Just back from the game.

[silversaint]

Just back from the game and as much as I hate to say it today was one of the worst performances I have ever seen in my 23 years following saints. From the off we didn't have any passion and were beaten by a VERY average team. The players looked like they knew relegation was looming and the only players who showed any passion were Wotton SIZE and Kelv. I felt too embaressed to boo or clap at the end. Although staying up is still possible I feel we need to be realistic and try and keep hold of certain players for next year. Despite his screamer last week McGoldrick looked absolutely awful and well off the pace, i don't think he completed one pass. Today was horrific to watch for the fans who made the journey, and unfortunately I can't see it getting any better until next season at best.

[John B]

Just back from the game and as much as I hate to say it today was one of the worst performances I have ever seen in my 23 years following saints. From the off we didn't have any passion and were beaten by a VERY average team. The players looked like they knew relegation was looming and the only players who showed any passion were Wotton SIZE and Kelv. I felt too embaressed to boo or clap at the end. Although staying up is still possible I feel we need to be realistic and try and keep hold of certain players for next year. Despite his screamer last week McGoldrick looked absolutely awful and well off the pace, i don't think he completed one pass. Today was horrific to watch for the fans who made the journey, and unfortunately I can't see it getting any better until next season at best.

 

Stuart Hall on Radio 5 Live said he felt sorry for the fans as the Saints were awful

[Fitzhugh Fella]

Stuart Hall on Radio 5 Live said he felt sorry for the fans as the Saints were awful

 

There is no disgrace in losing as long as you give it your best shot. If the players did not do that today then quite frankly it is scandalous. We are fighting for our very existance and it sounds like the players couldn't give a damn. Ted Bates must be turning in his grave.

[John B]

There is no disgrace in losing as long as you give it your best shot. If the players did not do that today then quite frankly it is scandalous. We are fighting for our very existance and it sounds like the players couldn't give a damn. Ted Bates must be turning in his grave.

 

He also said at 2.45 he had been in the dressing room expecting it to be a scene of positivity but it was far from that everybody was sitting around glumly although one person was eating a banana

[John B]

There is no disgrace in losing as long as you give it your best shot. If the players did not do that today then quite frankly it is scandalous. We are fighting for our very existance and it sounds like the players couldn't give a damn. Ted Bates must be turning in his grave.

 

In 1974 I went to Goodison when we went down and we won easily which made it not such a bad trip.

 

 

But today as on other Saturdays a good performance has been followed by a poor one.

 

You would have thought with our team we could have won at least another three games this season

[egreog]

The whole thing is a joke.......on the OS they talk of "fighting"......what a bunch of losers.......Sheff Wed had nothing to play for, the ideal side to play in Saints predicament.....so what do they do?.........sod all and make fools of the fans that made an 8 hr plus round trip............they are a total embarrassment and deserve to walk out the door sooner rather than later and be replaced with some lads who actually show that they care!!

[Saint in Paradise]

Ted Bates must be turning in his grave.

 

Mr Bates grave must be red hot as I bet he is spinning at 1000 rpm not just turning

[Smirking_Saint]

We are down, i am usually optimistic but thats it now, we are down.

[nathan]

Just back as well and it was terrible today. A wednesday fan came up to me at the end and said he felt really sorry for us. The players showed no fight or passion.

[John B]

Just back as well and it was terrible today. A wednesday fan came up to me at the end and said he felt really sorry for us. The players showed no fight or passion.

 

Most of the players will be off anyway so they dont really care do they

[hoozonside10]

The whole thing is a joke.......on the OS they talk of "fighting"......what a bunch of losers.......Sheff Wed had nothing to play for, the ideal side to play in Saints predicament.....so what do they do?.........sod all and make fools of the fans that made an 8 hr plus round trip............they are a total embarrassment and deserve to walk out the door sooner rather than later and be replaced with some lads who actually show that they care!!

 

I totally agree - this bunch don't seem to care, the only problem I have is that we've now played the "kids" who were supposed to be the ones who gave a damn, who else is there? Next season we are going to either rely on whoever we can drag out of our current reserves as any half decent players we do have will be off (no great loss agreed) or league one journeymen - who wont care at all as they know they will be surplus to requirements come the end of a successful season (again, it is understood this is far from a given!).

