Dman Posted May 1 Posted May 1 1 hour ago, Window Cleaner said: So, some changes today. No Dawson, Jack or Lehmann. Currie, Middleton and Organ added. Won toss, put Glamorgan into bat first. Another fantastic bit of captancy by Ben Brown. The pitch looks a belter to bat on, especially in these conditions. 1
Window Cleaner Posted May 1 Author Posted May 1 I doubt that Brown decides all by himself. Theory seems to be that with a bit more grass left on the strip our bowlers should take davantage. Carberry says that the bowling is too inconsistant to trouble Glamorgan overmuch. Still they got Tribe,out from a silly swish.
Lee On Solent Saint Posted May 1 Posted May 1 Has Dawson been dropped or injured? I know he hasn't started the season that well, but big call if he has been dropped. 1
Window Cleaner Posted May 1 Author Posted May 1 3 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: Has Dawson been dropped or injured? I know he hasn't started the season that well, but big call if he has been dropped. Injured. Apparently has been for a while but today, although named in the side, couldn't play.
Lee On Solent Saint Posted May 1 Posted May 1 5 minutes ago, Window Cleaner said: Injured. Apparently has been for a while but today, although named in the side, couldn't play. Thanks
Window Cleaner Posted May 1 Author Posted May 1 (edited) 1 hour ago, Window Cleaner said: This is poor from Hants. Makes a change though. À bowling shambles instead of a batting shambles. Edited May 1 by Window Cleaner
badgerx16 Posted May 1 Posted May 1 1 hour ago, Window Cleaner said: Makes a change though. À bowling shambles instead of a batting shambles. That is yet to come. 1
Gloucester Saint Posted May 1 Posted May 1 (edited) A Utilita shirtfront. Important thing is beat the follow on when we bat and take our time. No T20 crap. On this surface, we should be expecting a couple of hundreds and at least two 50s from the top six, in additions to contributions further down. That needs to be set as a minimum standard in the dressing room as their attack isn’t especially potent. I’d seriously question if any of the top 6 have a future at the club if that can’t be done. Lehmann has had to go home so he can’t prop them up this time. Ben Brown is a shit captain though. Needs another ton to stay in the team and I hope Russell Domingo tells him that. Edited May 1 by Gloucester Saint
Lee On Solent Saint Posted May 1 Posted May 1 You know your on trouble when you have to start bowling Organ. Been pretty ineffective, but could say that for all the bowlers really bar Abbott and Baker.
Window Cleaner Posted Sunday at 10:36 Author Posted Sunday at 10:36 Oh dear. Heading for an innings defeat more thn likely.
Gloucester Saint Posted Sunday at 11:57 Posted Sunday at 11:57 (edited) 1 hour ago, Window Cleaner said: Oh dear. Heading for an innings defeat more thn likely. Horrific hack across the line from Middleton, like Weatherley another batter well below FC level who needs FT employment and enjoy his cricket in the local leagues. Today has to be the day for Tom Prest, 43 no and needs a big ton. The forecast may save Hampshire if they put in a little more effort this afternoon on a road to play straight to very modest bowling. The new coach is already under pressure I suspect. Yusuf has been useless, worse than Hampton. Get an overseas batsman in and draw our way to staying up. Edited Sunday at 11:59 by Gloucester Saint
Hodgey Posted Sunday at 12:17 Posted Sunday at 12:17 Our batting continuing to disappoint. Can’t believe us getting zero batting points when an ordinary Glamorgan were on their way to 600 is on the cards.
Window Cleaner Posted Sunday at 12:18 Author Posted Sunday at 12:18 19 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: Horrific hack across the line from Middleton, like Weatherley another batter well below FC level who needs FT employment and enjoy his cricket in the local leagues. Today has to be the day for Tom Prest, 43 no and needs a big ton. The forecast may save Hampshire if they put in a little more effort this afternoon on a road to play straight to very modest bowling. The new coach is already under pressure I suspect. Yusuf has been useless, worse than Hampton. Get an overseas batsman in and draw our way to staying up. Not today Tom Prest. Humiliated by Crâne.
Gloucester Saint Posted Sunday at 12:21 Posted Sunday at 12:21 2 minutes ago, Window Cleaner said: Not today Tom Prest. Humiliated by Crâne. 132-5. Domingo is fighting for his job here. Squad is D2 but they’re not playing for the coach at all.
