CB Fry

Game over

Jesus wept.

I can't believe you people are giving the Russians all this critical info on a plate for them.

The League starting 11 needs more 16 year olds.

Agree - Burnley are built for this stuff. And they've been grinding out points before tonight. If they stay up, which they can, someone's got to go down. (hopefully not Brentford).

Just noticed the last game of the season. Ooooof.

Newcastle going down at the expense of Burnley would be plenty for me.

Watford, on the other hand....

I get the feeling that the Everton/Newcastle/Leeds all going down thing isn't actually going to happen, lads.

Rhian Brewster cost about £25m from memory.

I agree. I can't stand those characters that just recycle the same stock phrases over and over again.

Exactly - if you look at Spain from last year, Villareal finished 7th and would have been in the Conference League this season. But they're not because they won the Europa. So they are in the Champions League. As a result no one from Spain qualified for the Conference League through La Liga. It did not go down to eighth place. Literally a real life example. No theories/permutations required. It's a forum tradition to go on about this and at least it's good that we're talking about this not relegation.

Fair enough, I'll make it easy. 8th doesn't get Europe in any scenario. If non top 4 team wins the CL it just eats into the CL places for league finishes - eg 4th ends up in the Europa.

take us through those eventualities please, clever stats man.

Absolutely shocking complacency.

Yes, is a nice read. He thinks (and he's probably correct) that the Newport game saved his Saints career. I think likely he would have been moved on without that performance.

Quite, and we want as much pressure on Newcastle as possible. Burnley getting points on the board and then taking advantage of their games in hand is the best hope of dragging Newcastle back in it. I don't really know why anyone would want Burnley not to win today.

Your point seems to be that a big club will probably win the cup and we won't. Which you are parading around like some exclusive genius insight that only clever old you has arrived at. When in reality it is a meaningless banality that barely needs saying. The rest of us would like Saints to try and win a cup.

Nice to see ten years on that neither me or @moonraker have changed our opinion one bit. Some absolute effing gems in that thread.

He never said that etc etc etc etc.

Only when we got to Cardiff, but that was why we qualified, not because we were 8th.

This is a forum tradition isn't it? Plenty of threads over the years of people convincing themselves that eighth means Europe when it never does. I think three slots max in the league: 5th - the only Europa slot guaranteed based on league placing 6th - if a CL team/team in 5th win the FA Cup 7th - if a team above win the league Cup (and this is now Conference not Europa) That's it. I don't think there is any scenario (team wins the CL but doesn't finish top 4 etc etc) that results in the team in eighth getting into Europe. Its a bit of a shame because I think clubs like us would love a bash at of Rapid Vienna or Honved in the Conference. Give us a couple of slots UEFA.

Eddie Howe currently rubbing his hands together and checking how far the London Stadium is from the Millennium Dome.

Big Jet TV is quite an addictive watch for this lunchtime.

So surely that 1 out of 5 times undermines your entire point.