CB Fry

You know those pundits and loads of other pundits spend a lot of time praising James Ward-Prowse while you twat on with your "son in law" routine every bloody week? They were right and you're wrong. You know plenty of pundits could see how utterly shit Nathan Jones was while you were salivating about how agressive and hard to beat he was making us? They were right and you're wrong. What do those pundits know, eh? Duckhunter knows best everyone. Clueless cunt.

Fucking give it a rest. We scored a freak goal in the first minute, it wasn't some tactical masterclass. If that goal had gone during Ralph's reign you'd be falling over yourself to call it a fluke.

Absolutely worthless point but at least it was an enjoyable match and we bloody scored some goals.

Look him in the eye, tell him he's Bobby Moore and get him back on

In fairness he's only said that about four players and all of them are too good for the second tier. It takes more than four good players to stay up, and that's why we're bottom.

I think you are probably over estimating the recruiting of 8-12 year old children in the process. Really the coaching structure, facilities, culture, pathway, support network etc etc are infinitely more important and that is the accountability of someone other than Les Reed for the last five years, which is a long time in football. I know it's awfully fun and nostalgic to keep blaming him for everything but seriously, get over it.

Well, whatever happens to us*, we definitely will not be in the same League as Pompey next season.

We can win at The Emirates sure but we're still going down as we'd likely still be stone bottom of the league at the end of the weekend anyway.

Yes agree with that. Won't be Potter but yes if it was someone with pedigree who is not really coming in to keep us up but to take us up next year then yeah fine. I don't really see that any manager with that kind of stature would come in to deliver a nailed on relegation though. Absolutely nothing in it for them.

She hasn't met me yet.

I'd take Alex Scott off of Football Focus.

I think you are the one chatting shit here. I think it is perfectly easy to accept that Ankersen was clearly responsible for the success at Brentford while at the same time seeing he is currently a disaster for us. It's like saying Lawrie Mac must have not had anything to do with Saints success in the 70s and 80s because he was shit at Sunderland afterwards. Or Koeman was shit for us after all because he was shit for Everton. So stop asking for "video evidence" like some chump and just accept that people can be successful in one place and not another. It happens in football all the fucking time. All the time. Jesus wept.

Can somebody quickly re-do one of those match predictors again, this time assuming we are going to win four of our final eight games and all the other clubs conveniently lose all theirs? Cheers

I assume Göztepe are starting all their fixtures without naming a recognised striker in their first teams? Must be some kind of multi club Sports Republic thing?

Villa showing just how atrocious a manager Steven Gerrard is.

Sorry the forum experts have already stated that this game is absolutely not a must win. So as this is not a must win then a plucky draw or even a noble defeat is all absolutely fine because we'd still be on course for Premier League safety anyway 👍👍👍👍👍

...yep he won one of those two games. I think probably something wasn't quite right, and he has never even succeeded in the second tier subsequently. He wasn’t an elite level manager. But great in the bottom 2 divisions no question. Clear he wasn't going to be a long term solution for us. But his record in his short time with us was fine and miles above Nathan Jones, as you say. He can hardly be blamed for the relegation that season.

So now Leeds are getting 4 points in 8 games instead. Genius.

I think your issue is not your optimism with Saints but ridiculous pessimistic view of other clubs. Why are Bournemouth only getting 4 points from their last 8 games? If we were in Bournemouth's position today there's no way you'd be predicting that, more likely you'd be doing predictors that put us in 11th on the last day. I think Forest probably will drop but they'll get more than just 5 more points from 8 games. Again, if that was Saints in that position you would run the numbers and oh-would-you-believe-it we're safe. Other clubs are not going to lose their way to our safety.

"Every decision we are taking us focused on staying in this division" was the mantra. That seem to involve spending more than fifty million quid in January on a players that at best occasionally start games and at worst don't even make the squad, but mainly just sit on the bench down the pecking order to players that were signed by Mark Hughes.

Very, very clearly. Clue: it does not mean just the game we happen to play in May when we're 20th and not winning that specific game means we are mathmatically down. It has never meant just that and never will just mean that. It's fine you didn't realise, I'm here to help x x x If we'd won some of those must win games earlier in the season then maybe we wouldn't be 20th now and clearly relegated. That's kinda how it works.

You've answered it - you clearly don't understand what it means.

If your definition of a "must-win" is exclusively a handful of games in May where it becomes mathmatically impossible to stay up then I would suggest that you are the person who "doesn't understand what it means". We won't be relegated because we lost some singular game in May that makes it a mathmatical fact. We will be relegated because of our shit run in January and February, and our losses to the likes of West Ham last week. Honestly if you think we can not win vs Palace and still stay up then God help you.

Lavia will leave. Forget buy back clauses and all that shite. No over thinking required. He's breaking into his national side in a season with Euro 24 at the end of it. He will not be playing in the Championship. Either City buy him back and loan him to Fulham/Palace/whoever or someone big (Arse/Spurs) comes in a splams £40m on him and City let him go. There is a scenario that City sign him for their own squad but feels unlikely. Either way the only unknown is where he will go, not if he will go.

The Athletic write up of it makes it a bit more complicated than that. I don't think many managers want to risk being associated with two relegations in the same season.