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Careful, you can't possibly criticise the Dame, Aintclever will accuse you of being a sexist homophobe - an accusation that really might break the matrix in this case

Aintclever is currently looking for his seventeenth reverse gear and a way that he can come out of this sitting comfortably on his fence once more. My guess is he'll claim he never actually said it was racist, he was just repeating what everyone was saying, like a parrott.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/euro-2020/2021/0715/1235269-four-arrested-in-connection-with-online-racist-abuse/ Looks like one of the arrested is claiming his account was hacked. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-57829067

Ah I see. What you're suggesting is that I'm a sexist homophobe based on absolutely no evidence whatsoever. I should report you to the police for being a racist paedophile.

How on earth is that relevant? Are there geographical boundaries regarding what someone can / can't have an opinion on? Where is the line drawn, should I only give a shit about things in my county? Maybe just my town? Maybe my street? Maybe just my house? Do you live in Manchester? If not, why are you discussing the Rashford mural?

What happened to his nose? X marks the spot?

Yep, this, absolutely 100%. No wait, hang on, don't they put forward arguments in court with the express intention of "winning"... ( [/sarcasm] for whelk's benefit).

Surely quoting a weekly wage that is likely to be more than most people's annual salary has more meaning than quoting £xmillion which is beyond the reach and meaningless to the average football fan?

No one has said that! It has been said the grafitti on the mural wasn't racist. It's also been recognised and agreed unanimously that black England players have received racist abuse on social media. It's also been unanimously agreed that the individuals that have done that are a bunch of mindless morons. You are conflating two seperate issues incorrectly.

The number of high profile fuck ups she has presided over should determine whether she is shit at her job. When it comes to determining shitness in employment terms, the phrase 'balance of probabilities' is used. Given the number of shit shows she has been in charge of, on the balance of probabilities, I'd hazard a guess that she is shit at her job. It's alright, some people are good at what they do, others aren't. You've previously alluded to me not being happy because she is a woman and a lesbian, but that's got nothing to do with determining whether she is good at her job or not, the results speak for themselves. Perhaps, though, it is something that is influencing her not being fired - is positive discrimination better than negative discrimination?

As per the statement aintclever linked to, they stated it was 'reported' as racially aggravated damage. They haven't, to my knowledge, declared what they are investigating and how they are treating it. If only they would investigate grafitti in my local area with such gusto

Again, that's just something you've made up to confirm your bias. Show any statement from GMP that shows that....

Very cunning these closet racists, secretly writing the racist stuff in invisible ink so only they can see it. They do this because they really, really, really don't want to draw any attention to the racist stuff and don't want any attention.

Nowhere in your statement from GMP does it state the police think it was racially aggravated. It states they were called to 'reports' of racially aggravated damage, not that they think that is what it was. Similarly, they could be called to 'reports' of a murder, but when they get there the 'dead' person gets up like Jesus on Easter Monday. You are making assumptions based on your own prejudices...

So is it just your bog standard, non-racist, abuse / bullying then and is that more acceptable because skin colour isn't mentioned?

I'm not sure 'innocent until proven otherwise' applies if you are shit at your job - it's not a criminal case is it?

In the Euro2020 thread!!

2012 Portsmouth football club. 2020 Portsmouth football club ltd They may have changed the name but the purpose is still the same...

No surprise that you missed the actual point, but I'll spell it out for you.... In 1992 / 1994 there was no such thing as Twitter / social media. Whilst our football failures were undoubtedly subject to millions of incidences of abuse in pubs and bars up and down the country, the footballers themselves were largely shielded from the torrent of abuse because the general public had no mouthpiece. They were of course subjected to plenty of abuse (racist or otherwise) in the national press, who did have a mouthpiece. Like I've already pointed out, you seem wholely accepting of the personal abuse and bullying that Taylor received at the hands of the press, presumably because he was white. Imagine if the same thing had happened to Paul Ince...

Huge leap as usual. I guess some of us view the racism problem from different angles. Take Soggy for example who won't accept anything less than the total eradication of every single racist on the planet. Then, and only then, will the problem be solved. Some of us are more realistic and accept that there will always be racists, some countries even condone racism and equality. For us, the problem is the mouthpiece that is afforded to the people with these abhorrent views and the proliferation of the abuse culture in social media. That is the wider issue that needs to be fixed. Racists, like murderers and rapists are always going to exist, it is a pointless fight to try and eradicate them, but take away their mouth piece and you take away the biggest reason for them to spout their nonsense and achieve the reaction they currently achieve. Nice to know that you condone the abuse that Taylor received though, I'm guessing he's fair game to you because he's white....

Not one, but two watchdogs consider launching a formal investigation of the Dame - I guess we should hang on until they've completed their investigations though before we jump to any conclusions and should definitely not consider there to be any smoke without fire... https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/14/two-police-watchdogs-could-investigate-cressida-dick-over-daniel-morgan-case

Indeed. Sticks and stones.... (before they appear, I know that 'some' of the comments are racist and 'some' of them are abusive and they shouldn't be happening, but barring a radical redesign of social media they aren't going to stop). In the past we used to have just our national press available to throw the insults around!

I marked it in bold, how are you struggling to find it?

Mental Managing to contradict yourself in the same post is a fine art for sure!!

According to the article I linked to, the Met police (the organisation that she is in charge of) already knew this would happen and informed Wembley. Armed with that information, what she (personally) could have done, was ensure there were enough police resources available to police the large number of people who had had a few beers and stop them from illegally forcing their way into Wembley. A novel approach I guess but not beyond the wit of man/woman.