Holmes_and_Watson Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago JWP was very decent for us. Like a lot of players, he was fitting into systems a lot of the time. When we pushed him up a little, he looked decent going forward. He was definitely still one of our better players at the start of Martin's tenure. A bit of everything, which helped others a lot. Showed a little by example on the field, but no one was a leader for us off it. No one that stopped there being cliques and nonsense behaviour anyway. He's a player who moved on for a decent sum, and a bigger wage. The SR dream. So, there's no real reason to go back. Not his fault, but I really don't miss the commentator build up, every time he took a free kick, just so it would make the highlights.
Pilchards Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Please can we not talk about this guy anymore as he fucked off like Ramsdale. No way in a million years do I want him as a passenger at our club. We need more of where Jander, Larin, Matsuki, Scieza and Peretz came from. All top, top players that lifted us another level or two. 6
Cuddles Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said: I’d take JWP if he was on a pittance, and assuming that one of our other CMs has left. Otherwise I’m more against bringing former players back. See Lallana and Romeu for reasonings. 😅 And Walcott 1
Mk1J Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, Hawkswood said: Please god no. No more nostalgic signings please. They dont work. Especially JWP. Thanks for the effort and the free kicks but he was one of our worst offenders of crab football. Urgh. Yeah, so thats a no for me. 😊 Did he play crab football? I thought he was pre crab football. And from memory his departure coincided with the start of a RM losing streak so perhaps he could do a job at this level. But my memory is crap. I wouldn’t swap him for Jander, but I can’t see any way we would keep Jander.
Hodgey Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago We need to play the loan system, was a big mistake not doing so last summer. Thats how we got up last time, and how we improved in January Get 3 or 4 decent loans in and that should negate the 3-4 top level players we will inevitably lose. Cant see us having much cash to spend with PSR and this being year 3 of parachute payments. Maybe £10-£12m depending on how much we get for players. BTW has everyone forgotten about Roslev or are we all agreed that he isn’t very good ?? 1
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Hodgey said: We need to play the loan system, was a big mistake not doing so last summer. Thats how we got up last time, and how we improved in January Get 3 or 4 decent loans in and that should negate the 3-4 top level players we will inevitably lose. Cant see us having much cash to spend with PSR and this being year 3 of parachute payments. Maybe £10-£12m depending on how much we get for players. BTW has everyone forgotten about Roslev or are we all agreed that he isn’t very good ?? The club seemed to resent having to buy THB and Downes, when we went up. Even though one of them, I'm sure, was an option to buy. They felt it took much more out of their budget than they would have liked. Peretz and Larin showed how important it was to use the loan system. I think that they just didn't like the amount, and wished they could negotiate down, rather than being tied to a value. 1
Saint86 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: The club seemed to resent having to buy THB and Downes, when we went up. Even though one of them, I'm sure, was an option to buy. They felt it took much more out of their budget than they would have liked. Peretz and Larin showed how important it was to use the loan system. I think that they just didn't like the amount, and wished they could negotiate down, rather than being tied to a value. The defence doesn't need major work. Bree, manning, Wellington, roerslev, Stephens, wood, quarshie, THB (sold and replaced?), and sansa coming through. Doesn't have to be flash for the championship. Bazunu is left. Ramsdale will leave. A new first choice Keeper is a must. Preferably Peretz 🤷. Midfield sadly I fear for us a bit quality wise. Charles and Jander (both sold and replaced) are almost certainly gone. But at least we'll get paid well for them and they should get replaced with a similar quality of our scouting holds up. It leaves us with Bragg and Downes - clearly lightweight for a 46 game season without major strengthening. Azaz, matsuki, fellows, scienza (sold and replaced?), edozie, and Robinson is okay for the attacking mid/wings - but for me we need one more for quality depth even with scienza staying. Should archer be included here? CF - Larin (signed), Stewart (extended), downs, BBD. It's not bad for the level in truth? But being greedy I'd want one more. Can tonda get the beat out of downs? Anyone know whether there are any more good youth prospects coming through? Edited 7 hours ago by Saint86
