thorpie the sinner Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Not that I'm feeling positive or anything! but i suudenly realised how much two home wins could change the momentum of our season!! With Forest losing 2-0 at this very moment and Plymouth in free fall, two wins will put us right back in mix!!! If our players realise their destiny is still very much in their own hands, we have a more than realistic chance of surviving!! If Forest and Plymouth do lose today and the unthinkable happens and we win, they will not like the feeling of looking over their shoulder!! For one day only, I am wholeheartedly supporting Wotte et al in the hope that we pick up the essential three points!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Man Do Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Good shout Thorpie lets hope the lads actually pull this one out of the bag ... Preston havent lost in 9 games or so though :-s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Le Shearer Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Good shout Thorpie lets hope the lads actually pull this one out of the bag ... Preston havent lost in 9 games or so though :-s if the shoe was on the other foot (Preston NOT winning in 9),I`d be more worried ! and remember,we broke Readings fabulous Championship home record earlier this season.. COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjphilsaint Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 yes this smacks of a mini league lottery kinda thingy dunnit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 21 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Well, I can't argue with that start!!! Some other teams will be bricking themselves now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 3 points from safety with a game in hand... dont we have forest on the last game of the season...? wowzers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 21 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 21 February, 2009 That could well be an interesting game!! I just hope the Saints players enjoy the winning sensation tonight!!! There are some good players at this club who have forgotten how to play!!! lets hope this spurs them on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 one thing we have that the other clubs around us dont...is a top quality striker in sagga.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 21 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 21 February, 2009 totally agree! he really could save us by himself!!! now if Mcgoalshy could match him, then we would have a chance!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Our goal difference sucks + we wont win again for weeks now.....lets not get carried away. we are still sh1t! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 21 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Our goal difference sucks + we wont win again for weeks now.....lets not get carried away. we are still sh1t! Thanks for that!!! Just intimating that a victory is a darn sight more encouraging than a defeat!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Our goal difference sucks + we wont win again for weeks now.....lets not get carried away. we are still sh1t! Yes but the others are all sh1t too. As the original poster says, another win and we'll be right back in the mix. There's too much defeatism on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 22 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 22 February, 2009 I think we are underestimating ourselves!! these players have underperformed in the scoring dept all year but played quite nicely. there are teams out there very nervous this morning!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 22 February, 2009 Share Posted 22 February, 2009 Reading this thread has made me realise what a lottery this league really is. I mean, I know it's tight but I can't believe nobody has really bought this subject up before. We should have had a thread at the start of the season highlighting who's in and out of the relegation battle on a week to week basis. It would have been interesting to see just how quickly things can change. I can just imagine it now....this week "Oooooh we'll survie", next week "sh!t we're doomed", the week after "blimey this is close" etc. Could I suggest that the mods make this a sticky so we can follow Saints and other fellow strugglers problems from now on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 22 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 22 February, 2009 Reading this thread has made me realise what a lottery this league really is. I mean, I know it's tight but I can't believe nobody has really bought this subject up before. We should have had a thread at the start of the season highlighting who's in and out of the relegation battle on a week to week basis. It would have been interesting to see just how quickly things can change. I can just imagine it now....this week "Oooooh we'll survie", next week "sh!t we're doomed", the week after "blimey this is close" etc. Could I suggest that the mods make this a sticky so we can follow Saints and other fellow strugglers problems from now on? I don't think I could live with the pressure!!! It would be my first ever sticky!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 22 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 22 February, 2009 Is there a gold star available?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 22 February, 2009 Share Posted 22 February, 2009 Good thread idea, it'll be interesting to keep track of the teams just around us at the bottom in a kind of relegation mini league. It could all be a game of chance in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 22 February, 2009 Share Posted 22 February, 2009 (edited) teams well and truely in the mix (imo) saints charlton forest plymouth norwich blackpool watford barnsley imo Plymouth forest charlton will go down in that order... I think watford and barnsley have enough to stay up.. Imagine the pressure going to forest on the last day of the season needing a win to stay up...? also, we have to play charlton at home which we would simply have to win...we also have palace at home who are nothing special what so ever...throw in wednesday and blackpool away we have a very good chance to get some important points... and our game in hand....watford away (can only see a defeat there imo) Edited 22 February, 2009 by Thedelldays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire Saint Posted 22 February, 2009 Share Posted 22 February, 2009 An excellent idea Thorpie! I am surprised that none of the admin/mods on this site thought about this idea before or made it a sticky anyway. It is this sort of thread that makes me want to keep reading this board, not the constant "who is to blame for us being sh*t" thread that seem to populate this place. Good thread and I look forward to following it eagerly! Hopefully as a sticky!