Has the UK gone mad?

Geert Wilders refused entry to the UK

The guy's a complete idiot (IMHO) but he isn't so radical he should be refused entry to the UK? Talking about PC gone mad....

He should have been let in so we could all learn what a complete tosspot he is.

In the meantime, Abu Hamza is most welcome

In the meantime, Abu Hamza is most welcome

He's in prison, isn't he?

Snoop Dogg was also refused entry - this country!

That bloke seems your typical outspoken bellend. He seesm to like his own publicity. I see the next headline down on the link says he arrived at Heathrow and is being turned back. Good.

That bloke seems your typical outspoken bellend. He seesm to like his own publicity. I see the next headline down on the link says he arrived at Heathrow and is being turned back. Good.

I suggest you read the edditorial on the same website.

http://www.nrc.nl/international/Opinion/article2149476.ece/Wilders_right_to_speak

I suggest you read the edditorial on the same website.

 

http://www.nrc.nl/international/Opinion/article2149476.ece/Wilders_right_to_speak

Dutch paper in backing Dutch man shocker.

I suggest you read the edditorial on the same website.

 

http://www.nrc.nl/international/Opinion/article2149476.ece/Wilders_right_to_speak

What do you wish me to glean from this?

i wonder how he sees maths being taught in the year 2018..?

I really hate all this freedom of speech drivel. It is okay to a point, but you always get some total numpty that wants to use it purely to get attention for himself. It should be "Freedom of Speech, unless you are a dinlo, in which case common sense will kick in and you can fu(k off."

I really hate all this freedom of speech drivel. It is okay to a point, but you always get some total numpty that wants to use it purely to get attention for himself. It should be "Freedom of Speech, unless you are a dinlo, in which case common sense will kick in and you can fu(k off."

As is is The Lounge I am going to reply with a sensible point: Who will decide who is a dinlo? Will there be a committee set up to decide which people are allowed freedom of speech? Who will appoint this committee? Will it be paid for using PFI?

As is is The Lounge I am going to reply with a sensible point: Who will decide who is a dinlo? Will there be a committee set up to decide which people are allowed freedom of speech? Who will appoint this committee? Will it be paid for using PFI?

No. I don't think we need to go that far. What happened in this instance was proof of that. We have a system, a prat tried to get around it and prat was told to fu(k off. That should now be the end of it.

Obviously it won't be. If a good valid point is made that doesn't fit in with new wave modern PC values, then despite it being the popular choice of the masses, it has to be seen to be taken apart and destroyed, further weakening our way of running our country.

Dutch paper in backing Dutch man shocker.

Is this better then?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/leading_article/article5712187.ece

And besides, the Dutch paper doesn't defend him, it defends free speech.

Geert Wilders refused entry to the UK

 

The guy's a complete idiot (IMHO) but he isn't so radical he should be refused entry to the UK? Talking about PC gone mad....

This is a sensible decision by the govt. in my opinion. With all the recent disruption about foriegn workers taking 'British' jobs (hmmm) the last thing this country needs is this knob cheese coming into the UK, and giving the right wing lunatics even more of an excuse to blame EVERYTHING on 'foreigners'.

I'm a supporter of freedom of speech even though there's lots of speech I don't like.

Banning free expression of thought could be the first step on a dangerous road IMO.

This is a sensible decision by the govt. in my opinion. With all the recent disruption about foriegn workers taking 'British' jobs (hmmm) the last thing this country needs is this knob cheese coming into the UK, and giving the right wing lunatics even more of an excuse to blame EVERYTHING on 'foreigners'.

I did like the way you slipped that in to describe him.

I'm a supporter of freedom of speech even though there's lots of speech I don't like.

 

Banning free expression of thought could be the first step on a dangerous road IMO.

So would you allow someone like Hitler access to screen a film about the evilness of Judaism?

I'm a supporter of freedom of speech even though there's lots of speech I don't like.

 

Banning free expression of thought could be the first step on a dangerous road IMO.

Yadda yadda yadda.

Let common sense prevail. He can just do one.

