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we were played off the park. It should have been at least 2-0 at half time and it could have been 5 or 6 on another day. We offered very little threat indeed. Your marks out of ten are far far too generous IMO. Why you mark Rasiak lower than the rest is beyond me. He didn't win headers but if thatss the case why are we hoofing it up to him all day long. Why doesn't Lambert go for the first ball? Rasiak worked hard IMO but the service was appauling.

because Perry was so damn poor Pardew had no choice but to take him off. If he had more subs available I'd like to think that he'd of taken Thomas off as well. Those two were rubbish and IMO its not that they had an off day it is just that they were found out. Slow and poor in the air. What a terrible combination of attributes we have for cenyre halves. Saints fans need to wise up to the fact that Perry is not a good player. Only Powell is worse in posession than Perry. At least he won headers.

Thomson has the done square route of **** all so far, so to say he had his best game for Saints is saying absolutely nothing. In my opinion he did nothing substantial on Saturday either. He beat no one, he didn't get to the byeline when a great opportunity offered itself. He was zero threat. Of course tackling and heading go without saying - he doesn't do either. He is lightweight. He need to get some elbows. As I understand it he failed to impress at Bournemouth either. It worries me greatly that he is first change. Is he even all that quick? Thin yes, quick I'm not so sure. He is going to need a lot of time to develop and perhaps that should be out on loan. Mellis showed energy. Shame we hoofed it over his head for the entire half.

I'd take Pele over any of our defenders and any of our defensive midfielders. Skacel is better than Holmes - our only left midfielder. Simple. Centre backs are what we need though. Two of them immediately. A big bloke to win headers and a fast big bloke to win headers and to mark the fast strikers.

just back after a long road trip and I have just about had the chance to calm down. After 25 years of watching Saints you'd think I'd have learned by now what to expect, but a performance like that is totally unacceptable IMO and if Pardew does not learn from that he never will. We were embarressing. Make no mistake. Huddersfield were decent, but we were pitiful, Long ball ****e all game. The decision by Pardew to take Schneiderlin off and leave Wotton on beggars belief. Wotton is woeful. We need two centre backs quick sharp. I have been saying it for a very long time now that Perry and Thomas are **** and this game showed all of their weaknesses. Crap in the air, slow, poor talking, poor decision making and some laughable marking. Get two decent centre backs and Gillett instead of Wotton and we might start to do something. Davis 8 - two great saves in the first half and some very good sweeper work Murty 6 - solid enough but never got past the half way line Thomas 3 - garbage. Got steadily worse as the game went on. Perry 2 - slow, terrible in the air and clueless Harding 4 - given the run around in the second half James 2 - did nothign, when he got the opportunity to get down the line he crossed far too early. Rightly subbed Wotton 1 - non existant. So slow he never ever got near the opposition. Woeful player and performance. Schneiderlin 6 - no idea why he was subbed. He wasn't playing great but he looked like one of our better players. Very poor decision by Pardew. Lallana 3 - non existant Lambert 8 - tried hard but far far too many long balls. We have become a hoof ball side Rasiak 6 - worked very hard but won zero in the air. Terrible service to him though. Jacob 3 - looks fast but hardly touched the ball in the whole second half Lancashire 3 - amlost fell over every single time the opponent got the ball. Looks a poor player. Thomson 2 - lightweight. Is he ever all that quick? One great opportunity to get to the byeline and what does he do, yes you guessed it, he crossed it early.

It will just be a board member that knows the football business. nicola has probably spent every waking hour on the phone and on the road trying to tie up transfer deals and he probably wants to give that responsibility to someone else so he can look after everything else.

I saw Danny Livesey mentioned on an Echo thread. I suggested him last summer. Anyone know if he is fit?

We give them 1200 first and they come back to us if they want more. By doing it that way the club has a better understanding of the away ticket sales rather than being told a final figure a day before the game. Knowing sales will help in terms of planning of police, food , staff etc. I suppose they coud jsut ask BCFC for an update but maybe they (or other away teams) have been useless in supplying the information in the past.

I'd keep Patterson in the starting 11.

the Mirror suggested it was £100,000.

really? We werre shot but they only just avoided relegation themselves from the league below.

so 40-50 (x£2 each) on a coach = £80 to £100, they appear to have turned a £20 loss into a £60 - £80 profit. This requires an explanation in my book.

I just wonder if Pardew is concerned about Gillets lack of height. Overall we are a small side so that extra bit of height can make a big difference at set peices etc. Other than that I have not idea why Wotton gets the place. He is the midfield version of Darren Powell IMO.

get both them and JPS in then and offload Thomas and Perry because JPS is better than either of them.

sounds to me as though its you that has the blinkered view of JPS, based primarly on that poor Charlton game. You say it yourself that you have only seen him a few times. Those that saw every game will be far more forgiving of that poor display. I gave him 9 out of 10 in most games, so that Charlton display was out of character IMO. I have to say I can't agree with you on the following: "lack of ability" - he would be by far and away the most confortable on the ball of any of our centre backs if he came here now. Compare him to say Perry for example who dithers and makes some of the worst passing decisions I have ever seen of a centre back. "Poor in the air" - what a load of tosh. He is very good in the air. His strongest attribute in fact and he won headers all day long in most games last season. After he signed we became much harder to score against at set peices thats for sure. "very weak" - is he ****. He's a strong centre back that puts himself about. I don't recall any striker bullying him last season.

the echo has done its best and the reserve team manager mus have seen him play so job done. Whether Pardew prefers a different path is a another thing. I wonder how big Saeijs' wages are?

2-2 classic. See you all there.

funny how Gillingham leaked that information into the press. Can't help but add a few pennies to the price tag.

great idea. Let the club know.

Unsurprisingly I value my own opinion much higher than yours. I saw Le Tiss' first few seasons and even the great one failed to impress at times and was rightly dropped. Chris Nicholl was a canny fella though and gave him plenty of time to develop into the best player you will ever see in a Saints shirt ever. I'm not saying Lallana will match him, but you'll find there are not too many `class' players at this level so you'd better enjoy him while you can, even if thatmeans suffering his poor games. I'm getting fed up of saying it, but I do so again. Lallana is going to be a quality player. Get off his back and get behind him. With a bit of luck we'll get promoted and not lose him at the end of the season.

quality use of facts. Was there a pen against Charlton though? JPS was terriffic last season. He had a couple of very very poor games, but in the others he was the stand out player. I gave him 9/10 for a lot of them. Tough, committed and decent in posession. Great in the air and not the slowest I've seen on the deck. Even without the `I want to play for Saints' style quotes, I'd get him in, but the fact he really wants to play for us even in the lower leagues (as long as a high wage is not his real reason for wanting to join) is fantastic.

play him anywhere and he will do a job. He has a first touch, sticks his foot in, works hard, and challenges well for anything in the air. He obviously lacks size and pace but I don't see why he couldn't play across the midfield and in attack. Far too much negativity on here considering the talent he posesses. If he said he was willing to sign a new five year deal I'd get him signed up right now without question.

great tie.

I simply do not understand anyone that suggests he does not put enough effort in. He may not be uneffective in some games but there is not a single game where he does not give his all.

IMO he is better than ALL the centre backs we have at the club so if there is a chance of him coming here lets take it. Perry is a liability and Thomas is extremleyaverage. Lancashire will improve with games but lets loan him out to get those games.