John B Posted Sunday at 12:25 Posted Sunday at 12:25 I always hoped that Mason Crane would get wickets at the Bowl but surely not Hampshire wickets
Window Cleaner Posted Sunday at 12:28 Author Posted Sunday at 12:28 6 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: 132-5. Domingo is fighting for his job here. Squad is D2 but they’re not playing for the coach at all. Couldn't say, the players are what they are and I know nothing about the coach. However we probably need to stop playing at the Utilita where the pitches don't suit us, no fans either.
Window Cleaner Posted Sunday at 13:09 Author Posted Sunday at 13:09 (edited) Thèse are just dobby seamers, but they're accurate and don't spray the ball about as did ours bowlers on friday. A real spinner is of course a bonus. Edited Sunday at 13:18 by Window Cleaner 1
John B Posted Sunday at 13:30 Posted Sunday at 13:30 1 hour ago, Gloucester Saint said: Horrific hack across the line from Middleton, like Weatherley another batter well below FC level who needs FT employment and enjoy his cricket in the local leagues. Today has to be the day for Tom Prest, 43 no and needs a big ton. The forecast may save Hampshire if they put in a little more effort this afternoon on a road to play straight to very modest bowling. The new coach is already under pressure I suspect. Yusuf has been useless, worse than Hampton. Get an overseas batsman in and draw our way to staying up. Could you please stop posting this rubbish Middleton is a less than Average First Class Cricketer with little confidence playing in a poor team one of the worst in the last fifty years The coach is unlikely to be sacked as he is not responsible for bowlers inaccuracy and batsman's poor shot selection
Dusic Posted Sunday at 13:40 Posted Sunday at 13:40 The recruitment for a test county is just horrific. Compare our top 5 to almost every other county and it clearly isn't competitive. Time and time again they fail to address the top of the order with meaningful signings. Look at this side versus the one from two or three years back with Vince, a motivated Dawson, Barker, Abbas etc and its lightyears apart. Relegation inevitable and caused by awful cricket management. 1
Gloucester Saint Posted Sunday at 13:40 Posted Sunday at 13:40 4 minutes ago, John B said: Could you please stop posting this rubbish Middleton is a less than Average First Class Cricketer with little confidence playing in a poor team one of the worst in the last fifty years The coach is unlikely to be sacked as he is not responsible for bowlers inaccuracy and batsman's poor shot selection I’ll post what I like John as long as it is not litigious. 154-8 against that attack on that pitch is beyond pathetic. Cricket doesn’t have transfer windows so the coach is one of the few things you can change. It’s like when Will Still when Saints had him as manager, the players have no plan, no confidence and no leadership. It’s not a vintage Hampshire side but Gubbins is better than he’s showing, Prest is getting no direction to value his wicket, Currie has been in England white ball squads recently. It’s not as bad as this or the Essex no-show. Even in the late 90s when we had no money it was better than this. Deposing Brown as skipper would be an idea as well.
Gloucester Saint Posted Sunday at 14:24 Posted Sunday at 14:24 (edited) 1 hour ago, Window Cleaner said: Thèse are just dobby seamers, but they're accurate and don't spray the ball about as did ours bowlers on friday. A real spinner is of course a bonus. 70mph and not moving the ball much, but decent lines and straight. Ball has hardly beaten the bat but Glamorgan were disciplined and Hampshire don’t have any ideas or plans. Carlson predicted it would be very difficult to get wickets today but he’s in a promoted side who want to play for their county, our senior players don’t bar Dawse and Kyle. Mayes clearly has talent but being set a terrible example by indiscipline and lack of work ethic of the mid-senior career players. New owners will shake things up majorly at the club over the winter I’d expect. Edited Sunday at 14:27 by Gloucester Saint
Dusic Posted Sunday at 14:59 Posted Sunday at 14:59 33 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: 70mph and not moving the ball much, but decent lines and straight. Ball has hardly beaten the bat but Glamorgan were disciplined and Hampshire don’t have any ideas or plans. Carlson predicted it would be very difficult to get wickets today but he’s in a promoted side who want to play for their county, our senior players don’t bar Dawse and Kyle. Mayes clearly has talent but being set a terrible example by indiscipline and lack of work ethic of the mid-senior career players. New owners will shake things up majorly at the club over the winter I’d expect. No particular reason for ghem to give a shit about red ball cricket though. We will be competitive in T20 and their priority will be Southern Capitals in Hundred.
badgerx16 Posted Sunday at 15:12 Posted Sunday at 15:12 12 minutes ago, Dusic said: No particular reason for them to give a shit about red ball cricket though. Is there a financial hit from relegation ?