We don't need extreme Political Correctness to display our basic belief in Freedom of Speech. What happened to plain old fashioned respect? He has no respect for a group of people so we should exercise our right to not entertain him.

This is a sensible decision by the govt. in my opinion. With all the recent disruption about foriegn workers taking 'British' jobs (hmmm) the last thing this country needs is this knob cheese coming into the UK, and giving the right wing lunatics even more of an excuse to blame EVERYTHING on 'foreigners'.

Yes, he is complete knob and yes his views are likely to cause grief among muslims and the UK could probably do without it but no government should intervene in such a manner. Its sets a precedent and gets you on a very slippery slope. If British politicians dissagree then debate the guy or rebuff his standpoints in other manners then sillencing him. Besides, this way he's getting more press coverage then he would have gotten otherwise.

Yes, he is complete knob and yes his views are likely to cause grief among muslims and the UK could probably do without it but no government should intervene in such a manner. Its sets a precedent and gets you on a very slippery slope. If British politicians dissagree then debate the guy or rebuff his standpoints in other manners then sillencing him. Besides, this way he's getting more press coverage then he would have gotten otherwise.

I was about to post along these lines but you've said it so much better than I could.

The denial of freedom of expression is one step along the road to fascism IMO.

To be fair I seem to remember a Nation of Islam guy being denied entry a few years back, so at least they are being even handed!

Yadda yadda yadda.

 

Let common sense prevail. He can just do one.

 

We don't need extreme Political Correctness to display our basic belief in Freedom of Speech. What happened to plain old fashioned respect? He has no respect for a group of people so we should exercise our right to not entertain him.

Not sure I understand, isn't it "political correctness" that's kicked him out? It's liberalism that would allow him to speak. For what it's worth both terms are meaningless labels IMO.

Yes, he is complete knob and yes his views are likely to cause grief among muslims and the UK could probably do without it but no government should intervene in such a manner. Its sets a precedent and gets you on a very slippery slope. If British politicians dissagree then debate the guy or rebuff his standpoints in other manners then sillencing him. Besides, this way he's getting more press coverage then he would have gotten otherwise.

I agree. You don't win an argument by sticking your fingers in your ears and not listening.

The worrying thing is that the government's action has given him the oxygen of publicity and will encourage those that believe that we pander to Islamists at the expense of other points of view to get on their bandwagons.

He's in prison, isn't he?

In which country?

So would you allow someone like Hitler access to screen a film about the evilness of Judaism?

Freedom of speech also equals freedom to listen, so if you don't like what people are saying, avoid them

So would you allow someone like Hitler access to screen a film about the evilness of Judaism?

Yes

Yes, he is complete knob and yes his views are likely to cause grief among muslims and the UK could probably do without it but no government should intervene in such a manner. Its sets a precedent and gets you on a very slippery slope. If British politicians dissagree then debate the guy or rebuff his standpoints in other manners then sillencing him. Besides, this way he's getting more press coverage then he would have gotten otherwise.

Correct.

I was about to post along these lines but you've said it so much better than I could.

 

The denial of freedom of expression is one step along the road to fascism IMO.

Correct.

Not sure I understand, isn't it "political correctness" that's kicked him out? It's liberalism that would allow him to speak. For what it's worth both terms are meaningless labels IMO.

 

 

 

I agree. You don't win an argument by sticking your fingers in your ears and not listening.

Correct.

The worrying thing is that the government's action has given him the oxygen of publicity and will encourage those that believe that we pander to Islamists at the expense of other points of view to get on their bandwagons.

Correct.

Yadda yadda yadda.

 

Let common sense prevail. He can just do one.

 

We don't need extreme Political Correctness to display our basic belief in Freedom of Speech. What happened to plain old fashioned respect? He has no respect for a group of people so we should exercise our right to not entertain him.

Dinlo.

Stupid thing to do.

Ban some fascist tw*t coming into the country and spouting his nonsense = big fuss and tons of publicity.

Ignore him being a fascist tw*t and let him in = he spouts some sh*t, no-one cares, he goes away again.

Must admit, I thought it was a faux pas. The strength of freedom of speech is that occasionally you're going to offend people. But that's the power of real democracy.

