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But ultimately there is no one to blame more than him...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/apr/27/southampton-bidders-list-championship Not much detail, but at least it seems Lowe is not involved in any of the bids. Thank **** for that!

Perhaps we could hire Dexter to "do a job" for us? After all, he likes to take out people who contribute nothing to society...

Just an Epsom RX425 printer -does normal printing (docs), photos and has a scanner/copier built in. Bought it a few years ago, so sure there are better models now, but it wasn't that expensive either (the bl00dy ink is though!). Bought from PC World.

The mark of the beast!

Check out this photo in yesterday's Guardian... Look closely. Is that the ghostly spectre of Rupert Lowe on Wotten's blood soaked shirt, grinning at our demise? Like I say, spooky...

The Setanta commentator?? No relation I don't think. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Lowe Does Lowe have adult kids? or a sister? Good God I hope that cn_t is not involved.

It's UK - which should include Jersey/Guernsey - and includes UK residents like Mittal (#1) and Abramovich (#2) who aren't British (least I don't think Mittal is). Also does a list of the 50 richest in the world, but that's obviously just the mega big hitters like Paul Allen (#36 in the world, £7.3bn). If they were real big boys they'd be on here, not to say they aren't still significantly wealthy. Other names linked with us (in the past) are Gavyn Davies #600 (£90m) and Rod Stewart (yes, I know?!?!?), #540 (£100m).

Neither is on the Sunday Times Rich List, but that's probably expecting too much anyway! I guess beggars can't be choosers, but I really did hope we'd attract someone with a bit of financial clout (given rumours of a "household name" being involved in one of the consortia).

An excellent article. The Guardian seems to be the only national taking note of our plight. Sadly, I don't expect the rest of football to take notice... Actually, I was interested in this line in his article "Until someone proves otherwise, we are obliged to suspect c_ck-up rather than conspiracy."... as the day before there was the following line in the match report in the Guardian, by Jeremy Alexander (link below), which made me sit up and take notice - "Another FA investigation may discover where a reported £40m went missing." Could be just an oblique reference to us squandering tens of millions of transfer income, but I'm starting to wonder - has The Guardian got a whiff of something less than honest going on at SMS? http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/apr/27/southampton-burnley-championship-relegation I know I've always tried to fathom how with our gate receipts (from fairly decent attendences), the transfer money, commercial income etc. we've ended up SO deep in trouble. Obviously £40m is a heck of a figure to hide under the carpet, but it did get me thinking...

In which case you'd probably need to call it the "Leon & Lawrie Stadium". Nothing at all wrong with St. Mary's Stadium, and I wouldn't expect that to change (although if RB wants to buy us and call it the Virgin (St.) Mary Stadium - fine with me!).

Although, as we know - out of the thousands of letters (of complaint) he'd pick the one that tells him he's doing a good job (doubtless from Jonah or 19Canteen/GuidedMissile) and wave that around as some sort of mandate to carry on his "good work". Wonder what state we'd have to be in for him to admit we weren't doing well - perhaps SMS in a pile of rubble? Mind, that'd probably be blamed on Crouch or the fans too...

Me too. I have been a fan for over 40 years but if this cn_t takes power again that will be it for me I am afraid. Honestly, why does he bother? - he's a complete failure, he's a terrible leader, he has 0% confidence from his customers, and he has taken us down twice and into administration. FFS!!! I really worry that his personality flaw means that he will keep on trying to "teach us (all) a lesson" and we will end up in the Blue Square League... Message to Rupert - YOU ARE NOT WANTED AT THIS CLUB, OR IN SOUTHAMPTON. D_UCK OFF, AND DO NOT DARKEN OUR DOOR AGAIN. AND TAKE ALL YOUR SNIVELLING LITTLE SIDEKICKS WITH YOU!

Hasn't happened yet, but it will be the final whistle at the City Ground next weekend, when we can put the whole debacle of this season behind us and move on (hopefully!).

In an alternate universe one presumes?

Not Hoddle again, been there, done that. Doubt his ego would let him go to a "3rd division" club anyway.

You seem to suggest he only arrived when JP left... he's been here all season, and has been involved in the whole flawed strategy. Time for him, and any remnants of Lowe's bizarre experiment, to go...

I think you'll find we're in 'League One', not 'Division 1'. Well, we will be. At the bottom of it. Which is why I prefaced my question with "assuming we get new owners with ambition..." - if we do, why the hell shouldn't we go for someone like Ince? He's not working, and we're a big enough club to fulfil his ambitions, and prove a point. If we end up with Lowe again, you're right, we will end up with a trained Lap Dog (Wotte). But then if we end up with Lowe again, I will never attend another Saints game, and I suspect many thousands will feel the same way.

Absolutely not (notte?). He has to share responsibility for our performance - he was here all season remember - and ultimate relegation this year and, in my view, we have to end all ties with Lowe's ridiculous experiment and start afresh with new ideas, new team management and new focus. It would be catastrophic to retain Wotte.

That was the bit that scared me. Will this guy never stop? - he's brought the club to it's knees, relegated us twice, yet still thinks he's some kind of "saviour". Seriously, he needs to be sectioned...

Okay, assuming we get new owners in with ambition, heart and business acumen (all of which excluse Lowe, Wilde etc.), who would you like as our new manager?? I'd be reasonably happy with someone like Dowie, who I think could do a job, but the one that stands out to me is Paul Ince. He has experience at that level, will have a point to prove and is the sort of character who could actually lead us back up through the divisions. This all presupposes that Wotte goes - which imo is a MUST if we are to move forward. He has to take a large share of blame for this year (although appointing him and JP in the first place was just plain stupid), and we need to cut all ties with Lowe's failed experiment. Onwards and upwards with Incey say I...

No doubt Jonah, 19 Canteen/Guided Missile, NickH etc. will be scratching their heads right now, wondering how to pin the blame on someone else (anyone but the adored Lord Lowe). Although I have been resigned to it for some time, tonight I am VERY VERY angry at what this band of boardroom idiots have done to our club.

Which was patently obvious to all - apart from one toffy-nosed egotistical arrogant ****, who not only failed to see that, but also decided to put a couple of Dutch non-league no hopers in charge of the whole ridiculous circus. Congratulations Agent Lowe, your mission is accomplished...

Why not just say we get it next year then? - if we stay up we start CCC with -10, if we go down we start L1 with -10. That would be more consistent surely?

Totally agree - well done Matt. This aspect doesn't seem to have been picked up in the media at all so far - not only do we get the 10 point deduction, but whatever happens we get relegated too due to this "either/or" clause. It would seem fairer to say we either get it this year, OR next year - one or the other - not keep their options open so we get the "what if" penalty as Matt calls it. Have any other club had this type of clause in their 10 point deduction?