Guided Missile Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Away from the overreaction to our inevitable demotion to League One, with all it's attendant hysterical wailing and pointless blame laying, I thought it may help to start a thread, in which calmness reigns and only positive thoughts are present. The only rules on this thread are, (if we can manage it): Politeness and sympathy for your fellow poster/fan No blaming anyone for the past Only positive posts about the present and future of the club Humour and support from/for all Call it a therapy thread, if you like. Therapy for the only assets that the administrator can't sell, yet are the club's greatest treasure, the fanbase. I would like to start by hoping that from this day on, the fans can continue to show the rest of the country how we respond to adversity. I am sure that when we stand inside our magnificant stadium, in the warm Spring Southampton sunshine, at the end of the next game, knowing that we are down, "Always Look on the Bright Side of Life" will echo round the ground and we will know that starting next season, we can only expect better things. So, my first positive thought is how much of a cult team we will become, stripped of our Championship arrogance and money. A sort of hard southern enclave of the underdog, swaying the neutral and earning respect. Working class, now Lowe has gone and southern to the core, now Wilde has gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Ok i will try to be positive.............. Oh well wheres my beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Working class? So no aim to unite the fanbase there then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 When we have all learned to love each other and our fellow fans I truly hope that next year we may turn over a new leaf by having our shirts sponsored in a carbon neutral manner by people who are saving the planet for our children I believe that we should have real ale on sale and some nice tables and chairs in a penned area outside the stadium so we may relax have a smoke and enjoy meeting with each other and looking back on those old crazy days and laughing I'm off to hug a tree, thanks for the idea GM But we cannot sing a Manc song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 I'm actually ambivalent about relegation and fully accept football is built on meritocracy. I enjoy watching Saints play any team and started out when we were in the old Division Two so a sojourn in Division Three doesn't hold any fear for me. Some of my mates were/are even up for a stint in the lower leagues if it all really goes tts up, with some fun away days to Bemerton, Hamworthy et al. Onwards and upwards, it all goes in circles at the end of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Leslie Charteris Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 We will be taken over by Souness and a Dubai-financed consortium who's only concern is building SFC gradually into the greatest team in the land... Hey there's a pig flying outside my window! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 I'm actually ambivalent about relegation and fully accept football is built on meritocracy. I enjoy watching Saints play any team and started out when we were in the old Division Two so a sojourn in Division Three doesn't hold any fear for me. Some of my mates were/are even up for a stint in the lower leagues if it all really goes tts up, with some fun away days to Bemerton, Hamworthy et al. Onwards and upwards, it all goes in circles at the end of the day. I'm sure and hope you meant cycles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 We will be taken over by Souness and a Dubai-financed consortium who's only concern is building SFC gradually into the greatest team in the land... Hey there's a pig flying outside my window! Not Souness, please no. Let's just have someone with a bit of dress sense, eh? Gullit maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 I'm sure and hope you meant cycles... I've been drinking all afternoon and on the BBQ so please exucse any faux pas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Not Souness, please no. Let's just have someone with a bit of dress sense, eh? Gullit maybe. We will be taken over by (you fill in the blank) and a Dubai-financed consortium who's only concern is building SFC gradually into the greatest team in the land... How about that then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 We will be taken over by Souness and a Dubai-financed consortium who's only concern is building SFC gradually into the greatest team in the land... Hey there's a pig flying outside my window! Keeping positive of course, that would be a Pig and Dubai mentioned in the same context there....8-[ And unfortunately anyone financed by Dubai at the moment is likely to be a bigger fiscal basket case than that Football woning thing which existed in those old days we laugh so much about now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 We will be taken over by (you fill in the blank) and a Dubai-financed consortium who's only concern is building SFC gradually into the greatest team in the land... How about that then? Shiekh Hamdan Al Maktoum - close personal friend of Michael Channon Snr. You heard it here first my friend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Shiekh Hamdan Al Maktoum - close personal friend of Michael Channon Snr. You heard it here first my friend! Hey, he could run out a few horses at Jackson's Farm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 18 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Working class? So no aim to unite the fanbase there then...Legod, I really do feel your anger. Whatever has separated us before will unite us from now on. I appreciate my poor use of the "Working