Window Cleaner Posted Sunday at 15:34 Author Posted Sunday at 15:34 17 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Is there a financial hit from relegation ? Probably but money comes from the T20, the Hundred and Internationals. Looking at the empty stands, can't see that we make anything from red ball. Apparently we have a project to rebuild, can't see how. Abbott and Dawson are done, Brown also. True we have Mayes but he'll be on central contract soon as you know it and the rest is D2 standard.
Hodgey Posted Sunday at 17:37 Posted Sunday at 17:37 Fair point - but let’s see how we do in short overs. What I would say is that many of these players in the 5 day will do limited and morale / form will be horrendous.
Gloucester Saint Posted Sunday at 19:36 Posted Sunday at 19:36 4 hours ago, Dusic said: No particular reason for ghem to give a shit about red ball cricket though. We will be competitive in T20 and their priority will be Southern Capitals in Hundred. If they’ve got genuine international ambitions they might, although Emilio Gay disproving that theory slightly with his form for Durham. Got more to do with how pathetic England were in the winter though and the fact several vacancies have opened up in the previously closed shop. Ben Mayes might give Hampshire a season to invest seriously in the first team squad and see if we are going to try and compete again if he’s looking at England all formats, Dawson maybe skipper because Ben Brown is appalling. Lumsden is a serious prospect but will need careful management of workload. Probably a 4 over shock bowler in D2 next year.
Gloucester Saint Posted Sunday at 19:45 Posted Sunday at 19:45 (edited) One thing I’d definitely do if I was Rod is send Yusuf to Heathrow and on a plane back to SA. Can’t believe he’s played Tests and ODIs recently for the world’s best Test team. Been utter garbage. I didn’t think it was possible to be worse than the dreaded Brett Hampton but Cody’s managed it. Get an international batsman in, especially if Lehman doesn’t return. Tilak had huge impact last year. Someone that gives the dressing room a lift/rocket and lifts standards would be even better. Edited Sunday at 19:47 by Gloucester Saint
Lighthouse Posted Sunday at 20:35 Posted Sunday at 20:35 A reminder that the Welsh were 397-1, whilst we ended day three on 332-15. This is Saints last season levels of appalling, every week we find new ways to embarrass ourselves. 1
Window Cleaner Posted Monday at 08:51 Author Posted Monday at 08:51 13 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said: One thing I’d definitely do if I was Rod is send Yusuf to Heathrow and on a plane back to SA. Can’t believe he’s played Tests and ODIs recently for the world’s best Test team. Been utter garbage. I didn’t think it was possible to be worse than the dreaded Brett Hampton but Cody’s managed it. Get an international batsman in, especially if Lehman doesn’t return. Tilak had huge impact last year. Someone that gives the dressing room a lift/rocket and lifts standards would be even better. Don't think you can pick out Yusuf this time, roughly the same figures as Abbott and Baker. Our bowlers didn't put any pressure on Glamorgan because they were inconsistant, far too many stray balls easy to hit. Carberry kept on making this point. Does he coach Carberry?
Gloucester Saint Posted Monday at 10:22 Posted Monday at 10:22 (edited) 1 hour ago, Window Cleaner said: Don't think you can pick out Yusuf this time, roughly the same figures as Abbott and Baker. Our bowlers didn't put any pressure on Glamorgan because they were inconsistant, far too many stray balls easy to hit. Carberry kept on making this point. Does he coach Carberry? I’m not disagreeing on accuracy but then Glamorgan’s little medium pacers plus Mason Crane who will be fired up are bowling to batsman who don’t value their wicket whatsoever. Swipe across the line, lbw or caught mid-wicket, have a chuckle. Their batsmen knew it was a good pitch and got in behind, defended well and then counter-attacked when our quicks tired, I’m not suggesting Yusuf isn’t trying but he’s had zero impact but right now we need a high quality batter of Tilak quality plus Lehmann back so we give our bowlers some hope. Pack a couple of the batters off on loan to D2/minor counties until the contracts expire, start clearing decks. Organ and Weatherley for starters. Edited Monday at 10:23 by Gloucester Saint
Window Cleaner Posted Monday at 11:06 Author Posted Monday at 11:06 Can we hold out until the rain comes ?
