CB Fry

Well, whatever happens to us*, we definitely will not be in the same League as Pompey next season.

We can win at The Emirates sure but we're still going down as we'd likely still be stone bottom of the league at the end of the weekend anyway.

Yes agree with that. Won't be Potter but yes if it was someone with pedigree who is not really coming in to keep us up but to take us up next year then yeah fine. I don't really see that any manager with that kind of stature would come in to deliver a nailed on relegation though. Absolutely nothing in it for them.

She hasn't met me yet.

I'd take Alex Scott off of Football Focus.

I think you are the one chatting shit here. I think it is perfectly easy to accept that Ankersen was clearly responsible for the success at Brentford while at the same time seeing he is currently a disaster for us. It's like saying Lawrie Mac must have not had anything to do with Saints success in the 70s and 80s because he was shit at Sunderland afterwards. Or Koeman was shit for us after all because he was shit for Everton. So stop asking for "video evidence" like some chump and just accept that people can be successful in one place and not another. It happens in football all the fucking time. All the time. Jesus wept.

Can somebody quickly re-do one of those match predictors again, this time assuming we are going to win four of our final eight games and all the other clubs conveniently lose all theirs? Cheers

I assume Göztepe are starting all their fixtures without naming a recognised striker in their first teams? Must be some kind of multi club Sports Republic thing?

Villa showing just how atrocious a manager Steven Gerrard is.

Sorry the forum experts have already stated that this game is absolutely not a must win. So as this is not a must win then a plucky draw or even a noble defeat is all absolutely fine because we'd still be on course for Premier League safety anyway 👍👍👍👍👍

...yep he won one of those two games. I think probably something wasn't quite right, and he has never even succeeded in the second tier subsequently. He wasn’t an elite level manager. But great in the bottom 2 divisions no question. Clear he wasn't going to be a long term solution for us. But his record in his short time with us was fine and miles above Nathan Jones, as you say. He can hardly be blamed for the relegation that season.

So now Leeds are getting 4 points in 8 games instead. Genius.

I think your issue is not your optimism with Saints but ridiculous pessimistic view of other clubs. Why are Bournemouth only getting 4 points from their last 8 games? If we were in Bournemouth's position today there's no way you'd be predicting that, more likely you'd be doing predictors that put us in 11th on the last day. I think Forest probably will drop but they'll get more than just 5 more points from 8 games. Again, if that was Saints in that position you would run the numbers and oh-would-you-believe-it we're safe. Other clubs are not going to lose their way to our safety.

"Every decision we are taking us focused on staying in this division" was the mantra. That seem to involve spending more than fifty million quid in January on a players that at best occasionally start games and at worst don't even make the squad, but mainly just sit on the bench down the pecking order to players that were signed by Mark Hughes.

Very, very clearly. Clue: it does not mean just the game we happen to play in May when we're 20th and not winning that specific game means we are mathmatically down. It has never meant just that and never will just mean that. It's fine you didn't realise, I'm here to help x x x If we'd won some of those must win games earlier in the season then maybe we wouldn't be 20th now and clearly relegated. That's kinda how it works.

You've answered it - you clearly don't understand what it means.

If your definition of a "must-win" is exclusively a handful of games in May where it becomes mathmatically impossible to stay up then I would suggest that you are the person who "doesn't understand what it means". We won't be relegated because we lost some singular game in May that makes it a mathmatical fact. We will be relegated because of our shit run in January and February, and our losses to the likes of West Ham last week. Honestly if you think we can not win vs Palace and still stay up then God help you.

Lavia will leave. Forget buy back clauses and all that shite. No over thinking required. He's breaking into his national side in a season with Euro 24 at the end of it. He will not be playing in the Championship. Either City buy him back and loan him to Fulham/Palace/whoever or someone big (Arse/Spurs) comes in a splams £40m on him and City let him go. There is a scenario that City sign him for their own squad but feels unlikely. Either way the only unknown is where he will go, not if he will go.

The Athletic write up of it makes it a bit more complicated than that. I don't think many managers want to risk being associated with two relegations in the same season.

I missed the early days of Jones tenure when you were absolutely salivating about how wonderful and aggressive the team were now and what an improvement he had made. Absolutely revelling in how right you were being proved. Oh the hubris of the pub expert. Unfortunately both he and you fucking shat the bed. Hilarious you are now backing nothing more than a Spanish son-in-law merchant for no other reason than the fact that he isn't Ralph Hasenhuttl. That's it, that's the only reason you are backing him. Son in law, moisturising foreign ponce but Duckhunter seal of approval through who he happens to not be. One day you might be able to get over it x x x

I missed the early days of Jones tenure when you were absolutely salivating about how wonderful and aggressive the team were now and what an improvement he had made. Absolutely revelling in how right you were being proved. Oh the hubris of the pub expert. Unfortunately both he and you fucking shat the bed. One day you might be able to get over it x x x

I refuse to believe someone who wears nice suit jackets and has excellent hair could possibly be a downgrade.

Maybe he will if he has fallen out that badly with his Burnley team mates, on last night of all nights.

The dictionary definition of "Saints-tinted spectacles". Jesus wept.

All the great performances were because of Erwin Koeman and all the terrible ones were down to Ronald.