Class" term, but I sense that with the meltdown in the financial market and the end of easy money in the boardroom, we will all have to work for our money, rather than lazily enjoy capital gains on the back of investments. In a sense, then, I feel all of us, in this new world, will become "Working Class". What better than having a modest and well run club to support in the future, living on the income from it's fans and representing the future. I hope you understand that I wasn't trying to separate the fanbase, but like the recession we are going through, many wrongs will be righted by this relegation and we will both live to see a better life in the future. I also hope that I can meet you one day at St. Marys and put a smile on your face. You deserve this at least, like all our long suffering fans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Maybe tommorow i'll partake in the philosphical love in, but at present i'm still fuming at the gutless performance today AND the the fact this season and the relegation should not have happened. Nigel Pearson WOULD have kept us up. No doubt about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Shiekh Hamdan Al Maktoum - close personal friend of Michael Channon Snr. You heard it here first my friend! :smt090 :smt044 ](*,) Oh my that's made my day, funniest post of the lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 To have someone in charge who understands football would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 I'm actually ambivalent about relegation and fully accept football is built on meritocracy. I enjoy watching Saints play any team and started out when we were in the old Division Two so a sojourn in Division Three doesn't hold any fear for me. Some of my mates were/are even up for a stint in the lower leagues if it all really goes tts up, with some fun away days to Bemerton, Hamworthy et al. Onwards and upwards, it all goes in circles at the end of the day. Same as that really. What goes round and all that. You never know the good times if you haven't experienced the bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Legod, I really do feel your anger. Whatever has separated us before will unite us from now on. I appreciate my poor use of the "Working Class" term, but I sense that with the meltdown in the financial market and the end of easy money in the boardroom, we will all have to work for our money, rather than lazily enjoy capital gains on the back of investments. In a sense, then, I feel all of us, in this new world, will become "Working Class". What better than having a modest and well run club to support in the future, living on the income from it's fans and representing the future. I hope you understand that I wasn't trying to separate the fanbase, but like the recession we are going through, many wrongs will be righted by this relegation and we will both live to see a better life in the future. I also hope that I can meet you one day at St. Marys and put a smile on your face. You deserve this at least, like all our long suffering fans... And all these years, I didn't have you down as Lucy Pinder... (FWIW, I am proudly working class, but I have no desire to introduce yet another battle to the stands...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exit2 Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1loyjm4SOa0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 when we were relegated from premiership I stopped looking forward to seeing any particular opposition team, and rarely knew more than one player in their side. going to the first isn't really going to be that different than this season in many ways - apart from you are always at least one more year away from premiership (in that in ccc you can always console yourself that all you need is one Hull type season and you are back in premiership) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 18 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 18 April, 2009 I'm actually ambivalent about relegation and fully accept football is built on meritocracy. I enjoy watching Saints play any team and started out when we were in the old Division Two so a sojourn in Division Three doesn't hold any fear for me. Some of my mates were/are even up for a stint in the lower leagues if it all really goes tts up, with some fun away days to Bemerton, Hamworthy et al. Onwards and upwards, it all goes in circles at the end of the day. Steve, like Wes Tender and Alpine Saint, I have taken you off ignore and I've got to tell you how good it feels. You have tried so hard to help Saints with not a thought of monetary reward and I hope you can accept my sincere apologies for a lot of what I've posted. The club needs supporters like you and a loyal post like the one above is nothing less than the posters on this forum would have expected from you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 when we were relegated from premiership I stopped looking forward to seeing any particular opposition team, and rarely knew more than one player in their side. going to the first isn't really going to be that different than this season in many ways - apart from you are always at least one more year away from premiership (in that in ccc you can always console yourself that all you need is one Hull type season and you are back in premiership) But in Hull you have the perfect model (albeit they will end up relegated this year) but I meant the upward bit of their curve!