Window Cleaner Posted Monday at 11:21 Author Posted Monday at 11:21 56 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: I’m not disagreeing on accuracy but then Glamorgan’s little medium pacers plus Mason Crane who will be fired up are bowling to batsman who don’t value their wicket whatsoever. Swipe across the line, lbw or caught mid-wicket, have a chuckle. Their batsmen knew it was a good pitch and got in behind, defended well and then counter-attacked when our quicks tired, I’m not suggesting Yusuf isn’t trying but he’s had zero impact but right now we need a high quality batter of Tilak quality plus Lehmann back so we give our bowlers some hope. Pack a couple of the batters off on loan to D2/minor counties until the contracts expire, start clearing decks. Organ and Weatherley for starters. The ball that got Gubbins second innings was a freak, came back about 18 inches, no doubt off the seam in the rough, trouve with batting second and third on what looks a roughed up wicket.
Gloucester Saint Posted Monday at 16:30 Posted Monday at 16:30 Successive innings defeats at home - Brown calls it a very poor performance and very poor week. Need to get an overseas batsman in for the Essex game. Yusuf has contributed nothing and the Southern Premier quality top order struggled without Jake Lehmann to bail them out again. Brown tried to save it second innings but couldn’t get consistent partners bar Currie and briefly Yusuf. Bowling is pathetic as well. Brown saying Glamorgan should never have been declaring. Glamorgan’s 4th ever D1 win to take back across the Severn Bridge. Hants need an emergency board meeting with the coach and then the first team squad. You don’t suddenly pick up in your white ball fixtures when the morale and work ethic is on the floor. If they’re not playing for Domingo or Brown then change is neccessary prior to the Essex game. 1
badgerx16 Posted Monday at 17:12 Posted Monday at 17:12 40 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: Successive innings defeats at home - Brown calls it a very poor performance and very poor week. . Well he did at least get something right. 1
Weston Saint Posted Monday at 17:23 Posted Monday at 17:23 Lehmann not far away from coming back. Hampshire hoping he will be back in time for Essex away. Certain he will be in for Nottinghamshire if not. Dawson should be fit as well. Not making any excuses, we have been dreadful in all 3 home games. One of the issues is that we have a batch of young players that the club are trying to accommodate for the future. If you do not play them, you will lose them or they will not develop. That is why Gubbins is playing as an opener, to allow Mayes to play in mid order and develop Prest at 3. Rod Bransgrove is not involved with management of the club anymore. He stood down last season. He is still a director but does not get involved with the cricket team. He has moved abroad and can only be in the country for 90 days a year for tax purposes. He was at this game and I chatted to him. Have not seen the coach for a chat yet but I do speak to the Chairman and Cricket Secretary so still get some information. 2
Toadhall Saint Posted yesterday at 07:41 Posted yesterday at 07:41 (edited) Good win for the ladies in the one say cup yesterday. Mia B just short of 150. Edited yesterday at 07:41 by Toadhall Saint 1
Window Cleaner Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago Batting looks difficult this morning. A couple of narrow escapes and now Albert is out.
Window Cleaner Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago Oh dear. Prest beaten all ends up. We perhaps need to review our policy on him batting at 3.
Window Cleaner Posted 58 minutes ago Author Posted 58 minutes ago (edited) Shambles, but then that's nothing out of the ordinary. Gubbins just doesn't défend well enough to be a serious opener,no matter how he tries there's always some minor technical default. He's ruining what's left of his career accepting this role. Edited 54 minutes ago by Window Cleaner 1
Gloucester Saint Posted 32 minutes ago Posted 32 minutes ago 58-3, need to get to lunch losing max only one more wicket. With Essex winning the toss on a green slow seamer with their attack, it was going to be tricky. Agree with @Window Cleaner on Prest at #3, it’s not working and his technique is nowhere near Bethell. Let’s accept defeat on Yusuf and bring in an international batsman there so Tom can bat at #5.
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