 

I suppose at the beginning of next season we should just be grateful if we still have a club to support.

[Saint Fen]

Just got back and it was absolutely shocking, we look so bad and there is no positive to take from todays game.

 

No fighting spirt, nothing up front and an awful midfield. Whatever league we are in next season (League 1 99.99% I'm sure) we will need plenty of new faces.

[Blanco Saint]

Just back from the game and as much as I hate to say it today was one of the worst performances I have ever seen in my 23 years following saints. From the off we didn't have any passion and were beaten by a VERY average team. The players looked like they knew relegation was looming and the only players who showed any passion were Wotton SIZE and Kelv. I felt too embaressed to boo or clap at the end. Although staying up is still possible I feel we need to be realistic and try and keep hold of certain players for next year. Despite his screamer last week McGoldrick looked absolutely awful and well off the pace, i don't think he completed one pass. Today was horrific to watch for the fans who made the journey, and unfortunately I can't see it getting any better until next season at best.

 

Oh dear. Was it worse than that toothless display at Bristol Rovers in the cup last season?

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

Oh dear. Was it worse than that toothless display at Bristol Rovers in the cup last season?

 

Almost certainly not , but relegation to L1 is a rather more serious issue than losing a FA cup tie is it not ?

[Leslie Charteris]

Stuart Hall on Radio 5 Live said he felt sorry for the fans as the Saints were awful

 

Near the end he also said "Southampton? Oh dear..."

[Fitzhugh Fella]

He also said at 2.45 he had been in the dressing room expecting it to be a scene of positivity but it was far from that everybody was sitting around glumly although one person was eating a banana

 

Well that sounds like Wotte was not doing his job.

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

He also said at 2.45 he had been in the dressing room expecting it to be a scene of positivity but it was far from that everybody was sitting around glumly although one person was eating a banana

 

We can now only afford 1 banana per game, so the other players we're clearly gutted to have missed out.

[John B]

Well that sounds like Wotte was not doing his job.

 

Yes all down to the manager then nothing to do with highly paid professional footballers earning over £500000 annually not performing then.

[John B]

We can now only afford 1 banana per game' date=' so the other players we're clearly gutted to have missed out.[/quote']

 

I was wondering who was eating it but at 2.45 I was expecting the worst

[The Tango Man]

There is no disgrace in losing as long as you give it your best shot. If the players did not do that today then quite frankly it is scandalous. We are fighting for our very existance and it sounds like the players couldn't give a damn. Ted Bates must be turning in his grave.

 

All the other Saints legends must be turning in their graves as well ..the current side have no passion, no leadership on or off the field..no back bone and no proven goal scorer.

 

Thanks Rupert Lowe for everything you did for our once great club.....

[SaintRobbie]

There is no disgrace in losing as long as you give it your best shot. If the players did not do that today then quite frankly it is scandalous. We are fighting for our very existance and it sounds like the players couldn't give a damn. Ted Bates must be turning in his grave.

 

Agree. Wholeheartedly agree. But, fight comes from leadership and that's down to Lowe's appintment of JP and Wotte. Didnt see Leicester City lacking fight today.

Edited 18 April, 2009 by SaintRobbie

[saint_bert]

I take my hat off to everyone of the Saints fans today. You didnt deserve that. None of us did but you guys went all the way up there to see a gutless, spineless performance.

 

I truely believe the only thing this club has going for it, is us fans

[forever a red and white]

i went it was not good to say the least. The only outfield player of any note that played alright was McGoldrick. Very disapointing, we were desperate for the points Wednesday didn't need them, but judged on the performance u would think they were the team at the bottom they way they fought for the points.

[SaintRobbie]

I just reread some of the posts on this thread.

 

I actually feel a little sick knowing that the players put in such a disgustingly poor performance.

 

Clear out in League 1 may be required. We may as well start with the kids now they're broken.

[Andoverian]

All the other Saints legends must be turning in their graves as well ..the current side have no passion, no leadership on or off the field..no back bone and no proven goal scorer.

 

Thanks Rupert Lowe for everything you did for our once great club.....