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Steve, like Wes Tender and Alpine Saint, I have taken you off ignore and I've got to tell you how good it feels. You have tried so hard to help Saints with not a thought of monetary reward and I hope you can accept my sincere apologies for a lot of what I've posted. The club needs supporters like you and a loyal post like the one above is nothing less than the posters on this forum would have expected from you... John, have you been diagnosed with a terminal illness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouchie's Lawyer Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Positivity eh? Erm... At least we will walk League one, it will be nice to be relegated to win a few games rather than losing all the time... Oh wait.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rover Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 I'm actually ambivalent. I did wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Steve, like Wes Tender and Alpine Saint, I have taken you off ignore and I've got to tell you how good it feels. You have tried so hard to help Saints with not a thought of monetary reward and I hope you can accept my sincere apologies for a lot of what I've posted. The club needs supporters like you and a loyal post like the one above is nothing less than the posters on this forum would have expected from you... Get a grip you fcking big girls blouse. You'll be asking for a cuddle next and from what I've heard you're not that pretty;). But in all seriousness there is so much more that unites us than divides us, and we only get all grouchy and p1ssy up on here because we're all so passionate about our Club. Whatever happens we'll always be Saints. No hard feelings John and as I have said on many occasions I would be only too happy to stand you a pint when our paths eventually cross. Onwards and upwards. (PS Please accept my apologies for any personal insults or unnecessary comments over these last few very difficult years). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 18 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Maybe tommorow i'll partake in the philosphical love in, but at present i'm still fuming at the gutless performance today AND the the fact this season and the relegation should not have happened. Nigel Pearson WOULD have kept us up. No doubt about it.Stanley, feel free to let it go, but try and channel your thoughts and energy into something positive. Hate leads to destruction, anger leads to self-destruction and there is so much to be positive about. We live in God's chosen country, with a fantastic stadium which will be around long after you use a bus pass to get to it. Our relegation will release so much affection for the plight of the club that our subsequent promotion is all but assured. ...and remember, Lowe and Wilde are gone...forever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Working class? So no aim to unite the fanbase there then... I'm not so sure you're right there. I can see where John's going with this. We've become a soft , corporate whore of a club that seems to just attract ridicule like a moth to a flame. It's not about the obvious Lowe/class conatation, but more of a shift to bringing football back to the people. It's been a "rich" man's plaything for far too long. Get rid of the big small club mentality and bring the club back to the heart of the city... Good posts John, damn good posts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 18 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 18 April, 2009 John, have you been diagnosed with a terminal illness?Is that your best f***ing effort at a positive post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Stanley, feel free to let it go, but try and channel your thoughts and energy into something positive. Hate leads to destruction, anger leads to self-destruction and there is so much to be positive about. We live in God's chosen country, with a fantastic stadium which will be around long after you use a bus pass to get to it. Our relegation will release so much affection for the plight of the club that our subsequent promotion is all but assured. ...and remember, Lowe and Wilde are gone...forever... Have you seen the rust? It's certainly not built to last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Have you seen the rust? It's certainly not built to last. Was it built for comfort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bollards Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Good evening. I watched you lot snipe at each other for a few years now. I've no idea who any of you are. (This first name terms stuff un-nerves me.) But if this is the time to have a Saints related love-in and look to the future then count me in. Right, more lager is now needed I think.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 18 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 18 April, 2009 I'm not so sure you're right there. I can see where John's going with this. We've become a soft , corporate whore of a club that seems to just attract ridicule like a moth to a flame. It's not about the obvious Lowe/class conatation, but more of a shift to bringing football back to the people. It's been a "rich" man's plaything for far too long. Get rid of the big small club mentality and bring the club back to the heart of the city... Good posts John, damn good posts... Daren, you and I haven't seen eye to eye in the past, but your email address, long since deleted, was on my contact list due to my desire to contribute to the Beautiful South. Instead, you got a copy of an email to my bank manager at Barclays re my overdraft. You will be delighted to know that when that f***ing bank put the squeeze on me and my company about 9 months ago, I was able tell them to shove their overdraft and I paid it off, due to the great year we had in 2008. This might seem like a John Smith moment, but it really isn't. This year has been cr @p so far, to be honest. But what I have learnt this season, is to pick my fights with the right f***ing people and you, as a fellow Saints fan and passionate charity worker, are not one of them. Go in peace... