t make it again, still worth having the membership though IMO.

Yeah it was a joke in 2017 when they only counted home games. In fairness they learnt from it and last year counted all games.

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On 19/07/2025 at 08:55, LeBizzier69 said:

Why can’t they just do a ballot for away games? 

I missed out on Northampton but am not moaning about the system.

But how would the ballot work for a family group ? When we go to away games it’s usually three of us, so your ballot system would need all three to be selected presumably. Bollocks to that. 

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Another option that was once considered by the club but all went quiet was the option of an Away ST. 
 

Not fully explained what it was or explored, I assume it might have been a glorified or enhanced membership to get priority on away tickets. 

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18 hours ago, Badger said:

Another option that was once considered by the club but all went quiet was the option of an Away ST. 
 

Not fully explained what it was or explored, I assume it might have been a glorified or enhanced membership to get priority on away tickets. 

Didn’t they do this for a while? Sure I remember it being an option.

 

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3 hours ago, LeBizzier69 said:

Didn’t they do this for a while? Sure I remember it being an option.

 

They did it for a short period capped to a small number, haven't done it for years though

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Just had a quick look and most clubs haven't announced away ticket details for the opening weekend of games, which is now less than 3 weeks away. Pretty poor. The only teams so far who had were Ipswich at Birmingham and the skates at Oxford. I hope we announce Ipswich details soon (less than 4 weeks away!).

When every team does announce away ticket prices I'll compile a list and post it up here, and also the usual allocations, assuming a team charges the same prices for every team. Birmingham is the standard 2000 fans, Oxford is 1500.

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39 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

Birmingham is the standard 2000 fans, Oxford is 1500.

We’ve shot ourselves in the foot a bit there by not making segregation adjustable in the away corner, giving away fans 3,000 is a fook up in this division. You’d like to think we’ve already arranged a reciprocal agreement with clubs like Brum with similar size stadiums.

If we’re going well and some away supports are rattling away in that corner while home fans can’t buy tickets, then will understandably piss a few off.

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2 hours ago, Pamplemousse said:

Just had a quick look and most clubs haven't announced away ticket details for the opening weekend of games, which is now less than 3 weeks away. Pretty poor. The only teams so far who had were Ipswich at Birmingham and the skates at Oxford. I hope we announce Ipswich details soon (less than 4 weeks away!).

When every team does announce away ticket prices I'll compile a list and post it up here, and also the usual allocations, assuming a team charges the same prices for every team. Birmingham is the standard 2000 fans, Oxford is 1500.

Prices will presumably be different if clubs do categories like we do. These are Coventry's match prices.

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, TheAlehouseBrawlers said:

We’ve shot ourselves in the foot a bit there by not making segregation adjustable in the away corner, giving away fans 3,000 is a fook up in this division. You’d like to think we’ve already arranged a reciprocal agreement with clubs like Brum with similar size stadiums.

If we’re going well and some away supports are rattling away in that corner while home fans can’t buy tickets, then will understandably piss a few off.

Said earlier this year that it was ridiculously short sighted of the club to set up the away end as they have.

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