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 22 February, 2009 Share Posted 22 February, 2009 Reading this thread has made me realise what a lottery this league really is. I mean, I know it's tight but I can't believe nobody has really bought this subject up before. We should have had a thread at the start of the season highlighting who's in and out of the relegation battle on a week to week basis. It would have been interesting to see just how quickly things can change. I can just imagine it now....this week "Oooooh we'll survie", next week "sh!t we're doomed", the week after "blimey this is close" etc. Could I suggest that the mods make this a sticky so we can follow Saints and other fellow strugglers problems from now on? Gphjwill or whatever his name is was running one of these every week. It was quite interesting, not least because some names have disappeared totally off the radar (Doncaster) whilst others slipped away for a bit but are now right back in it (Barnsley). My gut feel is that Charlton have got too much to do, so it will be 2 from us, Norwich, Plymouth & Forest. Norwich have constantly bobbed aroung the 20th place and have never shown any signs of pulling away. They'll be right in it at the end. Forest had a mini revival in Dec/Jan after they beat us, but have not managed to pull away. Although Plymouth have 5/6 points on us, their form ober the last few months is shocking and they have dropped from 7th after about 20 games (they were even in the play off spots at one point) to be in the relegation battle. A slide like that causes problems. Still not in our hands, but we are certainly not in Charlton's position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 22 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 22 February, 2009 An excellent idea Thorpie! I am surprised that none of the admin/mods on this site thought about this idea before or made it a sticky anyway. It is this sort of thread that makes me want to keep reading this board, not the constant "who is to blame for us being sh*t" thread that seem to populate this place. Good thread and I look forward to following it eagerly! Hopefully as a sticky!! Thanks!! i just need to attach it to all my posts now!! seriously, I think the comments on here last night and this morning have proved how much behind the team we are!! finally the players seem to be realising it as well!! We need to beat Cardiff now, but if we sweat blood next sat and come up short, it will still be a big improvement!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 22 February, 2009 Share Posted 22 February, 2009 Thanks!! i just need to attach it to all my posts now!! seriously, I think the comments on here last night and this morning have proved how much behind the team we are!! finally the players seem to be realising it as well!! We need to beat Cardiff now, but if we sweat blood next sat and come up short, it will still be a big improvement!! beating cardiff will be a big ask....they are a very very good team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 22 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 22 February, 2009 beating cardiff will be a big ask....they are a very very good team I think any points we pick up now will be welcome!!! i would settle for a point if it was coupled with a battling performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 22 February, 2009 Share Posted 22 February, 2009 beating cardiff will be a big ask....they are a very very good team I agree that it will be a much tougher ask than Preston and arguably a point is probably on the cards and would be a good result IMHO. Preston don't travel well and have only won 3 on their travels and lost 8 (it's their 12 wins at home that have put them up the top end of the table). However, Cardiff have only lost twice away, but they have drawn 9 so I would be happy to make it 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 22 February, 2009 Share Posted 22 February, 2009 yep...a draw at home to cardiff would be a good result.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjphilsaint Posted 22 February, 2009 Share Posted 22 February, 2009 (edited) Gphjwill or whatever his name is was running one of these every week. It was quite interesting, not least because some names have disappeared totally off the radar (Doncaster) whilst others slipped away for a bit but are now right back in it (Barnsley). My gut feel is that Charlton have got too much to do, so it will be 2 from us, Norwich, Plymouth & Forest. Norwich have constantly bobbed aroung the 20th place and have never shown any signs of pulling away. They'll be right in it at the end. Forest had a mini revival in Dec/Jan after they beat us, but have not managed to pull away. Although Plymouth have 5/6 points on us, their form ober the last few months is shocking and they have dropped from 7th after about 20 games (they were even in the play off spots at one point) to be in the relegation battle. A slide like that causes problems. Still not in our hands, but we are certainly not in Charlton's position. yes you are right i was running a thread which can still be found in the depths , apparently was criticised as being moribund...! http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=1783 Edited 22 February, 2009 by gjphilsaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 22 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 22 February, 2009 I like to think its great minds think alike!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 22 February, 2009 Share Posted 22 February, 2009 Reading this thread has made me realise what a lottery this league really is. I mean, I know it's tight but I can't believe nobody has really bought this subject up before. We should have had a thread at the start of the season highlighting who's in and out of the relegation battle on a week to week basis. It would have been interesting to see just how quickly things can change. I can just imagine it now....this week "Oooooh we'll survie", next week "sh!t we're doomed", the week after "blimey this is close" etc. Could I suggest that the mods make this a sticky so we can follow Saints and other fellow strugglers problems from now on? Completely agree. It's getting like a 4 or 5 team lottery down there now. Shame we haven't been tracking this all season. Fully in support of this becoming a sticky as we enter the "squaky bum time" of the end of season run-in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadeem Hardison Posted 22 February, 2009 Share Posted 22 February, 2009 I agree with the lottery analogy that 'jawillwill' came up with. It is so tight down the bottom that we may as well just decide relegation on a scratchcard! Lol! In all seriousness, this is a great idea for a thread. We should update each week as to who is in and out of the relegation lottery. I imagine with it being so