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Exactly, the blokes an idiot. Every time he opens his mouth he just makes things worse for himself. Scrapping Trident makes sense, but having Trident without Nukes is just nonsense.

This migrant crisis will be a big boost for the out campaign.

A steal at £4mill, great deal.

I said we should help, not Germany.

Exactly, when he's old and ****e he might fancy a couple of seasons in the Premier League so you never know.

I have never said I thought he would be prime minister - you should learn to read.

I don't think he will, but you never know what is around the corner. If there is another, bigger financial collapse then I can see a swing to the left.

You don't know that for sure.

The migrants arriving in Europe obviously causes problems but they pale into insignificance compared with the problems the normal decent people in Syria and Iraq face, partly thanks to what our country has done. German women having their arses groped is not good but in Syria thousands have had the face the choice of fleeing their homes or face living under the control of a psychopathic death cult and get bombed by various armies. The least we should do is help them even if it effects our cushty lives a little bit.

Get in!

This guy must have a ****ing good agent.

No you wouldn't, we would have been the same ball.

I don't think sliding towards relegation was part of our business model though.

Can't see Corbyn hanging around that long somehow. My point is it is all about perceptions, at least now when David Milliband or someone similar takes over with a half decent team it might appear like a fresh, more electable Labour - not just another bunch of career politicians (which is how it would have been perceived had the current clowns not taken charge). That's assuming Labour can elect someone half decent, which is a big assumption.

Blair would never get re-ected purely because the mess he has made of the Middle East with his illegal war, they are the only chickens coming home to roost. The idea that New Labour was dead and buried because of the last election defeat and the party had to go in a different direction nonsense IMO. Labour lost because they had an unelectable leader and just happened to be in power when the global crash hit. A similar Blair style Labour could easily win again, especially if the Tories are in power when the next crash hits. In a way this period with Corbyn in charge could prove to be a good watershed for Labour.

Yes, but that has little to do with how electable they are. The largest effects of the last labour government was caused by the global crash. Whoever was in charge at that time would be easily blamed by their opposition and have the **** kicked out of them by the electorate.

Except I don't think it was Blairite policies which the country rejected, it was just Milliband was unelectable and Labour just happened to be in power when the global crash happened. It's not hard for Cameron to look the best bet for PM when the opposition oversaw the disaster and their leader is a cartoon character with a speech defect. A cente left, Blair style Labour is the only Labour that would get into power IMO.

Relegation is a serious threat, we need to invest some money this window.

Not sure why. I hate the Tories and all they stand for with a passion, but I would have to think twice before giving him the keys to no10. I agree with some of his policies but certain things, like his hug a terrorist approach, make him simply unelectable.

I just find the whole thing fasinating. Corbyn and his supporters appear to be in a complete world of their own, I guess these political types spend their whole lives surrounded by similar people and get carried away with their ideas. Then they get to a point where it becomes an internal struggle within the party and their own selfish agenda and desire for power outweighs what is in the best interests of the party. Just being in control of Labour is their victory, what happens at the general election or what it means for the rest of the country is irrelevant. We need a new left of centre party, unions are an out dated concept anyway.

As long as we have a decent team I couldn't give a monkeys if none or all our squad comes from our academy - it is not important to me in the slightest.

I'm note sure why anyone is getting worked up over this. Fact is that the market we are in we are going to get players using us as a stepping stone. We buy players that the big clubs are looking at but don't take a chance on, get them to prove themselves as good Premier League players then sell for a profit. Players will always choose a Liverpool or Spurs over Southampton, you just have to accept that and build a plan around it which is what we have done very effectively so far.

Interesting link, this bit particularly rings true; " To an extent, what is happening in the Middle East is what happens when America and the West suddenly lose interest." Militarily IS are **** all, for all the big talk in the media the UK and US don't give a ****e about those areas of Iraq and Syria. Most of the oil producing parts of Iraq are secure, that's all that matters. We've gone in, secured the oil, and left the place to rot.

Yes we are, it's amazing how so many people get deluded after a couple of good seasons. There are loads of examples of teams getting into Europe then relegated the season after, like Hull last season. In 2003 we were a model club, thought we'd cracked it. Yet in 2005 we finished bottom.

No reason why not, done it before. All you lot wet the bed when Lallana and co were sold.