CB Fry

"Come good" meaning we finish 10th, which is around about where his teams have finished for the entirety of his managerial career. Win the next three in a row and I'll let him wank on about scar tissue and inverted whatever as much as he likes.

Exactly. I think some people, me included, thought he would be relatively handy playing in a decent Championship team. But that is not, at any level "seriously overhyping" him.

Che Adams getting a transfer out of Southampton should have been incredibly straightforward for him to get over the line. An open goal. A tap in, if you will. I can't believe he missed it.

😂 absolutely love that 😂

Player signed for Turkish second division side keeps lots of clean sheets. What's "totally barmy" about that? Sounds like a good signing to me.

Yep. I know people don't want to think about it but September meant no automatic promotion. Over before we even started. Over before the clocks go back. So as you say, people raving about "7 points from three games, I'd have ripped your hand off" / "Rotherham just an off day" etc etc is frustrating. Because that's not enough is the point. There's no wriggle room to not beat the worst team in the league at home. If we'd have won those three in a row, hope. Tiny bit. We didn't. We achieved mediocrity.

That's a month of excuses in the fucking bag there.

He didn't really "keep Derby up by a point" it's far more realistic to say he nearly relegated them. Their end to that season was fucking dreadful, I think they lost like six or seven on the spin before the final day and they drew their last game to scrape up. He didn't achieve an escape, he took them into the relegation zone. The previous manager was poor but Rooney took over well before Christmas so had plenty of time. He was a big reason they were in the shit, he didn't swoop in and rescue them. All he did at Derby was a bit of "they're all against us" seige mentality stuff the following season when they were skint and had the points deduction. Did okay. But to be honest he had nothing to lose. He won a few Derby fans over that didn't like him the previous season. Good luck Birmingham.

Destroys all the "yes if but maybes" around the individual results. Mid table mediocrity manager sending out teams to deliver, on a plate, mid table mediocrity.

Who has "seen off" these two managers?

In fairness to the Lib Dems they get asked this question constantly, especially in the lead up to elections because everyone knows they won't win outright. They've got to have an answer to it. Jo Swinson tried the "your next Prime Minister" stuff and absolutely blew her election, including losing her own seat. And in those days, everyone agreed that she had great things in front of her. So it's not really tactics, they need a position this time and it's that they won't prop the Tories up. It's the only sensible position they can take.

Don't have one of the shittest goals against columns in the league. That would also help.

Do whatever Leicester are doing

Except that doesnt happen in practice, it was a going through the motions exercise with Gordon Browne. Either way this is academic because the election is not going to be that close. The Labour Party might not completely win, but the Conservatives are going to utterly lose.

That sounds more like winner stays on at the pub snooker table. The new parliament is formed by the seats won, there's no "ruling party" because parliament is dissolved before the election. There's lots of routes, but the main principle is the party with the most seats has first go at forming a government regardless of whether they have a majority. Can't see it being anyone but Labour from here.

This all goes back to when workers from Swindon crossed the picket line back in the days of the Reading Docks strike.

Yes, fine. But that's "hype" because at the moment he's only played a handful of matches at this level. 46 goals in 100-odd games is not "hype", it's "proven". I'm happy with Stewart and looking forward to him replacing Che Adams forever.

Ross Stewart has played thirteen games at Championship level his entire life. Piroe has played nearly 100 Championship matches and is scoring not far off 1 in 2, 46 goals. It's not "hype", he's clearly a proven Championship level striker. We've signed a proven League One striker with potential.

Why's that then?

You can't use four defeats in a row as a basis to then claim an "upward trend", sweetheart.

Not an upwards trend though is it? First five games: 10 points Last five games: 7 points You can put the game in the middle (Leicester) either side, zero points either way. There's no upward trend whatsoever. At a push, it's flat, or we have repaired from that dreadful run. We shouldn't be using 4 straight defeats as a platform to start crowing about "upward trends" and using it to hype our manager as if he's some miracle worker. Absolutely fucking ridiculous. We should never have been down there in the first place.

If your memory is the crowd got behind the team no-matter-what during the Branfoot years or the Dave Jones / Merrington / Souness relegation zone dross then sorry I don't remember that. I remember protests in the car park and plenty of moaning in the stands at the Dell.

Those Ipswich fans must be, like, so amazing and loyal sticking right behind their team through the thick and thin of losing one game all season.

The only explanation is something to do with out relationship with Swansea being so damaged. Should have been the no brainer of the summer.

72 points for the season is fucking shit mate.