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Yet another ex Saint who's career has nose-dived whist his bank balance has gone the other way.

I doesn't matter what deal he signed anyway, managers can sign whatever they want and still just quit.

****ing hell, any time I actually want Man U to win they **** it it up.

This, ****ing nothing club, think they are a big club because they have a quirky food related name, purple kit and sing about bubbles. Fact is in my lifetime they have won **** all and spent most of the time below Saints yo-yoing between leagues supported by mouthy cockney nobheads. Think it is a London thing, anyone who lives in that ****hole think they are bigger than they are.

Still, I think it would be a little naive to completely ignore the fact that it wasn't too long ago the Germans were trying to take over Europe and gas millions of people because of their religion.

Couldn't be a more appropriate way to say goodbye to Upton Park TBF.

Love the way pro EU people gloss over the uncontrolled mass immigration and its effects. Wages forced downwards for the lowest paid, the housing crisis, public services stretched to breaking point - none of these issues can ever be sorted if we don't have control, or even any idea of how many hundreds of thousands will turn up every year.

No plan B

I'd prefer it if our DOF was bigging up our own manager in the press rather than sucking off a **** who jumped ship at the first opportunity.

I dunno about that, I heard from a very good source that he was interviewed and decided he didn't want it because Cortese wouldn't give him full control of the footballing side. This was before anything got in the media via Mitchell. I'm not sure if he was actually offered anything, just that he spoke and didn't want it.

I'm no fan of Corbyn but it makes sense to talk to these people instead of just labelling them as evil, that applies to both sides.

Amazing achievement, hopefully the start of a new era where the big boys don't dominate as much.

****ing funny watching that Argie **** lose it.

Corbyn has been crystal clear in being against antisemitism, not sure why people think it's his fault that a few nobheads in Labour have been talking ******. I can see why many on the left despise Israel though, their treatment of Palestinians has bordered on inhuman, plus their links to the USA is also going to be a factor.

Wasn't it the Liverpool supporters who blamed lack of fencing for the Heysel tragedy a few years before Hillsborough? The blame of Hillsborough lies with the Police because whatever the type of people going - it was their job to ensure supporter safety. But the way football was going in the 80's (violence, old stadiums etc) probably made a tragedy like Hillsborough inevitable. It could have been us or any other set of fans, it was just bad luck on Liverpool. But the behaviour of supporters in the 80's day did play a part. I remember hearing the news filter through on the radio (I think we were away at West Ham, might be wrong), at first it was "crowd trouble at Hillsborough" and most people's first reaction was to assume it was hooliganism that caused it "not those ****ing scousers again" - until the facts became clear. I expect the Police at the time absolutely hated football fans (along with much of the UK population) because of the minority of idiots who thought it big and clever to beat people up because of the team they support. Idiots who think they have some sort of right to get ****ed up, cause all sorts of havoc and expect the Police to clear their **** up and keep everyone safe at the same time. I'm not surprised in the Police's siege mentality and cover-up at all.

Yes but Police are human, and humans will always make mistakes. 6ft high fences with spikes on the top are an obvious potential hazard - and they were only there because of the behaviour of some football fans.

I'm not obsessed at all just think that the behaviour of some fans in the 80's was disgraceful and people should be responsible for their actions. It's easy to blame the police but fact is football fans were herded around and treated like animals because many acted like animals.

Sums up my opinion of it all. Any police that lied or covered up should be prosecuted but the events on the day were just an unfortunate tragedy with many contributing factors, the Police didn't mean to kill anyone. If the police had not ****ed up the 96 would still be alive, but also if so many football fans in the 1980's were not such violent ****s there would have been no fences and the the 96 would still be alive. If the police didn't think the Liverpool and Forest fans would try to kick the sh!t out of each other there would have been more turnstiles open and maybe there wouldn't have been a need to open a gate.

I except the findings of the inquest and that the Police are to blame but I think you have to put the whole thing in the context of the day. The fences were there because of the awful behaviour of some football fans during the 80s, the police's main concern at the time was probably to stop ****ed up idiots fighting each other. The police's attitude was shaped by the fact that they spend most of their time fighting with and clearing up the mess left by football hooligans. These are all factors which contributed to the awful tragedy IMO.

You are ignoring the fact that we know we are pumping billions of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere every year. We know it, we can measure it, and we know it absorbs more heat.

Legally that was the only conclusion they could reach but I still think the behaviour of football supporters at the time in general played a part. Fact is, if so many fans in the 80s were not ****s (Liverpool had more than most) then the fences would not have been there and the police would have been more concerned with safety rather than keeping two lots of idiots apart.

That's why I'm voting to leave, don't really give a flying **** what big business think is good for them.

I have no idea what the laws on child neglect in Portugal are but it's not odd in the slightest that they haven't been charged, it would hardly be in the public interest of a town reliant on tourism. As for keeping the investigation open to keep the heat away from themselves - that makes no sense at all. It was years ago, there would be no heat, any heat/publicity/interest would have ended years ago if it were not for their efforts.

Oh come on, he obviously has major issues with the criticism their police force got so the book was just a way of hitting back. Plus it was a no lose gamble money wise, I doubt some fat, useless ex cop in Portugal has many other ways of potentially making a large sum of money (if he did). There are some oddities surrounding the McCann case but the idea that they killed her and somehow disposed of the body is just fantasy. The fact that they have actively been raising money to keep it high-profile for years and actually got the Police to keep investigating the case goes against any idea that they did it.

They may not have been 100% honest but the idea that they killed her is just bonkers.