 

Just back from the game and all the way back I have been thinking about the way we have plummeted down the football ladder. I know that there are people on this forum who seem to have a problem accepting where the blame lays but there is only really one place for the blame and that is Lowe. He will forever have a place in the history of this once great club ( I have been a supporter for 55 years) as the bloke who brought the club to it's lowest ever point. We will rise from the ashes but never again must someone like Lowe be allowed to occupy such a position of power. I could spend hours going into why he was such a disaster but it has been said many times before on this forum. Please God he is gone forever but true Saints fans remain and we will continue to get this club back on it's feet. It might take time and there is no doubt now that we are relegated but we will return in due course and with luck we will be stronger and will learn from the catalogue of mistakes and mismanagement of recent years. Finally many congratulations to Leicester City and especially Nigel Pearson. But for Lowe this talented and charismatic manager would have stayed with us.

[MOSaint.]

Just back from the game and all the way back I have been thinking about the way we have plummeted down the football ladder. I know that there are people on this forum who seem to have a problem accepting where the blame lays but there is only really one place for the blame and that is Lowe. He will forever have a place in the history of this once great club ( I have been a supporter for 55 years) as the bloke who brought the club to it's lowest ever point. We will rise from the ashes but never again must someone like Lowe be allowed to occupy such a position of power. I could spend hours going into why he was such a disaster but it has been said many times before on this forum. Please God he is gone forever but true Saints fans remain and we will continue to get this club back on it's feet. It might take time and there is no doubt now that we are relegated but we will return in due course and with luck we will be stronger and will learn from the catalogue of mistakes and mismanagement of recent years. Finally many congratulations to Leicester City and especially Nigel Pearson. But for Lowe this talented and charismatic manager would have stayed with us.

 

Well said!!

[SaintRobbie]

Just back from the game and all the way back I have been thinking about the way we have plummeted down the football ladder. I know that there are people on this forum who seem to have a problem accepting where the blame lays but there is only really one place for the blame and that is Lowe. He will forever have a place in the history of this once great club ( I have been a supporter for 55 years) as the bloke who brought the club to it's lowest ever point. We will rise from the ashes but never again must someone like Lowe be allowed to occupy such a position of power. I could spend hours going into why he was such a disaster but it has been said many times before on this forum. Please God he is gone forever but true Saints fans remain and we will continue to get this club back on it's feet. It might take time and there is no doubt now that we are relegated but we will return in due course and with luck we will be stronger and will learn from the catalogue of mistakes and mismanagement of recent years. Finally many congratulations to Leicester City and especially Nigel Pearson. But for Lowe this talented and charismatic manager would have stayed with us.

 

And on that golden post summary of the days lowelites, I bid you all goodnight.

[ladysaint]

Spineless and gutless again no fight, no enthusiam, no urgency really dont know what else to say I think we had one shot on goal in the whole 90 minutes. Can we go any lower than this. Nice to hear NP on the radio on the way home though and congratulations to him, maybe if he stayed with us we would have been gaining promotion not getting relegated instead.

[Block 5]

Just back from Sheffield.

What a shambles.

Incompetent defending, impotent attacking.

Another new low point...........

Hopefully I will still have a club to support in league 1 next season, but if I was going to buy a football club, I'd rather spend £1 buying Salisbury than the shower of utter sh1te I watched today.

[CLOTH EARS]

The fact is the players are not good enough, but if you are crap and you aint trying very hard then you have not got a ****ing hope! To go down without a fight is totally acceptable!!! Quite evidently a TOTAL clear out is required as the current manager and players would be incapable of mounting a promotion push in League One ( thats assuming the club are around long enough to play in League One ). I would like to say well done to all you Saints fans who followed the team up there today. AT LEAST YOU GAVE YOUR ALL!!!.