I'm a supporter of freedom of speech even though there's lots of speech I don't like.

 

Banning free expression of thought could be the first step on a dangerous road IMO.

I am afraid that's what you get with a totalitarian control freak at the helm.

The worrying thing is that the government's action has given him the oxygen of publicity and will encourage those that believe that we pander to Islamists at the expense of other points of view to get on their bandwagons.

On a serious note, you are absolutely spot on. Every news channel ran with this as a main story, Question Time devoted 20 minutes to it and apparently there have been hundreds of thousands of viewings of the film on youtube......you can't buy publicity like this.

So for all the "thought control police" politicians, this has spectacularly back fired.

So, freedom of speech doesn't include slagging off Islam then?

Dinlo.

Although this was aimed at myself, I applaud your use of the word. I feel it isn't said enough these days.

Although this was aimed at myself, I applaud your use of the word. I feel it isn't said enough these days.

Dinlo

Although this was aimed at myself, I applaud your use of the word. I feel it isn't said enough these days.

You'll be glad to know that the word dinlo is alive and well in Bedfordshire as it appears to be my neighbour's kids favourite insult.

You'll be glad to know that the word dinlo is alive and well in Bedfordshire as it appears to be my neighbour's kids favourite insult.

I have a couple of scouse sounding lads who are using the expression freely on their friends too.

So let me get this straight. The government lets all sorts of rabid hate-filled fascist gay-stoning, women-suppressing, intolerant evil Mohammedans in to the country but not the democratically elected representative of a fellow EU country who was invited here - where he was only two weeks ago - by two members of the House of Lords to host a private screening of a film which is widely available on the internet, and which I have now seen.

We mustn't offend the Mohammedans must we? Never mind that some of their number consistently insult non-adherents to their 'religion of peace'. Never mind that Britain has always been a place of free speech.

This country has gone crazy. What's the bet that Jacqui Smith - the most useless and corrupt waster ever to disgrace the home office - banned him just to take the heat of her expense claim. Grubby little pig with her fascist nose in the trough. Oink Oink Oink I had better get as much in my snout as I can before the game is up and I am kicked out of office.

This country is a f\/cking disgrace.

I have a couple of scouse sounding lads who are using the expression freely on their friends too.

It's prompted me to use the word more often too. Especially at work, where it attracts more confusion than offence at the moment, and offers less risk of disciplinary action than random use of

It's prompted me to use the word more often too. Especially at work, where it attracts more confusion than offence at the moment, and offers less risk of disciplinary action than random use of

 

We need to get it out there again. I wish I had used it as part of my username now.

We need to get it out there again. I wish I had used it as part of my username now.

JohnnyDinloPants?

Greater use of the word could be just what the economy needs as a kick start. We've tried everything else - bailing out the banks, banning dodgy foreign politicians. Maybe all it needs is the re-introduction of old fashioned insults.

JohnnyDinloPants?

 

Greater use of the word could be just what the economy needs as a kick start. We've tried everything else - bailing out the banks, banning dodgy foreign politicians. Maybe all it needs is the re-introduction of old fashioned insults.

Good point. If those bankers were called "dinlo's" now and then we might be in better shape now. Even a carefully placed "spazz" would have helped.

Good point. If those bankers were called "dinlo's" now and then we might be in better shape now. Even a carefully placed "spazz" would have helped.

Ha Ha Ha!! Never did me any harm being called a 'spazz'.

:D:D

This government is a f\/cking disgrace.

There, HTH

There, HTH

what does 'HTH' mean?

what does 'HTH' mean?

Hope that helps.

HTH :-)

one million illegal immrigants suggests the uk has gone mad yes.

one million illegal immrigants suggests the uk has gone mad yes.

Are you absolutely sure this is the case? For a start, if people are here illegally how can they possibly be counted?

Are you absolutely sure this is the case? For a start, if people are here illegally how can they possibly be counted?

Obviously it's impossible to konw for sure but ...

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-126939607.html

He must have been praying for Jack Straw to kick him out. He would never have been given the publicity otherwise.

Well done Jack. Hopefully we'll also stop neo-conservative George W Bush from coming in, no, I didn't think so.