Window Cleaner Posted May 8 Author Posted May 8 Doh! Poor start, recovered well and then just sort of collapsed after tea.
Lee On Solent Saint Posted May 8 Posted May 8 What's happened to Orr? Surely he can't be any worse than the opening guys we have tried thus far?
Window Cleaner Posted May 8 Author Posted May 8 16 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: What's happened to Orr? Surely he can't be any worse than the opening guys we have tried thus far? Plays for Scotland a bit. Don't know what format.
Lee On Solent Saint Posted May 8 Posted May 8 17 minutes ago, Window Cleaner said: Plays for Scotland a bit. Don't know what format. Thought I read somewhere that he wasn't included in their squad for some upcoming T20 games
Gloucester Saint Posted May 8 Posted May 8 Pity about the collapse, great stand between first Lehmann and Mayes, then Lehmann-Brown, and then thrown away by late middle order and tail. Dawson got an unplayable delivery. Reasonable start with the ball, glad to see Fuller back. Yusuf too short again for the surface, fuller length and he might get driven but he is just as likely to get a wicket early season. Why aren’t the coaches making this point? Are they bothered or is he not listening? Tomorrow am crucial, need at least 3 wickets before lunch when the ball goes soft and we saw batting getting easier.
Gloucester Saint Posted May 8 Posted May 8 5 hours ago, Window Cleaner said: Probably not what's needed at all. I'd think getting a real opener in, no need to bé an overseas player, use any one of the three other "openers". Put Gubbins back at 3, Mayes 5 and if you must Prest at 6. The only thing that probably needs doing with Yusuf is to tell him to bowl to English conditions and not a yard short as is standard in S.A. Probably been told that already, but i'm not sure if we actually have a specific bowling coach. If you bat well at 3 at international level, generally you’ll have the game to open in the domestic game. Agree with you on Gubbins at 3 domestically, Mayes at 5 and Prest they’ve got to persevere with at 6 because there is talent there, but he hasn’t the brains or focus of a Bethell. But against the older ball his development might unlock again. Yusuf wicketless again, not making any runs in the tail and waste of a shirt.
Picard Posted May 9 Posted May 9 12 hours ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: What's happened to Orr? Surely he can't be any worse than the opening guys we have tried thus far? Kevan James reckoned that the players currently in the team would be given a few matches to prove themselves before being dropped .
Gloucester Saint Posted May 9 Posted May 9 4 hours ago, Picard said: Kevan James reckoned that the players currently in the team would be given a few matches to prove themselves before being dropped . The issue being most of those batters were garbage last season as well bar Dawson. Lehmann is a good player but him and more recently Brown are looking like Bradman and Gilchrist by comparison to the Southern Premier filler around them. Need couple quick wickets this morning to get into their middle order before the ball goes soft and sunshine dries the wicket slightly.
badgerx16 Posted May 9 Posted May 9 (edited) 5 hours ago, Picard said: Kevan James reckoned that the players currently in the team would be given a few matches to prove themselves before being dropped . How many potential batting and bowling points will we have thrown away before they are ruled inadequate ? How far adrift at the bottom of the table before anybody acts ? The problems are bloody obvious and run deep. Edited May 9 by badgerx16 1
Gloucester Saint Posted May 9 Posted May 9 Good start, need to break this partnership now. Was James Fuller injured before this?
Lighthouse Posted May 9 Posted May 9 Thank f**k we’ve got Fuller, Lehmann and Daws back. Looked like a village team without them. For an overseas player, I can’t really say Yusuf has added much we wouldn’t have got from Wheal or Jack.
Window Cleaner Posted May 9 Author Posted May 9 1 hour ago, Lighthouse said: Thank f**k we’ve got Fuller, Lehmann and Daws back. Looked like a village team without them. For an overseas player, I can’t really say Yusuf has added much we wouldn’t have got from Wheal or Jack. Dawson on his current form, I could do without if needs be. I'd give Neal a go.
badgerx16 Posted May 9 Posted May 9 Conceded 81 for the last wicket. We'll probably lose at least 2 wickets wiping out their first innings lead. 1
Window Cleaner Posted May 9 Author Posted May 9 (edited) 2 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Conceded 81 for the last wicket. We'll probably lose at least 2 wickets wiping out their first innings lead. Poor bowling. I haven't watched for a while but I saw a lot of wild stuff from Yusuf and "hit me"balls from Dawson. Dropped catch as well, Lehmann perhaps. Edited May 9 by Window Cleaner 1
Gloucester Saint Posted May 9 Posted May 9 1 hour ago, Lighthouse said: Thank f**k we’ve got Fuller, Lehmann and Daws back. Looked like a village team without them. For an overseas player, I can’t really say Yusuf has added much we wouldn’t have got from Wheal or Jack. Yusuf is a waste of a shirt, no quicker than Wheal or Jack, arguably slower, goes for 4 per over and very few wickets. Doesn’t score late over runs and fielding so so. Pedigree good but the reality not. Quality overseas opener would be more helpful.
