CB Fry

Liverpool: supported by glory hunting fans all over the country who have also been able to smugly pretend they aren't glory hunters because their team hasn't bothered to win much. It's a heady cocktail that produces utter **** "fans". You are still glory hunters. You live in Bristol and support Liverpool. Seriously, eff off. Despite the fact I like the way they play, and the fact that an ex Reading/Watford boss might beat the other rent - a - foreigner managers, I still cannot bring myself to want them to win it.

I'm saying nine out of ten. Great football from a home grown (or organically assembled) team, with two out of three of our big money signings working out well, a very good hit rate. Our reputation and standing in the game has gone through the roof. And some astonishing halves of football, beating anything I can remember since Chris Nicholl's wonder kids season (which is really where my Saints memories begin). Really the dismal performances in both cups are the only major downside to the season, especially as this clearly was a perfect season to have a real tilt at one. Jay Rod not going to the WC (I wanted him to go more than Shaw, to be honest, because it seems he'd earned it more) and our godawful abortion of a kit were the only other two big negatives. Other than that a near perfect season. Everything I wanted to happen, did happen.

It's been proved conclusively that none of is true, then? The stuff around Man U intending to gazump Chelsea, and them stepping back could well be true at this point. As could the Evra thing. As could the Moyes bit. Our Les is incapable of saying none of that stuff has happened or is still happening. Les Reed ' s statement is great but is not the end of a chapter some seem to think it is. This is all part of the game, and it is far more multi - faceted than "that evil lazy journalist is a liar" and "a club spokesman has said it so it is undeniable truth".

Except it isn't the clubs planting the stories, or the journalists making them up. The sources are most likely to be from the web of agents and middle men connected to clubs, managers and players. With a few random sources thrown in, for example there is a bit David Moyes face saving going on, or, perish the thought, an embittered weasel-faced Italian keen to stir up some sh it.

Probably an agent getting carried away. Could be Luke Shaws agent, or someone connected. And the idea that Moyes played a role makes it an interesting angle for them to go with. As does the Evra thing. It's unlikely there hasn't been third - party to third - party contact, to be fair.

Standard stuff from Saint Richmond. The swivel - eyed lunatic's swivel - eyed lunatic.

Oh for the love of god. No funds are being "diverted", it's clearly an event to aid the club with that clear as day, up front. And you do realise giving to any cause is an entirely voluntary act, don't you? At absolute worst you can say these people are misguided, and the freaks on this thread can ha - ha- ha-aint- Pompey-funny all day long. Fill yer boots. But spare us the sanctimonious "ethics and morals" routine. Comparing it to Liverpool stealing from a Hillsborough fund? Seriously, get over yourself.

The only accurate part of this post is you saying you have no idea.

Moyes has been a complete disaster at Manchester United - why on earth would anyone think otherwise? I've commented on Moyes performance at OT elsewhere on this forum. Doesn't make him an average manager, though. And Everton under Martinez is at worst completely irrelevant to assessing Moyes contribution, or at best, a fine testimony to the foundations laid by Moyes in his very successful tenure. If Martinez was failing at Everton I have no doubt you would be using that in your dossier of shreds of evidence that Moyes was awful and left Roberto a terrible legacy.

I answered your question sunshine. What else do you want me to say? Go on, ask me another. I'm, like, on the ropes from your onslaught.

I'd be delighted. Perfectly happy with our current manager, though. But thanks for the laser sharp questioning.

The boy is on fire today. He really is.

There is a lot more than a shred of evidence on this thread to support the fact that you are, indeed, a plum.

This time last year you were so convinced by the Cortese era you were confidently stating we would be relegated, and the only balls you were admiring belonged to Wigan who had the guts and determination to stay up that we didn't. And you've moaned your arse off about some of the transfers Cortese sanctioned, and a lot of the spending/non spending. And moaned about our slow pace in every single transfer window in the Cortese era. Oh yeah, you absolutely loved the Cortese era.

Obviously it won't but I think we all know that. You're playing a blinder, though. Really you are.

So David Moyes is responsible for ten seasons of Everton spending before he even joined? You're playing a blinder with your "shreds of evidence" you really are.

If Moyes is an average manager, that would make Pochettino an effing dreadful one. The knee - jerk Sky sports "ohh he's so terrible" reaction has been a complete joke. Top 6/7 season in, season out is far from average.

Do you really think sending a teenage left back to the world cup is comparable to the selection of Rooney and Owen? Dear me, we know how to get carried away on here, don't we.

You said they both turned down CL clubs. Until you backtracked, of course.

I think he wanted it more than they wanted him. They stupidly wanted to gamble on someone to "grow into" the job for the "long term" when frankly what they needed was someone, anyone, to prove that the club could be immediately successful post - Fergie. Jose would have never stayed long - probably three seasons - but he would almost guarantee a league title, and cast iron guarantee a cup or two and top four every season. They will regret not swallowing some pride and getting him in.

I know that. So why say they did, then?

So neither did then. Good. Apology accepted.

I've plumped up a cushion in anticipation of the fascinating stories about what clubs and when.