Wade Garrett Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 5 hours ago, Mk1J said: Did he play crab football? I thought he was pre crab football. And from memory his departure coincided with the start of a RM losing streak so perhaps he could do a job at this level. But my memory is crap. I wouldn’t swap him for Jander, but I can’t see any way we would keep Jander. JWP is the epitome of crab football. 2
JohnnyShearer2.0 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 5 hours ago, Saint86 said: The defence doesn't need major work. Bree, manning, Wellington, roerslev, Stephens, wood, quarshie, THB (sold and replaced?), and sansa coming through. Doesn't have to be flash for the championship. Bazunu is left. Ramsdale will leave. A new first choice Keeper is a must. Preferably Peretz 🤷. Midfield sadly I fear for us a bit quality wise. Charles and Jander (both sold and replaced) are almost certainly gone. But at least we'll get paid well for them and they should get replaced with a similar quality of our scouting holds up. It leaves us with Bragg and Downes - clearly lightweight for a 46 game season without major strengthening. Azaz, matsuki, fellows, scienza (sold and replaced?), edozie, and Robinson is okay for the attacking mid/wings - but for me we need one more for quality depth even with scienza staying. Should archer be included here? CF - Larin (signed), Stewart (extended), downs, BBD. It's not bad for the level in truth? But being greedy I'd want one more. Can tonda get the beat out of downs? Anyone know whether there are any more good youth prospects coming through? Agree, attack/wings still looks good excluding Scienza. But it would need Edozie and Robinson to step up though.
Baird of the land Posted 55 minutes ago Posted 55 minutes ago 8 hours ago, UpweySaint said: He was consistently one of our better players in the prem and made international appearances. Let’s not be revisionist - his legs haven’t suddenly gone. He was good for us in the prem but that was years ago. He’s 31 now and yes legs do go as players get older, especially one who’s whole success was covering every blade of grass. His fall from grace at WH, forest and Burnley isn’t some glitch.
waterlooville saint Posted 26 minutes ago Posted 26 minutes ago 8 hours ago, Hodgey said: We need to play the loan system, was a big mistake not doing so last summer. Thats how we got up last time, and how we improved in January Get 3 or 4 decent loans in and that should negate the 3-4 top level players we will inevitably lose. Cant see us having much cash to spend with PSR and this being year 3 of parachute payments. Maybe £10-£12m depending on how much we get for players. BTW has everyone forgotten about Roslev or are we all agreed that he isn’t very good ?? I thought we used the loan system well last season, but not so well in our previous promotion season. Being committed to buying THB and insisting on buying Flynn Downes meant we spent nearly £40m of our transfer kitty just putting the squad back near the level of a team that finished 4th in the Championship. Last season we bought our main targets in the Summer and used the loan system to bolster the squad in January. It really depends on our transfer kitty this Summer as to what we do. Hopefully we are able to get good fees for some of our returning players, get a boost from the rumoured clause in Fernandez at West Ham and only have to sell one of our main players if our budget is really squeezed.
hypochondriac Posted 9 minutes ago Posted 9 minutes ago 8 minutes ago, waterlooville saint said: I thought we used the loan system well last season, but not so well in our previous promotion season. Being committed to buying THB and insisting on buying Flynn Downes meant we spent nearly £40m of our transfer kitty just putting the squad back near the level of a team that finished 4th in the Championship. Last season we bought our main targets in the Summer and used the loan system to bolster the squad in January. It really depends on our transfer kitty this Summer as to what we do. Hopefully we are able to get good fees for some of our returning players, get a boost from the rumoured clause in Fernandez at West Ham and only have to sell one of our main players if our budget is really squeezed. We will 100% have to sell more than one of our main players. May as well get used to it. I'm hoping we can restrict the sales to just three. THB, Charles and Jander. If we could somehow persuade Scienza to give us another year that would be huge but likely he goes as well. I'm hoping that we view our priority for this summer to be signing up those players who need signing. So that's Bree, Stewart and Larin if he's up to it. I presume Peretz has gone so a decent championship keeper is a must. If we came out of things with something like Charles Bree Stephens Wood manning Matsuki/fellows Downes Bragg/new signing Edozie/new signing Azaz Stewart/larin/new striker That would be four new signings to replace the likely departures of Archer, Scienza, Jander, Charles, Peretz and THB. Probably a 5th signing if Quarshie leaves too. We'd be weaker in midfield but I'd argue not massively weaker at the back where we had a terrible start anyway.
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