CB Fry

I only have one question - where does it say he's only getting a short term contract? I've not actually seen that anywhere but it is being discussed here like it is gospel.

We'll agree to disagree. Saying we're five points behind is a really lazy way of looking at it. Honestly that is loads and loads of points in the position we are in. We are miles off where we need to be, which for a rule of thumb is one-point-per-game. Even if we win the next three on the spin (dreamland) we still won't even have got to that metric. We will win some games, but I don't see that we are winning 5 of the next 16 (plus 6 draws, bare minimum to get to 36). We can only afford 5 more defeats in a season where we have already lost 15. To actually get to a point a game (38) that's at least 2 more draws or a win. So 4 more defeats this season, or just 3 more between now and the end? Really? Burnley were 3 points off after 38 games but they still went down. Three teams drop every season, we will be one of them.

I'm struggling to think who he sold a "vision" or a "project" to - Dani Osvaldo maybe. Everyone else would have come for perfectly standard reasons - money and/or opportunity.

OK, your working premise is ridiculous. We should right now assume that SR will invest to get us back up because they have said that repeatedly.

No but the situation now is different. Come the summer, we are a different animal and we will be in a position to attract different managers. Say Michael Carrick - he is not going to walk out on Middlesbrough today, but if he loses the play off final and we offer him a genuine step up, he might. And so on. Just a simple example but applies to managers all over the continent who would look at the job to take us up as a very attractive one. We're not just going to have Ian Holloway to pick from FFS.

Honestly this is a slightly mad reading of the situation, unless SR suddenly just bail out, which we have no reason to think they will. We don't suddenly become Barnsley just because we get relegated.

Does it though? Saints in the Championship in the summer with SR resources is a really good job in English football. We will be a very attractive proposition.

I can already see myself getting annoyed by people on this forum, after we lose a couple of games, saying "we were told this guy was the saviour who was going to keep us up" Jessie Marsch is absolutley nailed on to be relegated with us, we have far too much to do now. He can come in and win his first two games in a row and even if he does that we will probably still be in the bottom 3. We are almost certain to be relegated, but if Marsch can at least get us organised and give the young players some guidance/focus/motivation, then great.

Jessie Marsch did the league/cup double two seasons in a row in Austria which is a similar level of "no easy feat".

They definitely have said no. There you go, done.

Please can you stop going on about Potter. He can be sacked at eight o'clock tonight and he is still not going to immediately take a job at Saints. This is real life, not a computer game.

Look, you just need to get on with changing your username to Messie Jarsch or something.

Feels a bit weird but Gordon Strachan actually relegated Coventry so it might work. If he has agreed to stay to get us back up then great. If SaintsWeb official ray-of-sunshine @DT was a Leeds fan right now he would utterly convinced that a Marsch led Saints will survive at the expense of Leeds. Utterly convinced of it. So lets see if the football gods make that happen. Would be funny.

I am not completely convinced by Marsch but blimey the amount of people who are suggesting a manager who has failed at Reading in the Prem and the Championship, then failed at Sheffield United and Charlton in League One as an appropriate replacement compared to someone who has actually kept a struggling team in the Prem, plus a load of experience in the Bundesliga and at the top of other Leagues. I've said it before, anyone on here suggesting Adkins must really dislike the man to put him in a position where his perfect, untouchable achievements with us are pissed all over by making sure he has our relegation on his CV. And make him a bloody football trivia question for the rest of his life. Why are so many of you so desperate to do that to him. Absolutely insane on all levels, fucking insane.

Honestly all of those suggestions are pointless/terrible.

Say what you like about Sports Republic but they don't piss about when they want to appoint a new manager. At least we had about two months of lovely speculation before Puel and Pellegrino came in. Looks like about 24 hours and done both times already.

People really need to spend less time on Twitter.

It's weird we don't have forum experts going on and on about how brilliant Jankewitz is these days, because it was non bloody stop on here at one point. Come on lads, surely he's still definitely brilliant and still definitely a disgrace that Ralph wasn't picking him?

The job he did at Villa was terrible. One win in his last 8 (remind you of anyone). Appalling.

It will vary but basically Chelsea will keep paying him until he gets a new job. However I would think that he is tasked to getting into the Champions League, so if he fails to do that his dismissal conditions will change. I remember with David Moyes Manchester United sacked him within 24 hours of it being mathmatically impossible for them to finish top four that season. There will be break points. Whatever happens he is no way going to immediately take the Saints job or anything like it.

The references to the fragility and inexperience of the squad really suggest that collectively there isn't/wasn't the know how to stay up. But also, if there is such a lack of experience why was he dropping Croatia Internationals from the squads completely? Oh well. I don't have much faith in Ankersen to find the rightreplacement.

When Graham Potter gets sacked by Chelsea, he is not going immediately take a job at some shitty relegation threatened team. This is not a computer game. He'll go off and take some time out etc etc. You'll notice Thomas Tuchel wasn't in the frame for the Bournemouth job when Scott Parker got sacked. Honestly.

"We should only appoint really good managers" is not the sparkling insight you seem to think it is.

The days of Adkins we were in League One and the days of Pochettino no one had ever heard of him and there was uproar.