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How is being a pacifist disrespectful to the armed forces. Surely the governments that send their troops into war to die for a bit of oil are the disrespectful ones?

He only has to jump through the hoops because simpletons like you believe all they read in the right wing press.

This. Unless Labour sort their **** out the next general election will just be a farce. I'm probably more left leaning than most and even I would not fancy the idea of letting Corbyn loose in no. 10.

What exactly would be an acceptable excuse for leaving a bit early then? a: You want to b: Unlike some on here you have a social life and have arranged to go out that evening and being stuck in post match traffic would make you late. c: Your wife is giving birth, her cervix is 9cm dilated and staying to see the last few minutes of a drab 2-1 defeat will mean you miss the birth of your child. d: You are an officer on a nuclear submarine parked in Southampton docks and have accidentally left the missile on auto-fire, aimed at Moscow and and staying to see the last few minutes of a drab 2-1 defeat might mean the end of the world.

Even better if you go, get to watch a football game, and as a bonus get to p!ss off some sad moaning tosser as well.

Or go, and leave a bit early to avoid the traffic. You are right, it's not tricky.

I guess some people have other stuff to do in their lives as well as watch 22 blokes kick a ball around a field and don't fancy sitting in traffic for an hour.

This whole subject is just getting tiresome now. Football has to be one of the most ethnically diverse industries around. Where I work I see only white people, turn on the TV and the House of Commons is virtually all white, the head of 'x' business or bank interviewed on the news is nearly always white, watch England play rugby and it's virtually all white, same with cricket. Then you get some "kick it out " **** telling us football has a problem when every week I watch a multitude of different colours and nationalities kick a ball around and not a hint of racism in the stands. It seem to me that football fans are the people suffering from prejudice nowadays.

I suppose because the superior physique of the black player has doesn't give them any sort of advantage when applying to be a manager. A better question would be, how can there possibly be racism in football when there are so many black players?

So are all students left wing now?

Mate, give it a rest, we all know you live in Sholing. This caricature of an American idiot is not fooling anyone.

That would explain why I've seen him a few times in the Fox n Hounds.

We might as well embrace this as our South Coast derby, it will probably be a decade before we play Pompey again.

Happy with this draw, the League cup won't be a priority for Liverpool so I think we will have a great chance.

Our gun control laws are the reason a Derek Bird type incident doesn't happen every few months like in the US you dumb ***t.

But they should feel comfortable everywhere, that's the point. That's why it's good that these famous people come out - because culture can change.

I don't mean 2nd base or anything like that but I've seen plenty of couples holding hands etc. You have to be naive in the extreme to not think the culture that surrounds football is not off-putting to homosexual displays of affection. Saints are a fairly decent club but I know some right nasty pieces of work that go to games.

I have seen many gay people holding hands etc before, go to Brighton or Soho and it is a very common sight, yet at St Mary's it's not. The reasons for that is that is 1: There are probably more gay people in those places. and 2: They probably feel more comfortable/safer showing affection in these places than at a football ground - because of the culture that surrounds football.

Just because you don't see people shouting homophobic comments or committing hate crime on a daily basis doesn't mean homophobic attitudes don't exist. I would say it is much more prevalent than racism. When was the last time you saw two gay fans holding hands or kissing at a football match? I've been going to football for over 30 years and don't remember one occasion.

Not sure why you get so defensive, I'm guessing it's because deep down you know we are right and that bugs you. You also probably realise that with ever massacre there is, people with your attitude have blood on their hands because you are the reason nothing is changing. There is plenty wrong with the UK, but that's not the subject of this thread.

Except within the Church and also some Muslim countries - where it still carries the death penalty.

There was a classic SWF meltdown.I definitely remember some people getting upset, saying he was irreplaceable

Poor old St George is just getting defensive because he knows we are right and the truth hurts, especially coming from a bunch of Limeys who naturally have a superiority complex. I loved every minute of it when I was over in the states, it's a fantastic country. But they need to sort their gun problem out - any right minded Yank would say the same.

MORE successful without the egomania, pettiness, fan-unfriendliness and terrible PR. As Hypo says above, plenty of posters on here tried to convince us that these attributes were necessary to run a football club when in fact they are counter-productive.

Good bet, there is no way they will survive with the injuries they have. They are only above the bottom three because of a decent run of fixtures, they will be way adrift by Xmas.