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Nathan Jones to Cardiff? That looks like two inevitable Saints defeats in the league next year already. And why are his interviews now sounding relatively normal? Was he permanently on drugs when he was with us? I've put Carrick top of my list before, but have no idea whether he's a serious proposition. Obviously won't be if Boro go up.

Trust me, there were very few people applauding. Most had already left. Shambles. Nothing there at all. At least the sun was shining. Dump Selles. Dump Ankersen (I’m looking at you Dragan, it’s your money). Start again.

I don’t mind the young upcoming manager approach but you have to get it right. As soon as Jones opened his mouth at those weird press conferences it was apparent that he wasn’t equipped to manage anything at an elite level. If Wilcox is in charge of recruitment, give it a go. Rasmus? Not so much. But I definitely don’t want Gerrard or Lampard. Carrick if Boro don’t go up would seem to be a better ‘famous ex-player’ option.

Which one of the four do you think he should have saved? I mean I'm not his biggest fan but he was hung out to dry by the players in front of him, especially when Johnson and Gibbs-White started cheating by actually running with the ball at pace.

Hanging onto Lavia seems a bit ambitious. Even if he stays though I think a squad with no CBs is probably too high risk. But the squad of players doesn't really matter if we don't get the right manager with the right attitude, the right plan and a new playing style in. Priority number one.

At least we got to see some goals and some attacking intent. The one thing above the many others that has been missing this season has been entertainment. That's down to the mind-numbing risk-averse style of football. If that changes, then I'll actually look forward to some Championship away days. Nottingham was a bit of a dump, and a very wet one at that. Not much to say apart from that. We're fucked.

I'lll organise the flotilla on the Trent so we can evacuate the players after our glorious (checks historical notes) defeat.

Normally, the most Saintsy thing to do would be to beat Forest and Fulham to spark mass hysteria, only to collapse disappointingly against Brighton and Liverpool. This season the most Saintsy thing to do would be to lose all four.

4 or 5 proven players between the ages of 24 and 30 please. No idea who.

Oh my God, I’ve just looked at the table. We could be in trouble. Message to our Serbian overlord: Rip it up and start againRip it up and start againI hope to God you're not as dumb as you make outI hope to GodI hope to GodAnd I hope to God I'm not as numb as you make outI hope to GodI hope to God https://youtu.be/uIhJJ5ZVgx8

On the other hand if we beat Forest, Dyche picks himself for Everton, Leeds decide to play Rugby League instead, Leicester recall Lineker, Jupiter aligns with Saturn, and King Cnut turns back the waves, we could just survive.

Worst team/manager/owners in 50 years of supporting Saints. Branfoot years were grim, but at least Matt Le Vaccine came on occasionally to do something ridiculous and keep us up. Redknapp relegation season was awful, but we occasionally showed a bit of fight and took it to the last day. Ankersen/Jones/Selles plus a bunch of players with no balls has ripper the heart out of our club. Half very angry, half don’t currently give a fuck. Can’t wait for the season to end. We’ll be back.

I can’t quite believe I’m saying this, but he might actually be worse. The way he set us up tonight and against Palace? I mean what the actual fuck? Not being good enough is hard enough to take. No centre forward, no fight, no passion, no attacking intent is just dereliction of duty. The other thing pissing me off tonight? Football journalists. Adam Blackmore and Alfie House and all of them big it up on social media with words like clueless and abysmal but then throw soft shoe bullshit questions at the manager and anyone else responsible. Ask them what everyone is thinking FFS. Anyone want my Forest ticket? Not sure I can bear it. Roll on the reset and Rotherham away in the Championship on a freezing Friday in February. ‘Ave it.

Yes that Brighton game should have been a massive wake up call for the people in charge. Lallana running the show and none of our players getting within three feet of Caicedo all afternoon. No matter. We had Nathan Jones.

You’re talking bullshit and you probably know it. What he meant was if Brighton had bothered to turn up and won, we’d have gone above Forest if we beat Bournemouth tomorrow. So it does matter. I mean we’re almost certainly going down anyway, but it’s still bullshit.

We’re so fucked.

Alcaraz replaced by Lyanco. If he’s not injured, Selles should be sacked on the spot

Yup. Sulemana too slow for that role...

I think we're looking at an Arma hat-trick here, aren't we? Just trying to be realistic for once.

Careful what you wish for? I just wished for a decent fucking manager. And don’t tell me there aren’t any out there. A few weeks before we appointed a bloke I’d never heard of called Jones, Brighton appointed a bloke I’d never heard of called De Zerbi. Why is their recruitment so much better than ours? Shambles from Sports Republic. Dragan must be a very patient man, or have an awful lot of money to waste.

Coaching. I think they’d both be good at it. You may disagree.

Not much to add. There wasn’t even much booing at the end. The style of football we play has sucked the passion out of the club. There was just so little to get excited about. Aribo has to score at the Northam in the first half, but of course he didn’t. And once Baz palmed it into the path of Eze everyone in St Marys knew it was game over. Come on Saints: give us something, anything, for the rest of the season - and we’ll get behind the team. We want to enjoy it, but by god the last three seasons have been grim. I’d take Vieira backed up by Walcott or Lallana in the summer. Has any team ever made two such disastrous managerial appointments in one season? Oh yes, Chelsea… just about the only thing in football that made me smile today.

The front four against West Ham was a fucking atrocious decision. No guts, no glory. But replacing Danny Ings, Shane Long and Armando Broja with Adam Armstrong, Sekou Mara and Tall Paul Too Late is IMO the reason we're sunk. I think Sekou will come good, and Tall might rip it up in the Championship. Arma already has. But for this season, nah.

Yeah, me too. Well almost. Che if he's fit, and we know Edozie's been consigned to the U12s so I'd settle for Theo or Moussa, and Baz in goal. But as someone said earlier in the thread, lightning doesn't strike twice. 1-4 but we still believe in the process post-match.

Meanwhile Nathan Redmond's had another stormer for Besiktas - 1 goal and three assists after they went down to ten men. But we've still got Adam Armstrong on the bench.