CB Fry

Anything other than 100 points and they've utterly failed.

Agree. To be honest they probably needed to just say less about it. "We made a mistake and we're sorry it didn't work out" and stop talking. They're still trying to make out that they were right, really, that there was method in the madness etc etc. Just shut up about Jones. At best it's self justifying arrogance. At worst if shows a level of cluelessness that makes me very nervous about their future appointments. Have these guys got no judgement at all?

They will need the right manager and the recommendation of Jason Wilcox, the new director of football, recruited from Manchester City in January, will hold the most weight. The successor to Rubén Sellés will be in situ by the time the team return for pre-season training at the end of June. End of June? How long is it taking to do new manager Social Media announcement videos these days?

Office probably the wrong word - staff. 340 staff were contacted as being at risk of redundancy. Obviously they wont sll go but enough will. Basically the opposite of what would happen at "the start of the biggest era on our history" as Manji described it. It's not the biggest era for them, it's the sack.

Absolute shambles. Write it off as a bad job and get Jason Dodd and Woggy in now. They can take training first thing tomorrow morning.

You think matchday and commercial income for season 23/24 will be higher than it was for 22/23? Sure it will. Sure. (Clue: it's not "negative" to say we are relegated and making a load of people redundant. It's actually happening sweetheart).

Match day and commercial income is about to go through the floor

The very best players we have - Lavia, JWP, KBK, KWP - we are about to see all leave.

We’re about to make hundreds of office staff redundant.

Er, we could very easily be in the Skybet Championship for a decade.

We're not and never were appointing Potter post-Brighton and Chelsea so that's a completely irrelevent comparison, that's not apples with apples whatsoever.

Except Graham Potter had also taken a tiny Swedish club through to qualifying from the Group Stages of the Europa League, something Premier League Saints couldn't do. So slightly disengenous to make that comparison.

Eight am comes and goes and still nothing

Just because you've convinced yourself in your head doesn't mean it's not deluded. Graham Potter is not going to be Leicester manager or Leeds manager or Saints manager.

Whereas the case for Russell Martin is absolutely stunning and unarguable. 12th in the Premier League is an absolute universe away from anything Russell Martin has ever done.

Yes absolutely we are likely going to move on/sell/loan a lot of players. We're all expecting that, and many of us will welcome it. It's not quite the same as what @Pilchards was getting at in his first "fire sale" / "fear" / "low expectations" doom scenario post. The fanbase are expecting a proper promotion challenge and the club messaging has been all about going for that to. And if the only thing Dragon only "gives a fuck about" is "more money" then maybe get promoted to the richest league in the world, yeah? Don't even bother trying to do "told you so" stuff when we start selling players Pilchards. We all know we are going to. We all know.

One day into the close season everyone. One fucking day. Jesus wept.

You're correct. Leicester are fucked seven ways to Sunday.

I'm looking forward to Matt Gill and Dean Thornton being either a) blamed for everything being terrible or b) portrayed as actually all the success we've had is down to them by November

A minutes silence for Lord Duckhunter still not getting his dream of John Terry as Saints manager 💔😢😭😢

Jesus wept.

To be fair only about three weeks ago people on were still doing the old "hey everyone I've done another set of match predictors and I calculate we stay up by one point" so you can see the mentality.

There is - Nathan Jones in August prayed for Luton Town to be promoted.

I've Toney just lost £250.

I said this would be 4-all before kick off.