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I take it in subbuteo we will now be know as Liverpool/Nottingham Forest/Southampton instead of the traditional Southampton/Sunderland/Stoke?

Of course it will you pleb. We're a premier league team now, sash was league 1. We will sell more of everything.

I still can't work out the thinking behind going for Liverpool colours instead of Southampton. I guess its either: a: A idea born from the marketing department. Red home, white away = red and white - clever eh?! b: This design was cheaper, better margin. Some Umbro factory in china had a load kicking around, all we had to pay for was a few badges sewn on. We will sell them regardless. c: Cortese likes pinstripes - we get pinstripes d: A deliberate attempt to distance ourselves from the past. A new Southampton etc Either way it's not a big deal. I just think it's pointless and odd. History and tradition is a part of football IMO and adds value to the club's brand. If Man Utd wheeled out a red and white striped shirt you would think WTF. It's no different for us.

We're in the Prem. The club could stitch together some old sacks and drag them through dog dirt. They would still sell shed loads if they plonk the SFC badge on and call it the official shirt.

To be fair we do have precious little Prem experience, could be in for a spanking.

He looks like he's holding in a sh!t.

Jay Rod looks bored to tears in his pic.

If a bookmaker is trying to get us to bet on Reading to stay up I think it's fair to say they think they will go down.

You think a plain red kit with pin stripes is original and imaginative! Blimey. At least in the 80's when we ditched the traditional stripes the kits were a bit different, and they stayed in the Saints colours. Plonking a Saints badge on a Liverpool shirt is just lazy. Probably just the cheapest option available.

Just because someone is of the opinion that something is sh!t doesn't mean they are worked up. Just an opinion.

I don't see how thinking the kit is sh!te effects what happens next season.

No, but it's the famous red and white stripes of Southampton. At least the kits of the 80's, though a bit different, still had the red and white with black which you associate with SFC.

As opposed to sticking the club badge on a generic, dull, mass produced sh!te that has none of the club's identity at all.

They will shift thousands regardless of how sh!t it is.

Yeah, because a Premier League club selling more shirts than a Championship one would be a real surprise.

It reminds me of when I had to get a kit for my local youth club team. Had a range of bog standard designs to choose from and shoved a sponsor on the front. No doubt the club just found the cheapest design and ordered a container full. It's all about the margin, they know the mugs will buy them.

Sh!t kit.

She only walked like that because the previous episode I smashed her ass in.

There is no way that pin-stripe sh!te is our new kit, looks more like a Liverpool strip.

It is greed, if someone is a higher rate tax payer they have more than enough money. Like I said, greed is the accepted norm in today's society, and I include myself in that. I earn a higher than average salary but don't like not having a pay rise in the last couple of years.

Whilst I despise scrongers I don't think it's anywhere near just their problem, the problem is just greed. You have people on 40K a year in uproar at the suggestion that they don't receive child benefit handouts. Doctors due an absolute fortune in pensions who cry like babies at the idea it could be cut. Business who moan and threaten to move abroad rather than pay the amount of tax needed. It goes from the benefit cheats at the bottom to the bankers and big business at the top. Greed is just the accepted norm in today's world.

The sticking point will still be the players wages. I can see the PFA digging their heels in over this, it sets a dangerous precedent if their members are blackmailed into losing money they are legally entitled to, especially when there are plenty of parachute payments due further down the line. I wonder if one outcome could be for the PFA, FL and PL to arrange for the players to be paid direct with the parachute money and become free agents, with pompey forced to accept not having the parachutes as a condition of getting their golden share?

It is sh!t customer service. "For a student discount customer must provide valid student ID at the time of purchase" is pretty crystal clear instructions.

The idea that the Polish are in some way better workers is nonsense, their unemployment rate is higher than ours. I expect it's safe to say people who travel hundreds of miles from extreme poverty tend to work harder, that's obvious. I expect someone somwhere in the World could do you job better for a fraction of the wage as well.

It is a tough one, I hate scroungers but there also people in genuine need. The best way has to be to focus on making lower paid jobs worthwhile. The universal benefits and lowering tax for the low paid is a good start. There should also be help with child care/travel subsidies etc for those in work as well.