Window Cleaner Posted May 9 Author Posted May 9 Didn't see Albert's wicket but Prest was guilty of a Vince special, aimless waft outside off.
badgerx16 Posted May 9 Posted May 9 1 hour ago, badgerx16 said: Conceded 81 for the last wicket. We'll probably lose at least 2 wickets wiping out their first innings lead. Told ya. 1
Gloucester Saint Posted May 9 Posted May 9 21 minutes ago, Window Cleaner said: Didn't see Albert's wicket but Prest was guilty of a Vince special, aimless waft outside off. He’s crap, certainly at 3. Lost his way, needs to bat at 6 but contributing 40+ there or can make up the numbers at Derbyshire or somewhere. The adults are in now, needs to be a hefty partnership.
John B Posted May 9 Posted May 9 On 03/05/2026 at 14:40, Gloucester Saint said: I’ll post what I like John as long as it is not litigious. 154-8 against that attack on that pitch is beyond pathetic. Cricket doesn’t have transfer windows so the coach is one of the few things you can change. It’s like when Will Still when Saints had him as manager, the players have no plan, no confidence and no leadership. It’s not a vintage Hampshire side but Gubbins is better than he’s showing, Prest is getting no direction to value his wicket, Currie has been in England white ball squads recently. It’s not as bad as this or the Essex no-show. Even in the late 90s when we had no money it was better than this. Deposing Brown as skipper would be an idea as well. Give it a rest just back from an enjoyable couple of days at Essex PS I am not sure you understand cricket
John B Posted May 9 Posted May 9 2 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said: Yusuf is a waste of a shirt, no quicker than Wheal or Jack, arguably slower, goes for 4 per over and very few wickets. Doesn’t score late over runs and fielding so so. Pedigree good but the reality not. Quality overseas opener would be more helpful. I thought he was pretty unlucky last night bowled pretty quick and had Elgar Jumping all over the place
Gloucester Saint Posted May 9 Posted May 9 (edited) 14 minutes ago, John B said: Give it a rest just back from an enjoyable couple of days at Essex PS I am not sure you understand cricket Best that you think before you type John. Edited May 9 by Gloucester Saint
Gloucester Saint Posted May 9 Posted May 9 (edited) 13 minutes ago, John B said: I thought he was pretty unlucky last night bowled pretty quick and had Elgar Jumping all over the place Cranked it up for his fellow Saffer and ex-national skipper. Been half a length too short so far. Edited May 9 by Gloucester Saint
Lighthouse Posted May 9 Posted May 9 In other news, Somerset must have been pretty chuffed to bowl out Glamorgan for a first innings lead of 125 runs. They finished the day 32-6, with ducks for five of their batsmen and a hat trick for Norton in the fifth over. 1
Gloucester Saint Posted Sunday at 10:15 Posted Sunday at 10:15 This is the stand - 63/2, 25 ahead, Gubbins and Lehmann. Need both to go on here.
Window Cleaner Posted Sunday at 16:32 Author Posted Sunday at 16:32 Can't bat, can't bowl. 4th loss of the season coming up. We were alright when Abbott and Fuller were bowling. Yusuf is a leg side merchant and Currie is just hopeless. Dawson needs dropping..produces nothing.
Gloucester Saint Posted Sunday at 17:13 Posted Sunday at 17:13 36 minutes ago, Window Cleaner said: Can't bat, can't bowl. 4th loss of the season coming up. We were alright when Abbott and Fuller were bowling. Yusuf is a leg side merchant and Currie is just hopeless. Dawson needs dropping..produces nothing. Dawse has been/still injured and not fully fit I heard. Currie is playing like white ball fodder, Yusuf is the worst Hants overseas player I’ve ever seen. Yes, worse than Hampton. Was Fuller injured before this? Please tell me Russell Domingo wasn’t daft enough not to utilise him if fit and available? Bar him, Abbott, Lehmann and Brown its very grim. Gubbins had a better game at least.
