sotonjoe

If they want to shift more shirts they need to get fan representatives onboard from the sorts of people who wouldn't usually wear replica shirts. I'm sure Turkish could make some helpful suggestions about how to make it look a lot more urban and suitable for your average geezer. Perhaps they could take the club crest and make it so that you could attach or detach it on a whim using a button.

Brilliant.

At 3:09pm DellDays announced his resignation from the Middlesbrough away trip on another thread because a friend dropped out. It's tough to keep up with but fascinating nonetheless.

Where was it?

No he's not. He's pretending.

No worries.

I think it's pretty good to be fair.

DellDays has no intention of going to this game. It's all a complex plan to try and avoid the wrath of the Souper Fans. I'd have thought he'd have the balls to just come out but it turns out he hasn't.

I am going actually.

Brilliant DellDays, well done on starting another thread about who is going to Middlesbrough.

Can't you use Google? I'm not your copy and pasting *****.

Not woosh, it was just a stupid comparison. What is the link between not going to an away game at the other end of the country and not going to a home game? Surely the comparison should be made with Coventry next week

Is this another thread about Middlesbrough tickets?

It has nothing to do with whether I'm going or not. It's a decent turnout.

I think it's pretty good to be fair.

If we had a choice between a soulless out of town stadium like the Madejski (which isn't in walking distance of the town centre pubs etc) or staying in St Marys (even if wasn't expanded), I'd happily stay at St Marys forever.

So that's about 1200 unsold then.

I expect This Charming Man was.

Entirely true. I'll agree with that one!

When / if questioned they would inevitably argue that increases are needed to help us achieve what we want to achieve won't they? I'm prepare to accept another £100 on the price of my season ticket without really flinching, but I think I'll start wondering "Why" if it goes up by considerably more than that.

Such as?

What region? I think you need to look that word up in a dictionary.

What region? Reading is 45miles away. The only reason people can try and suggest that they are a 'local' club is because there are so few professional clubs of any significant stature in the South of England. I don't see any reason why people in Southampton should think that Reading's promotion is indirectly beneficial to us which is what you're implying.

Good comparison of those charts. FWIW though, I can't see the club not seeing promotion as an opportunity to raise ticket prices, even though you're quite right that we're already in the ballpark when it comes to average prices. There's clearly a difference between northern and southern / london prices and I can't see us pricing our tickets down at the very bottom end.Perhaps we could hope for adult prices in the different stands falling in the £30-35 category, but I'm not sure how realistic that is at all.

According to Soccernet, these are the average attendances by club for this season in the Premiership. I googled this purely to get a vague idea of what was the maximum crowd each club could accommodate in order to get some idea about how competitive we would be attendance wise. There's obviously quite a gap between Stoke on about 27k in 11th place and Everton on nearly 33k in 10th and I personally think that we'll be topping Stoke's average attendance. For me, being able to accommodate crowds which could see us averaging the 11th highest crowds in the Prem over a season is perfectly satisfactory in the short term. If our first goal is try and stabilise ourselves as a Prem club, then I don't think that in terms of attendances and the associated match day revenue we will be struggling. I'm sure that once we think we're secure in the Prem, then we will want to increase capacity. [TABLE=class: tablehead, width: 0] [TR=class: colhead, bgcolor: transparent] [TD] [/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #FFFFFF]Team[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #FFFFFF]Total[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #FFFFFF]Average[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: oddrow team-600-360, bgcolor: #FFFFFF] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: right]1[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: left]Manchester United[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: right]1,281,340[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: right]75,372[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: evenrow team-600-359, bgcolor: transparent] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right]2[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: left]Arsenal[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right]1,019,803[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right]59,988[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: oddrow team-600-361, bgcolor: #FFFFFF] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: right]3[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: left]Newcastle United[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: right]844,226[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: right]49,660[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: evenrow team-600-382, bgcolor: transparent] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right]4[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: left]Manchester City[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right]798,592[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right]46,976[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: oddrow team-600-364, bgcolor: #FFFFFF] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: right]5[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: left]Liverpool[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: right]716,321[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: right]44,770[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: evenrow team-600-363, bgcolor: transparent] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right]6[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: left]Chelsea[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right]664,113[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right]41,507[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: oddrow team-600-366, bgcolor: #FFFFFF] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: right]7[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: left]Sunderland[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: right]655,593[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: right]38,564[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: evenrow team-600-367, bgcolor: transparent] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right]8[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: left]Tottenham Hotspur[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right]612,447[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right]36,026[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: oddrow team-600-362, bgcolor: #FFFFFF] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: right]9[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: left]Aston Villa[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: right]542,762[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: right]33,922[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: evenrow team-600-368, bgcolor: transparent] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right]10[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: left]Everton[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right]559,931[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right]32,937[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: oddrow team-600-336, bgcolor: #FFFFFF] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: right]11[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: left]Stoke City[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: right]435,499[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: right]27,218[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: evenrow team-600-381, bgcolor: transparent] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right]12[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: left]Norwich City[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right]451,887[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right]26,581[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: oddrow team-600-380, bgcolor: #FFFFFF] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: right]13[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: left]Wolverhampton Wanderers[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: right]437,925[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: right]25,760[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: evenrow team-600-370, bgcolor: transparent] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right]14[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: left]Fulham[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right]429,204[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right]25,247[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: oddrow team-600-383, bgcolor: #FFFFFF] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: right]15[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: left]West Bromwich Albion[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: right]418,823[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: right]24,636[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: evenrow team-600-358, bgcolor: transparent] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right]16[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: left]Bolton Wanderers[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right]376,317[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right]23,519[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: oddrow team-600-365, bgcolor: #FFFFFF] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: right]17[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: left]Blackburn Rovers[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: right]379,112[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: right]22,300[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: evenrow team-600-318, bgcolor: transparent] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right]18[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: left]Swansea City[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right]338,965[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right]19,939[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: oddrow team-600-350, bgcolor: #FFFFFF] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: right]19[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: left]Wigan Athletic[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: right]309,865[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: transparent, align: right]18,227[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: evenrow team-600-334, bgcolor: transparent] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right]20[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: left]Queens Park Rangers[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right]293,273[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F1F1F1, align: right]17,251[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Barclays Premier League - Unofficial Average Attendance: 34,525