[BallBoy]

Just back from the game and all the way back I have been thinking about the way we have plummeted down the football ladder. I know that there are people on this forum who seem to have a problem accepting where the blame lays but there is only really one place for the blame and that is Lowe. He will forever have a place in the history of this once great club ( I have been a supporter for 55 years) as the bloke who brought the club to it's lowest ever point. We will rise from the ashes but never again must someone like Lowe be allowed to occupy such a position of power. I could spend hours going into why he was such a disaster but it has been said many times before on this forum. Please God he is gone forever but true Saints fans remain and we will continue to get this club back on it's feet. It might take time and there is no doubt now that we are relegated but we will return in due course and with luck we will be stronger and will learn from the catalogue of mistakes and mismanagement of recent years. Finally many congratulations to Leicester City and especially Nigel Pearson. But for Lowe this talented and charismatic manager would have stayed with us.

 

 

Totally agree. I know hindsight is 20/20 but there were many who said this at the beginning of the season. Getting rid of Pearson was was the worst decision among a catalogue of disastrous footballing decisions made by Lowe. The galling arrogance of this man who still cannot see what he has done wrong is beyond comprehension.

[Fitzhugh Fella]

Yes all down to the manager then nothing to do with highly paid professional footballers earning over £500000 annually not performing then.

 

It's a manager's job to send the players out in the right frame of mind - it seems he failed. Sure the players have got to take a lot of blame but so must Wotte.

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

Totally agree. I know hindsight is 20/20 but there were many who said this at the beginning of the season. Getting rid of Pearson was was the worst decision among a catalogue of disastrous footballing decisions made by Lowe. The galling arrogance of this man who still cannot see what he has done wrong is beyond comprehension.

 

 

I find myself simultaneously in total agreement and yet somehow not entirely convinced by the above .

 

The fact that is was an monumental error letting Pearson go is accepted by almost everyone on here (the odd troll or idiot aside) but I just can't see that Rupert Lowe and Nigel Pearson would ever have worked in the long term . Pearson would never have accepted the degree of interference in squad selection and management the Dutch clowns have tolerated this season , nor would Lowe have been happy dealing with a strong character like Pearson (the Strachan days are long gone now ) . As soon as we hit the inevitable bad patch RL would have used that opportunity to sack Pearson and justified it by stating he was never his choice in the first place . With hindsight Nigel Pearson was better off out of it .

 

Whatever the manifest shortcomings of this seasons squad and Wotte & Poortvleit it all goes back to Lowe in the final analysis . He couldn't get the big decisions right because fundamentally he's the wrong type of personality to be running a football club . It's as simple as that really .

 

A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. - Matthew 7:18

[Stepgar]

I find myself simultaneously in total agreement and yet somehow not entirely convinced by the above .

 

The fact that is was an monumental error letting Pearson go is accepted by almost everyone on here (the odd troll or idiot aside) but I just can't see that Rupert Lowe and Nigel Pearson would ever have worked in the long term . Pearson would never have accepted the degree of interference in squad selection and management the Dutch clowns have tolerated this season , nor would Lowe have been happy dealing with a strong character like Pearson (the Strachan days are long gone now ) . As soon as we hit the inevitable bad patch RL would have used that opportunity to sack Pearson and justified it by stating he was never his choice in the first place . With hindsight Nigel Pearson was better off out of it .

 

Whatever the manifest shortcomings of this seasons squad and Wotte & Poortvleit it all goes back to Lowe in the final analysis . He couldn't get the big decisions right because fundamentally he's the wrong type of personality to be running a football club . It's as simple as that really .

 

Bloody good post, sums things up quite well

[aintforever]

Yes all down to the manager then nothing to do with highly paid professional footballers earning over £500000 annually not performing then.

 

Of course the players take most of the blame, but when virtually the whole team seem unmotivated it is usually problems with the management.

[BallBoy]

I find myself simultaneously in total agreement and yet somehow not entirely convinced by the above .

 

The fact that is was an monumental error letting Pearson go is accepted by almost everyone on here (the odd troll or idiot aside) but I just can't see that Rupert Lowe and Nigel Pearson would ever have worked in the long term . Pearson would never have accepted the degree of interference in squad selection and management the Dutch clowns have tolerated this season , nor would Lowe have been happy dealing with a strong character like Pearson (the Strachan days are long gone now ) . As soon as we hit the inevitable bad patch RL would have used that opportunity to sack Pearson and justified it by stating he was never his choice in the first place . With hindsight Nigel Pearson was better off out of it .