Window Cleaner Posted Sunday at 17:41 Author Posted Sunday at 17:41 (edited) Ex I don't know about the worst overseas player. His bowling might be useful if three-quarters of it didn't go down the leg side. That's obviously not what he's been asked to do. Must be control issue. Edited Sunday at 17:42 by Window Cleaner
John B Posted Sunday at 18:12 Posted Sunday at 18:12 52 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: Dawse has been/still injured and not fully fit I heard. Currie is playing like white ball fodder, Yusuf is the worst Hants overseas player I’ve ever seen. Yes, worse than Hampton. Was Fuller injured before this? Please tell me Russell Domingo wasn’t daft enough not to utilise him if fit and available? Bar him, Abbott, Lehmann and Brown its very grim. Gubbins had a better game at least. Funnily I agree with most of what you are saying Fuller had two operations in the summer turned out for the 2nd XI scored a century I believe Dawson has no confidence as a batter but his bowling is important, Youngsters are not good enough for Div 1 but they could be OK in Div 2 like ex-players Alsop Holland Mason now in Div 1 and Came and McManus in Div 2 1
Hodgey Posted Sunday at 22:51 Posted Sunday at 22:51 Think most of us saw this coming, aside from a brief glimmer we look woefully inadequate. Getting a solid first innings score is crucial, this is the third season in a row we have been criminally bad at it, but this time we don’t have Abbot/Barker/Abbas bailing us out (for the first two often with bat as well) I’m not sure we can describe all our young players as ‘non-league’, they’ve all shown huge talent in periods, but none have gone on and this season appears to have gone backwards. Whether that is bad coaching/management or simply being found out technically I’m not sure - but the fact Middleton / Prest / Albert / Currie and Turner all now look out of their depth is worrying (with Jack and even Mayes seemingly following suit) Maybe it’s simply that they don’t see a future in red ball and are waiting for the slog fests where the money is at (eg last year the latter 3 were all succesful in short form) As for this year - we look light in all departments, maybe Brown/Fuller/Dawson/ Gubbins / Abbott / Lehman can all fire at the same time for a few wins to keep ys competitive - or we’ll quickly be like last years saints…… 1
Picard Posted Monday at 07:01 Posted Monday at 07:01 Apparently Hants were in negotiations with Mulder but he preferred to go to Essex.
Window Cleaner Posted Monday at 11:40 Author Posted Monday at 11:40 12 hours ago, Hodgey said: Think most of us saw this coming, aside from a brief glimmer we look woefully inadequate. Getting a solid first innings score is crucial, this is the third season in a row we have been criminally bad at it, but this time we don’t have Abbot/Barker/Abbas bailing us out (for the first two often with bat as well) I’m not sure we can describe all our young players as ‘non-league’, they’ve all shown huge talent in periods, but none have gone on and this season appears to have gone backwards. Whether that is bad coaching/management or simply being found out technically I’m not sure - but the fact Middleton / Prest / Albert / Currie and Turner all now look out of their depth is worrying (with Jack and even Mayes seemingly following suit) Maybe it’s simply that they don’t see a future in red ball and are waiting for the slog fests where the money is at (eg last year the latter 3 were all succesful in short form) As for this year - we look light in all departments, maybe Brown/Fuller/Dawson/ Gubbins / Abbott / Lehman can all fire at the same time for a few wins to keep ys competitive - or we’ll quickly be like last years saints…… Turner never plays, can't look out of his depth. T20 perhaps.
Picard Posted Monday at 17:39 Posted Monday at 17:39 Next two matches: Surrey and Notts. Can't see Hants getting many points here. 1
Gloucester Saint Posted Monday at 18:55 Posted Monday at 18:55 7 hours ago, Window Cleaner said: Turner never plays, can't look out of his depth. T20 perhaps. Don’t think his body is up to anything else at this stage.
