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PS Also mentioned the "magnificent gesture" of Davis, Euell etc. in deferring their wages.

Wondered when you'd raise your head above the parapet again. He's f*cked up, he's gone, good riddance, you can stop defending him now. Doesn't that feel good?

Just done a mini feature on Saints showing the cup teams, classic goals from MLT, Beatts, Theo etc. Lots of sympathy from Stelling, and Matt naturally seemed very cut up by the whole thing. Said he's meeting the Administrator on Monday morning "to see how I can help" - definitely more of a PR aid to findining investment, rather than fronting something himself. Said that "those at the top should be having sleepless nights" for what they have done - when pressed by Stelling, he mentioned Lowe, Cowen and also "previous boards" - Wilde and Crouch. Stelling listed off the players sales over the last few years and their values and ask "where has all the money gone?". Matt commented that there had been significant financial mismanagement. Also commented that when we were getting 32k gates in the Prem why didn't we try to chip away at the debt; and also wondered why we didn't "push on" after the Cup Final, when we only spent £4m on players - tellingly alluded to Stracan leaving due to that frustration. Stelling came up with something that has always puzzled me "why is it so difficult to attract investors in one of the richest areas of the country?" [imo suspect the reason has just departed the club - hopefully doors will be now open to positive investment]. Something of a positive note at the end that they hoped a saviour would be found. Cottee commented on what a great club it was. Panel agreed that League will have to dock us the 10 points to be fair to other clubs (bar Matt who didn't comment).

I still have no doubt he has SFC at heart. From what I understand he didn't get on with Lowe (who did?), so perhaps he has to shoulder some of the blame for driving away a "friend" (and a very useful one at that) to the club. If he was interested, or wanted to front a consortium, I'd have him no problem.

Mark, one thought I have had - mentioned in other posts - is whether we can get any well known Saints fans with business experience on board, or even to help front/run this. Gavyn Davies is the one who naturally springs to mind, but I am sure there are others too. I think most fans are positive about this move, but you will already have seen misgivings from some due to past experience with other fans groups where typically "the ususal suspects" end up running the show and things either peter out or become somewhat ego driven. I think the visible inclusion of a Gavyn Davies or similar will provide real credibilty to this initative and quell fears from some fans that it'll end up not being professionally organised (with absolutely no disprespect to you, Derry, or the others trying to get this thing moving, as I have no idea of your background or experience - in fact I salute you all for driving this forward). COYS!

We once did a thread on those who start posts with "I'm not a luvvie but..." and I think you have just won first prize! Don't want to start another dissection of Lowe's tenure, we are where we are - many have played a part and are culpable, but I suspect no one more than him. He's gone, good riddance, now time to try and find a way out of this appalling mess we're in...

blah blah blah I'm not to blame blah blah blah totally down to overspending in the 2 years I wasn't here blah blah blah hold my head up high blah blah will have achieved my objective of keeping the football club alive blah blah blah RJ "So you're putting these trouble down to the two years you weren't here?" RL "yes". Blah RJ "Do you accept any responsibility" RL "We got relegated when I was at the helm" (but had money in the bank blah blah blah etc.) Basically not one shred of humility, and a total refusal to accept or even share responsibility for our current predicament. Predicatable in the extreme. Let's hope he never shows his smug face in So'ton again (for his own sake as much as anything).

Just tried the link. Got the following message over the video opening frame: "This content doesn't seem to be working. Try again later". A can think of no more fitting epitaph for this pompous, egotistical baffoon.

"What's your point, caller?"

Agreed, that at least. Was just trying to point out the error in his maths.

We'd have £4m, not nearly enough...

Good work Derry. Open question - does anyone have any contacts with Saints fans with significant financial experience (doesn't have to be Gavyn Davies, but he'd be ideal!) that might want to get involved in this via SaintsTrust? No disprespect to those running SaintsTrust currently, but I think we'd need some real financial muscle/acumen to get this up and running, if indeed it's a viable option. Like most people my preference is for another consortium to come in, but at least this is an option, and may possibly stimulate other interest...

Agreed, if we got someone of the ilk of Gavyn Davies involved, or preferably to lead it, this would give this option great credibility. Gavyn - if you're out there, how about it? Of course, also feel free to put together your own consortium! I voted to stick in £2.5k but could go higher if this is a truly viable solution.

Won't it just be sold off by the administrators to pay off our creditors?

Maybe - was going by the new headline on the OS saying that "Saints have slashed ticket prices for this Saturdays crucial game against Charlton in a bid to pack out St. Mary's and roar the team to safety". Sounded like it was 'new' news... http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/articles/article.php?page_id=11572

They've reduced prices to £15 for adults, £5 for concessions so surely it'll be a full house now? Good move imo - need to get behind the lads and show any potential buyers the massive potential of this club...

SSN also reported (from the Press Conference) that the football club may not survive to the end of the season. So do we have cash until the end of the season, or not?

That's right, Chapter 11 in the US.

And I honestly think that Lowe was never seriously looking for one, well, not until it was too late anyway. ***t.

Don't believe that is necessarily the whole truth - Administrators also have to look at who would provide the best chance of the entity being a going concern over a period of time, and that would involve ensuring that the 'buyer' is stable and not just a short-term fix. Otherwise any tom-d1ck-or money launderer could thrown down some cash and get the deal. Who mentioned Crouch?!? Not me. As far as I am concerned Lowe, Wilde, Crouch have all had their time (although I would say Leon's heart was at least in the right place - but that isn't enough). We need a heavy-hitter if we're going to move forward and prosper.

Suspect it will be at least be near 30k.

From another thread, by Exit2 - So, yes, your fears may be justfified, but is he really that much of a pr1ck/egotist....? Yes, of course he is. But does he have the money? Would the Admins deem him a good buyer, given his key role in where we are now??

Lordy - is he really that much of a sucker for punishment? Isn't driving us into League 1 and Adminsitration enough for him? Why doesn't he just f**k off and shoot ducks for the rest of his life. Honestly, what a ****.

SSN Breaking News - LOWE, COWEN AND WILDE RESIGN FROM CLUB BOARD...

Got to be a full house v. Charlton and our remaining games now. COYS!