 

Whatever the manifest shortcomings of this seasons squad and Wotte & Poortvleit it all goes back to Lowe in the final analysis . He couldn't get the big decisions right because fundamentally he's the wrong type of personality to be running a football club . It's as simple as that really .

 

 

Agreed again. It all comes back to Lowe eventually. Pearson may well have seen what would happen and may not have needed too hard a push. I suspect that Lowe said to him "This is how it will be" (kids, interference, no money etc) and Pearson would have given him a straight answer (You must be joking!). It then all proceeded from there. Pearson would have been right and Lowe completely wrong yet again.

[saints_is_the_south]

I take my hat off to everyone of the Saints fans today. You didnt deserve that. None of us did but you guys went all the way up there to see a gutless, spineless performance.

 

I truely believe the only thing this club has going for it, is us fans

 

+1.

 

Listening on the radio all i could hear was our fans, you guys did us proud up there yesterday. I had given it serious thought about going too but very glad i didn't now.

[Alan56]

Over the 40+ years I have followed Saints I witnessed some crap. Yesterday was without doubt the worst.

 

We now get what we deserve. We are the worst team in the league, the most badly managed and oddly enough one of the most unlucky too!!

 

For some years I have questioned just what the hell the management team do in training. Yesterday not one of the three or four corners we got cleared the first man. This has been happenning for some years. Set pieces in the main are wasted, corners never defended. All matters that can and should be addressed on the training ground.

The attitude of some out there yesterday stank. We know who they were and I trust that will be reflected next week.

 

What we see are young ****y kids lauding it around the cities night clubs, beating up fans or thieving from those less well off than them. Those fans??? that chant the song about that scum BWP thieving from skates need to take a long hard look at themselves. By doing this what does a young thick footballer think?? Oh I am a hero,when in reality he is a moronic, thick, pig ignorant, ungifted, over paid football player.

 

As I reflect on what happened yesterday and know deep down it has been coming for a while, I feel nothing but total alienation form the club I have supported since the mid 60's.

 

It will be sometime before I and many more venture back.

[Sussex Saint]

Of course the players take most of the blame, but when virtually the whole team seem unmotivated it is usually problems with the management.

 

It's a shame the players don't have as much motivation as the fans. I can't wait to my trip up the M27 for the Burnley game..!

[surrey1saint]

What ever happened to players playing for pride in the shirt? Possibly the worst display this season...disgraceful!

[TheCholulaKid]

Over the 40+ years I have followed Saints I witnessed some crap. Yesterday was without doubt the worst.

 

We now get what we deserve. We are the worst team in the league, the most badly managed and oddly enough one of the most unlucky too!!

 

For some years I have questioned just what the hell the management team do in training. Yesterday not one of the three or four corners we got cleared the first man. This has been happenning for some years. Set pieces in the main are wasted, corners never defended. All matters that can and should be addressed on the training ground.

The attitude of some out there yesterday stank. We know who they were and I trust that will be reflected next week.

 

What we see are young ****y kids lauding it around the cities night clubs, beating up fans or thieving from those less well off than them. Those fans??? that chant the song about that scum BWP thieving from skates need to take a long hard look at themselves. By doing this what does a young thick footballer think?? Oh I am a hero,when in reality he is a moronic, thick, pig ignorant, ungifted, over paid football player.

 

As I reflect on what happened yesterday and know deep down it has been coming for a while, I feel nothing but total alienation form the club I have supported since the mid 60's.

 

It will be sometime before I and many more venture back.

 

That is the best post I've read on this site in a very long time.

[saintalan]

What ever happened to players playing for pride in the shirt?

 

Unfortunately more of them prefer to stand with their back to the crowd pointing to the name on the back of the shirt rather than facing them grabbing the shirt at the heart!

 

Wherever we are next season I hope we can find a few of the latter.

 

Alan

[Barney Trubble]

I've witnessed some utter crap watching Saints throughout the years but considering our predicament that's got to be one of the most toothless I've seen for a long time.

 

Mistake after mistake, players unable to do the most basic traits of a footballer - such as communication. I'm no longer ashamed to say that I left with five minutes of the game left, I'm no plastic but the truth is that I just couldn't take anymore, it was hurtful and a total waste of time and money.