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP Saint Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Stanley, feel free to let it go, but try and channel your thoughts and energy into something positive. Hate leads to destruction, anger leads to self-destruction and there is so much to be positive about. We live in God's chosen country, with a fantastic stadium which will be around long after you use a bus pass to get to it. Our relegation will release so much affection for the plight of the club that our subsequent promotion is all but assured. ...and remember, Lowe and Wilde are gone...forever... Now I know for sure you're extracting the urine GM. It's very funny but you won't keep it up. By the way I think Tijuana Tim does the character better than you. Tijuana Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exit2 Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 John, I have just checked your ip to make sure someone hasnt hacked your account Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Daren, you and I haven't seen eye to eye in the past, but your email address, long since deleted, was on my contact list due to my desire to contribute to the Beautiful South. Instead, you got a copy of an email to my bank manager at Barclays re my overdraft. You will be delighted to know that when that f***ing bank put the squeeze on me and my company about 9 months ago, I was able tell them to shove their overdraft and I paid it off, due to the great year we had in 2008. This might seem like a John Smith moment, but it really isn't. This year has been cr @p so far, to be honest. But what I have learnt this season, is to pick my fights with the right f***ing people and you, as a fellow Saints fan and passionate charity worker, are not one of them. Go in peace... John, the point is you were right then and I was wrong. I have no problem admitting that, Wilde was a ****ing chancer and you saw that, I didn't. I have never had a problem with you as I always suspected/knew that issues aside, you were red and white through and through and if we ever met for a beer we'd get on, deny it later and argue online later... Your thread is just what the board needs, proper positivity, no more pro Lowe/anti Lowe crap just looking forward to the next season... Good on you fella.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Was it built for comfort? Well it evidently was not built for speed - that's for sure...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Stanley, feel free to let it go, but try and channel your thoughts and energy into something positive. Hate leads to destruction, anger leads to self-destruction and there is so much to be positive about. We live in God's chosen country, with a fantastic stadium which will be around long after you use a bus pass to get to it. Our relegation will release so much affection for the plight of the club that our subsequent promotion is all but assured. ...and remember, Lowe and Wilde are gone...forever... That last bit, it is a promise. . . isn't it? Perlease say it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 John, I have just checked your ip to make sure someone hasnt hacked your account Nice one! :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouchie's Lawyer Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Hate leads to destruction, anger leads to self-destruction Alright Yoda! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 All we want now is Alpine and FC to book a skiing holiday together....... Today has been tough I felt wretched and full of hate towards Lowe an hour ago but you know what this is now about Saints survival as a club, Lowe is history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsdan Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Have you seen the rust? It's certainly not built to last. Was it built for comfort? Well it evidently was not built for speed - that's for sure...! If you're ever in Sholing....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Whilst we are having this love-in, I would like to invite Alpine_Saint and Nineteen Canteen round to my place for a chinwag (I am actually quite serious as I am intrigued to meet the more extreme characters of this site) ! So far everybody that I've met in the flesh has been great ( kindred spirits and all that ) whereas the written word loses body language completely and tends to make views more entrenched by the minute !!! Peace to all mankind ! Euro. :):) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 If you're ever in Sholing....... Don't go by Bitterne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Don't go by Bitterne That's the long way round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 18 April, 2009 Share Posted 18 April, 2009 As an afterthought.. Next season can we PLEASE try sing the Woolston ferry at games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 18 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 18 April, 2009 Today has been tough I felt wretched and full of hate towards Lowe an hour ago but you know what this is now about Saints survival as a club, Lowe is history. Duncan, when you update your marvellous book on the history of Southampton Football Club, I wonder where no-marks like Wilde and Lowe will rank alongside Charlie Miller, teaching the Brazillians how to play football, Matt Le Tissier teaching the world how to score great goals, Ted Bates teaching the World about loyalty to one club and our fans teaching Arsenal fans how to support a losing club in the FA Cup Final. You have many chapters left to write and I have a feeling the best is yet to come, with Wilde and Lowe a sad footnote... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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