Barsiem Posted Wednesday at 13:56 Posted Wednesday at 13:56 We're now properly fcuked in the CC this year. Thanks for the memories Daws! 1
egg Posted Wednesday at 14:06 Posted Wednesday at 14:06 8 minutes ago, Barsiem said: We're now properly fcuked in the CC this year. Thanks for the memories Daws! Blimey, didn't see that coming, and a bit of a shock now the season is up and running. 1
Gloucester Saint Posted Wednesday at 14:11 Posted Wednesday at 14:11 3 minutes ago, egg said: Blimey, didn't see that coming, and a bit of a shock now the season is up and running. He’ll still be good in white ball but had a feeling his interest had waned in red ball. Understandable given a Test recall, discarded for Ashes and then reached World T20 semis with England. 1
Lighthouse Posted Wednesday at 16:29 Posted Wednesday at 16:29 Makes sense, especially if he’s been having injury issues. Our county team really is out for the count now, with Vince and Daws gone, our best player turning 39 next month and our other overseas slot being filled by whichever mediocre journeyman fancies a game in any given week. 1
Gloucester Saint Posted Wednesday at 16:33 Posted Wednesday at 16:33 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Makes sense, especially if he’s been having injury issues. Our county team really is out for the count now, with Vince and Daws gone, our best player turning 39 next month and our other overseas slot being filled by whichever mediocre journeyman fancies a game in any given week. Yes, time to get an international opener in now. Yusuf came with a good pedigree but bowls the wrong lengths and doesn’t look dangerous at all. Cranked it up for Dean Elgar last match Quelle surprise trying to get a good report back to SA because he’s been wretched so far. Waste of a shirt. Jack would offer more. Edited Wednesday at 16:33 by Gloucester Saint
Window Cleaner Posted Thursday at 13:51 Author Posted Thursday at 13:51 So Potgieter, what do we know about him? Is that instead of Yusuf or an addition ?
Weston Saint Posted Thursday at 14:39 Posted Thursday at 14:39 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Window Cleaner said: So Potgieter, what do we know about him? Is that instead of Yusuf or an addition ? Left hander batting middle order - right arm medium. Batting average - 50 matches 44.2 - 5 centuries and 9 50's Bowling average 50 matches - 23.61 - 128 wickets Age 29. Not for tomorrow but Yusuf goes after this match so a replacement. Unless of course they drop him for his final game Edited Thursday at 14:44 by Weston Saint add last sentence 1
Picard Posted yesterday at 01:17 Posted yesterday at 01:17 10 hours ago, Weston Saint said: Left hander batting middle order - right arm medium. Batting average - 50 matches 44.2 - 5 centuries and 9 50's Bowling average 50 matches - 23.61 - 128 wickets Age 29. Not for tomorrow but Yusuf goes after this match so a replacement. Unless of course they drop him for his final game The Hants website says Potgieter is here for the Notts Surrey and Sussex games plus T20. Both he and Yusuf are in the squad for tomorrow as is Abbott. One of the overseas obviously can't play. Neal Wheal Orr and Baker are also back in the squad.
Window Cleaner Posted yesterday at 06:39 Author Posted yesterday at 06:39 Potgieter looks to be a better bat than Yusuf. I'd give him the nod today.
Window Cleaner Posted yesterday at 07:38 Author Posted yesterday at 07:38 Weather forecast looks showery all day today. Doubt if there'll be much cricket.
Dman Posted yesterday at 08:57 Posted yesterday at 08:57 18 hours ago, Weston Saint said: Left hander batting middle order - right arm medium. Batting average - 50 matches 44.2 - 5 centuries and 9 50's Bowling average 50 matches - 23.61 - 128 wickets Age 29. Not for tomorrow but Yusuf goes after this match so a replacement. Unless of course they drop him for his final game Thank god for that.
Window Cleaner Posted 23 hours ago Author Posted 23 hours ago On 13/05/2026 at 16:06, egg said: Blimey, didn't see that coming, and a bit of a shock now the season is up and running. Didn't look at all competive in the games he played. Looked totally uninterested in building any innings and the bowling was mediocre, probably because he was being asked to bowl a lot on pitches that offered nothing for him. Good decision on his part. 1
Window Cleaner Posted 23 hours ago Author Posted 23 hours ago (edited) Notts won toss and asked Hants to bat first. Potgieter in, Yusuf out. Normal as hé looks a better bat in a team that struggles to score runs. Wheal back, Organ as well. Edited 23 hours ago by Window Cleaner
Window Cleaner Posted 21 hours ago Author Posted 21 hours ago Time for the Albert, Middleton, Prest experiment to end. They will never bé good enough for D1 championship cricket.
Picard Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 1 hour ago, Window Cleaner said: Time for the Albert, Middleton, Prest experiment to end. They will never bé good enough for D1 championship cricket. Keep them for D2 next year?
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