The Spygate Saga

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

2 minutes ago, egg said:

The timescale thing is a red herring. We knew what we'd done, we knew the rules, we knew the case against us. Our only decision was what to accept, what to fight, and what mitigation to put forward.

We then messed up some more.

Evidence against us included from the kid himself. My understanding is we called him to give evidence. That lad should have been so upset that he couldn't possibly give evidence, not ponied up to point the finger at the club andTonda. 

We then took the whole "it ain't serious, it only warrants a fine" line. 

Pissing off the investigation team, hiring non specialist lawyers, calling the kid to throw us further under the bus, then pissing the panel off some more with an unrealistic stance, then ditching our counsel after the hearing (presumably as she was shit) giving the new bloke 5 minutes to prepare, etc, etc. 

But yeah, let's just focus on some 12 hour point. 

Throw in the CEO or whatever position Parsons is in mouthing off in front of Gibson.

Amateurs.

[egg]

Just now, JohnnyShearer2.0 said:

Throw in the CEO or whatever position Parsons is in mouthing off in front of Gibson.

Amateurs.

Indeed. 

And doing it to begin with. 

[Bob60]

Last post, it depends if you believe that everyone in the club knew what was going on, I don't think they did. From what I read the did what they could in the very limited timescale. 

A football club is a large business we should have been given enough time to fully investigate what had happened before having to reply. Or mistake was not pushing back on the timescales. 

But different opinions are allowed I believe, this is just my view from conversations I have had.

[egg]

1 minute ago, Bob60 said:

Last post, it depends if you believe that everyone in the club knew what was going on, I don't think they did. From what I read the did what they could in the very limited timescale. 

A football club is a large business we should have been given enough time to fully investigate what had happened before having to reply. Or mistake was not pushing back on the timescales. 

But different opinions are allowed I believe, this is just my view from conversations I have had.

The tribunal hearing was not fixed at 12 hours notice.

The appeal was quick, if that's what you mean. 

In law, urgent appeals, sometimes same day, are common. You shouldn't need time to prepare for them. Appeals are based on the court/tribunal getting it wrong, and the legal team will have known how they say the decision was wrong. 

The difficulty we had is we got it wrong. We acknowledged that by sacking counsel and bringing someone else. He wasn't on the hearing, won't have known every detail, and was playing catch up. 

It was a disaster from the club from the off. That's undeniable. 

[LiberalCommunist]

My elderly, easily confused dad told me the case punishment had dropped yesterday.

 £10m fine and given a suspended ban from registering new players for two transfer windows for breaching rules. 

Suspended six-point deduction.

Thanked for being forthcoming with information regarding the breach.........

It was at this point, half way through an air punch of celebration I realised he'd heard the Chelsea non-punishment.

Fuck my life. 

Edited 18 hours ago by LiberalCommunist

[Saints4Prem]

21 minutes ago, LiberalCommunist said:

My elderly, easily confused dad told me the case punishment had dropped yesterday.

 £10m fine and given a suspended ban from registering new players for two transfer windows for breaching rules. 

Suspended six-point deduction.

Thanked for being forthcoming with information regarding the breech.........

It was at this point, half way through an air punch of celebration I realised he'd heard the Chelsea non-punishment.

Fuck my life. 

Seriously you thought we would get off lightly 😇

[Bob60]

13 hours ago, egg said:

The tribunal hearing was not fixed at 12 hours notice.

The appeal was quick, if that's what you mean. 

In law, urgent appeals, sometimes same day, are common. You shouldn't need time to prepare for them. Appeals are based on the court/tribunal getting it wrong, and the legal team will have known how they say the decision was wrong. 

The difficulty we had is we got it wrong. We acknowledged that by sacking counsel and bringing someone else. He wasn't on the hearing, won't have known every detail, and was playing catch up. 

It was a disaster from the club from the off. That's undeniable. 

I was not talking about the appeal, in his first comments Dragon started that we were told off Boros complaint and given hours to reply just before the first leg, even at the first meeting we admitted what had happened.

[benjii]

It's remarkable that Parsons still has a job, never mind Tonda.

[IFHP]

14 minutes ago, benjii said:

It's remarkable that Parsons still has a job, never mind Tonda.

Have to agree, his handling of this whole thing has been amateurish from the start. 

[beatlesaint]

1 hour ago, benjii said:

It's remarkable that Parsons still has a job, never mind Tonda.

Yes totally agree, and on top of it he somehow gets an award from the University ffs