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Are any fanzines still around? I guess this internet thing has killed them off. "hope you die soon" was a classic. The mongs on here would wet themselves if a similar thing was produced today.

It's more about the fan than the club. all clubs from Man Utd to maidstone have real fans that "get it". I think it's safe to say that the real Man Utd fans have had a richer experience of what football can give than us. As Saints fans we have had a pretty good deal though. All those years of top flight football plus the ups and downs of recent seasons. supporting some lower league clubs must be pretty bland in comparison.

It proves that players will play anywhere for the right money. Of course there is an element of selling the dream but by far the biggest factor is how much money they will get. Obviously another factor could be the fact that a top player is more likely to get first team action at saints rather than a top club.

"This club is going places and they can match my ambitions." Peter Crouch when he signed for Portsmouth in 2008

why do we assume southampton are different to any other medium size clubs with wealthy owners? Cortese is obviously good at selling the ambition of the club but it takes serious cash to get top players at a club like Saints. When football players say ambition they mean money because invariably in todays game they are the same thing.

Players will play anywhere if you pay them enough.

Er yeah, that's a huge concern. Next time I hack into NASA I will make sure I'm more careful. Seriously, who gives a flying f*ck if google share their info with the US government? I couldn't think of anything more trivial or boring than knowing what you or I search the internet for. As for reading my emails, the same, even I get bored reading my emails. Good luck to the fella at the FBI who has to trawl through the pages of the garbage I get sent.

I still don't have any issues with it. If the argument is against a government trying to be too controlling what the US does is irrelevant because they have no authority over us. Anyway whatever the laws are you can guarantee the secret services will do whatever they want anyway. If you type "how to make a bomb" into google you can bet your life someone somewhere will be sat there looking through your computer and will know pretty much everything about you in minutes.

It's naive to think it's just the US doing this, I expect our secret services do exactly the same. Im neither surprised or bothered by it to be honest. Digital communications is such a powerful tool, our government would be foolish not to utilise it fully to combat terrorism.

It's like TCWTB has made him stand outside with the teddies because he doesn't have an instrument.

I reckon 7th is probably the best we could possibly achieve, unless Liverpool go tits up.

If he was better than Jos, Fonte or Yoshida of course he would have used him. Managers pick their best players. The fact that the Norwegian season ended last November and he had a nice holiday afterwards is no reason why he wouldn't play in March or April. If anything he should be fresher and raring to go.

I'm not sure he was ever injured. If he was that is fair enough but the idea that it takes 5 months to get over a holiday is bizarre. No club fighting relegation would spend £3.5mill on a player just to use the next season.

That excuse is just b*ll****, it doesn't take that long to get fit. He hasn't played because he is not good enough to get in the side - it's as simple as that.

Who's shane?

I agree with him that clubs should embrace their history though. The cult might not like it but he has a point in that respect.

Great stuff from Nigel. I expect Reading to bounce straight back up.

why did I bother?

The thing is, every time your bizarre theories are exposed you get all defensive and start babbling on about nothing. What's your theory behind the black fella's day-glow orange hands?

F*cking idiot

I was headbutted by a QPR fan outside the Milton end and ran away like a girl because he was old.

The molten liquid pouring out is more than likely just aluminium from the plane or a mixture of aluminium and other melted stuff. Considering it is pouring out from the area where the plane hit this is by far the most likely explanation. If thermite was in this area there is no way it would have survived the initial blast and high temperatures. It got hot, things burnt. If it was a controlled demolition it would need literally miles of wires and loads detonators etc. There would be plenty of evidence, not just physical but accounts from people who worked in both towers who would have had to have seen people drilling and wiring stuff up. I'm not some one who believes everything governments say, I think the US and UK governments are more than capable of doing some pretty nasty stuff to get their own way. But these 9/11 conspiracies would need to involve so many people they are completely unbelievable. For an act of evil this bad, any believable theory could only ever involve no more than a handful of people in a rogue secret services unit.

This is hard work, you are very good at skirting around the points i made. I am fully aware of thermite but you would need tons and tons of it to bring down the buildings that way. Plus it burns very very brightly and as most of the building's strength was in the outside columns (It was basically a big tube) if you were to try to cut through these with thermite you would see it miles away. To try and cut through the central concrete core with thermite just wouldn't work. Plus the structures failed at the area of impact (obvious from viewing the footage), you would need tons of thermite and explosive set up on those floors able to withstand an aircraft hitting it then be detonated an hour later to achieve what we saw. These is no evidence that contradicts the accepted reasons for the collapse.

The 9/11 controlled demolition theories are laughable. The structures clearly failed at the area of impact of both planes, to achieve that they would have had to wire up the specific floors for demolition and make sure the planes hit the exact area - or wire up the whole building for demolition (impossible). And the wired up explosives (or melting metal demolition technology that doesn't even exist) would have to be done under the noses of the thousands who worked there, and be able to withstand a direct hit from a jumbo jet and still function effectively an hour or so later. If somehow they did manage the above conventional explosives would mean a massive explosion, shattering glass in the whole area (didn't happen). The melting metal theory falls flat because vast majority of the steel support was in the external beams or a central concrete core. If destruction of the internal supports was enough to bring the building down it just adds weight to the accepted theory that the planes brought them down. Scratch the surface of any of these conspiracies and you can fly a jumbo jet through the holes in them

You keep insinuating that there is some sort of conspiracy, why is it so hard for you to lay out a feasible theory?