tight, things will change really quickly from week to week. As thedelldays said, perhaps 6 points out of the next 15 could be enough to rise out of it! Current lottery mini league contenders: Saints Charlton Forest Plymouth Norwich Blackpool Watford Barnsley STICKY PLEASE MODS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 22 February, 2009 Share Posted 22 February, 2009 It's not a lottery because lotteries are about luck. If we pull it together it will be through a solid defence, hard work, good management - maybe Wotte can do that after all - and hard work. Luck doesn't enter into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 22 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 22 February, 2009 It's not a lottery because lotteries are about luck. If we pull it together it will be through a solid defence, hard work, good management - maybe Wotte can do that after all - and hard work. Luck doesn't enter into it. Agree with the hard work ethic, i would still prefer to have lady luck in our corner!! i do wonder who is the most worried tonight!!! Luggy must be slightly concerned i would have thought!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 22 February, 2009 Share Posted 22 February, 2009 Our goal difference sucks + we wont win again for weeks now.....lets not get carried away. we are still sh1t! Though bad, we turned the goal difference around by 4 goals today. A couple of similar days will see us catch and pass our relegation threatened opponents with our goal difference improving. Hope springs eternal if we can beat Cardiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 22 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 22 February, 2009 Back to back wins, have we gone stark raving mad??????? COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 22 February, 2009 Share Posted 22 February, 2009 We have to hope don't we? What else is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 22 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 22 February, 2009 If you look up southampton in the dictionary, the definition is home of dreamers and blind optimists!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 22 February, 2009 Share Posted 22 February, 2009 After 50 plus years as a saints fan I've seen a lot of ups and downs. I still have dreams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 22 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 22 February, 2009 so do I!! Most have been shattered this season! They will never die though!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 22 February, 2009 Share Posted 22 February, 2009 That is what it is all about. Accepting the bad and loving the good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjphilsaint Posted 23 February, 2009 Share Posted 23 February, 2009 Completely agree. It's getting like a 4 or 5 team lottery down there now. Shame we haven't been tracking this all season. Fully in support of this becoming a sticky as we enter the "squaky bum time" of the end of season run-in. you are of course Deano my mucker... totally right what a good idea... what a ground breaker you are!!!!!!!! http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=1783 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadeem Hardison Posted 23 February, 2009 Share Posted 23 February, 2009 WIth Cardiff playing Sunday, Wednesday and Saturday we may have a better chance this weekend. Plymouth have a tough game at Wolves and Blackpool will continue to drop against Bristol City. Forest take on a practically unbeatable at home Reading. And Norwich v Cov could go either way. This could be the weekend when we get the bonus ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 23 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 23 February, 2009 WIth Cardiff playing Sunday, Wednesday and Saturday we may have a better chance this weekend. Plymouth have a tough game at Wolves and Blackpool will continue to drop against Bristol City. Forest take on a practically unbeatable at home Reading. And Norwich v Cov could go either way. This could be the weekend when we get the bonus ball. Lets hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 23 February, 2009 Share Posted 23 February, 2009 We will walk this mini league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 23 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 23 February, 2009 Get in!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 23 February, 2009 Share Posted 23 February, 2009 Don't know about walk but we must have a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junction 9 Posted 23 February, 2009 Share Posted 23 February, 2009 This is the first time I've seen this thread. Top idea!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 24 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 February, 2009 Right the table will look like this in my opinion on sat: 24 Charlton 26 points 23 Saints 34 points 22 N forest 34 points 21 Plymouth 36 points 20 Norwich 36 points 19 Barnsley 37 points 18 Blackpool 37 points I have actually been unbiased in my opinion, so how good would this look on sat if all these results came in!! ( i owed it to my thread to put predictions here also, ha ah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 Right the table will look like this in my opinion on sat: 24 Charlton 26 points 23 Saints 34 points 22 N forest 34 points 21 Plymouth 36 points 20 Norwich 36 points 19 Barnsley 37 points 18 Blackpool 37 points I have actually been unbiased in my opinion, so how good would this look on sat if all these results came in!! ( i owed it to my thread to put predictions here also, ha ah! Can't see us beating Cardiff, but apart from that I would agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 Right the table will look like this in my opinion on sat: 24 Charlton 26 points 23 Saints 34 points 22 N forest 34 points 21 Plymouth 36 points 20 Norwich 36 points 19 Barnsley 37 points 18 Blackpool 37 points I have actually been unbiased in my opinion, so how good would this look on sat if all these results came in!! ( i owed it to my thread to put predictions here also, ha ah! If that happens, all of a sudden it all looks much tighter. I can't see Charlton making up a 10/11 point gap in the 12 or so games left, so they have all but gone. However, any of the rest could take the remaining 2 relegation places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 If that is close to Saturday nights league table we will be well and truly on the way up. Still have to beat Cardiff though which won't be as easy as Preston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 Can't see us beating Cardiff, but apart from that I would agree. Norwich won't beat Coventry on Saturday. We'll be above them and on equal points with Forest (although we'll have a game in hand). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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