aintforever

I can't believe that will happen, it only ever goes one way. Turkeys don't vote for Christmas - the EU is in charge and it will only ever want more power and more of our money.

Quoting percentages of MPs views is completely pointless, it's the British people who will decide, how the MPs will vote is irrelivant. Wether you are left wing or right makes little difference IMO, I'm more left leaning and I am going to vote out.

I think it's a bit of a no-lose gamble as most of the Tory party members are anti EU.

Its no great surprise that a German car company want us in the EU. The more the Germans say they want us in the more I think we could probably get a better deal out - they will only be worried about the effect on them not us.

They always seem to be the same people who cry like babies because they pay a bit of tax.

****ing hell do you really believe the stuff you write? Millions of people around the world rely on subsistence agriculture that depends on certain climate/weather conditions their people have depended on for hundreds of years. Climate change is way more likely to cause mass starvation than any possible impact of the fertilisation effect. In the developed world we moan about the odd flood or storm, in undeveloped countries if the rains don't come, or floods do - people die. We are breaking temperature records all over the place, seemingly every year yet you are worried about a possible ice age - LOL, think you are a few marbles short.

No reason why it should cause either.

Yes, there are a lot of other factors Yes, there is much to learn about the science Yes, it impossible to forecast what will happen yes, you have to be a ****ing idiot not to do anything about it

Would be a sensible question if we didn't already know that we pumped billions of tons of it into the atmosphere every year. That's a fact, the properties of CO2 as a greenhouse gas is fact and the temperature rise is a fact.

He has done **** all since leaving us.

I think he just said the Japanese idea was worth considering, probably to appease those in the submarine industry. do you have a link to where he has ever said it was his preferred option?

I guess he thinks it's a huge waste if he said that just two days ago.

He's always been anti trident, that is crystal clear. I think he said the Japanese idea of subs with other warheads was worth considering. I don't think he has ever said that was his preferred option. Blowing billions on a bunch of nuclear weapons at a time when the country is skint is complete madness.

Might as well make it our main rivalry IMO. Portsmouth are an irrelevance now, could be decades before we even play them again. Southampton v Bournemouth, Portsmouth v Eastliegh - that's the derbies of the future.

Everyone will have their own reasons but the in campaign are playing on people's fear of change, and it will probably work because the economy is doing OK.

I think the in campaign has been more negative, just playing on people's fear of change. The more I read about the state of the EU, the cost, size and unstoppable movement towards more and more power the more convinced I am to vote out. Hopefully the more the British public learn the less afraid they will be of the alternative.

Yes, but throwing punches and furniture could be an act of self defence. I have no time for football hooligans but can't see how it can be right to punish people who have not been convicted of a crime.

It's not right that people get punished without being convicted of a crime.

Fact is you haven't got the faintest clue how many people will turn up next year from Poland, Romania etc, nor have our MPs. We don't know and as long as we are in the EU can do nothing about it whatsoever.

I Think Saints are one of the best clubs at nurturing talent, so many have left and gone downhill. I guess it's because we have a good set-up and there is less pressure here than at the big clubs. Plus there must be less distractions here than at places like London. Play for a London club and you have the bright lights, night clubs, parties etc - being a pro footballer there and I expect you spend half your time off your face on coke and scrotum deep in supermodels. Southampton has The Orange Rooms, La Margeritas and a Nandos.

The more I see **** like that the more I think what a bunch of tossers we have in our parliament. We pay these people to debate serious issues not throw schoolboy insults around. Makes you wonder what the point of voting is.

To be fair we don't know what being in an even closer union could mean to the future UK, with more and more mass immigration, the bailouts etc either. 400k more people every year whilst making cuts in services - sounds risky to me.

I wonder how many jocks will vote to leave just because of this?

I would say Locks Heath is the border but not everyone is as tribal us on here. I know people who used to go to Fratton Park when they were in the Prem who now take their kids to St Mary's. Some people just want to watch decent football.

I expect both the in and out camps have told him to **** off.